DUST Search - [REQUEST] STUDY NEW AMARR LOGI before releasing it CCP.

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

This i posted it in a GENERAL DISCUSSIONS thread, but i want to make sure more people read it....

With the new improves the AMARR LOGI will have im scared they will be the next OP LOGI/ASSAULT

PLEASE CCP, study the suit well and be careful with what you modify here.

I understand the sidearms slot in every one of them, but also a low powered slot on proto?
I know this is well intended and i would love it if good logis could use this suit, but im thinking here of what dust has the most, TRY HARDS.

With 7 SLOTS, (Same as assaults), more PG and CPU, More equipment slots, 2 AWESOME specialization bonuses and the ONLY drawback being less speed and less stamina makes me think that anyone wanting to go assault WITHOUT using laser weapons might use this suit.

Think of the possibilities.EXMP:

-AR or light weapon of choice, say, MASS DRIVER
-Sidearm of choice

-2 Complex shield EXT
-1 Complex damage mod
- 1 complex kinetic
- 1 complex repair
- 1 armor plate of your choosing.
- 1 armor plate of your choosing or Stamina enhancers.

-Equipment of your election.

-Speedy shield regen.
-Speedy Armor regen (about 12.5 per sec with only 1 complex armor rep)
-MED-High HP (482 total HP with lv 4 passive skills and 2 complex shield extenders, No armor plates included here)
-Decent speed, as per default at complex level kinetic will give a total speed of 7.48 sprinting.
-And they dont even have the disadvantage other logis have from lacking sidearm.

So , i mean IM HAPPY FOR LOGIS, specially amarr ones, but CCP should THINK this well before just buffing them into the next OP suit.

I just hope the speed and stamina are enough to stop assault players into spec'ing into these suits, but one never knows....

I really think the a CPU/PG increase so that you can equip PROTO stuff on the few slots you have is good, Side arms for all versions, good, But extra low slot it pushing it too far.
Remove a slot from the ADV level AMMar Logi and leave Proto Logi at 3-3 slots.

CCP/ please give the suit a GOOD test run before releasing it. thats all.(I dont want the AMARR LOGI to be the next CAL LOGI...)

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Gawen Eadan Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 22	Posted - 2013.07.24 04:55:00 - [31] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: This i posted it in a GENERAL DISCUSSIONS thread, but i want to make sure more people read it.... With the new improves the AMARR LOGI will have im scared they will be the next OP LOGI/ASSAULT PLEASE CCP, study the suit well and be careful with what you modify here. I understand the sidearms slot in every one of them, but also a low powered slot on proto? I know this is well intended and i would love it if good logis could use this suit, but im thinking here of what dust has the most, TRY HARDS. With 7 SLOTS, (Same as assaults), more PG and CPU, More equipment slots, 2 AWESOME specialization bonuses and the ONLY drawback being less speed and less stamina makes me think that anyone wanting to go assault WITHOUT using laser weapons might use this suit. Think of the possibilities.EXMP: -AR or light weapon of choice, say, MASS DRIVER -Sidearm of choice -2 Complex shield EXT -1 Complex damage mod - 1 complex kinetic - 1 complex repair - 1 armor plate of your choosing. - 1 armor plate of your choosing or Stamina enhancers. -Equipment of your election. -Speedy shield regen. -Speedy Armor regen (about 12.5 per sec with only 1 complex armor rep) -MED-High HP (482 total HP with lv 4 passive skills and 2 complex shield extenders, No armor plates included here) -Decent speed, as per default at complex level kinetic will give a total speed of 7.48 sprinting. -And they dont even have the disadvantage other logis have from lacking sidearm. So , i mean IM HAPPY FOR LOGIS, specially amarr ones, but CCP should THINK this well before just buffing them into the next OP suit. I just hope the speed and stamina are enough to stop assault players into spec'ing into these suits, but one never knows.... I really think the a CPU/PG increase so that you can equip PROTO stuff on the few slots you have is good, Side arms for all versions, good, But extra low slot it pushing it too far. Remove a slot from the ADV level AMMar Logi and leave Proto Logi at 3-3 slots. CCP/ please give the suit a GOOD test run before releasing it. thats all.(I dont want the AMARR LOGI to be the next CAL LOGI...) No, simply no. First: If you run all those modules, even if you set your build up with the passive 30% bonus to pg and cpu from skills, you would be sitting at 94PG assuming CCP rounds up the 0.6 left on the 93.6. Alright, case and point, using the lowest optional pg modules you pointed out, you're at 81 before you even hit the weapons on the proto suit. Hope you don't mind basic weapons and no equipment worth mentioning, because at advanced weapons, two of them (GEK-38 and a M209 SMG for example), you hit your PG cap. Second: You'd be sitting at a whopping 482 armor with the 12.5 armor a second, yes, you also have 223 shield and a lower charge time than the Gallente and Minmatar, sure. But you have NO EQUIPMENT AT ADVANCED WEAPONS run basic equipment and basic weapons? Sure, makes you one hell of a battle logi to be doing stock damage while buddy rams his Caldari logi douvolle assualt rifle down your throat with a nanohive to back it up and five complex damage mods with cpu and pg extenders to make them squeeze right in. Third: Not to mention other logi's have between 8-9 slots and the Amar sits at 7and is stripped an equipment slot compared to its brothers in each level as well. There's also the fact of if the math is done right, a Gallente suit logi proto can still surpass an Amar logi proto in its current state in armor reps, rendering its bonus useless, and this update will finally change that, just barely. I ran the Amar logi before the respec and you always hit the PG before the CPU, and you always hit it before anyone else This update will hopefully make it a more reasonable ceiling to the suit. The sidearm at basic is so very welcome, and the extra equipment at advanced its a beautiful compliment to the extended PG, and give the suit a reasonable price point before being effective.
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 399	Posted - 2013.07.24 05:00:00 - [32] - Quote ok, bro. Nice stats there. But let me tell you, just changing a simple complex shield for an enhanced will get you a better weapon. And Assaults using logi dont equip stuff unless they have extra CPU/PG, thats why they are not TRUE logis.... Then again, this is a petition for them to STUDY the suit, im not against the buff of it. so chill will ya... And, btw, id ont know what game you have been playig, but in dust, a TOXIN AR with proficiency 5 still wipes out a lot of stuff :3
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 808	Posted - 2013.07.24 05:11:00 - [33] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I'll use enhanced but not complex, too slow A decent fit is two Complex Reppers and a Complex Plate. You should get about 380ish Armour coupled with your extreme repair rates. Sorry when I say extreme I mean by armour tanker standards.... repping at all is amazing! Im my Amarr logi alt, i use Kinetic cat. / Enhanced Armor plate/ Complex armor rep. have a total of 333 armor + 12.5 rep rate + assault level speed.(7.1 i think) (me being of scout origins i , kind of like the speed) I also use 2 complex shield ext for a total of 266 shields anda GRAND total of 599 ish. Not a lot, but decent for a ''speedish'' A.logi... I'm kind of the opposite I figure as an Armour assault I should be the general pseudo tanker of my squad and be able to walk through heavy gunfire if I have to.... doesn't always work but its sure as hell a lot of fun.


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