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Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.23 22:03:00 -
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I think that much of the current issue with LLAV and LAV murder taxis could be solved with the addition of Stasis Grenades that simply slows down Vehicles.
Let's say a 50-90% decrease in speed.
This way, whenever a fast vehicle moves to engage it has to COMMIT to that engagement. This threat could be neutralized by vehicles being supported by infantry (who screen possible grenade-throwers) and the logistics repping of vehicles cancelling, to a large extent, the effectiveness of the stasis web.
What do you guys think?
(YES, I realize this is a repost) |
RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
198
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Posted - 2013.07.23 22:06:00 -
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I think: 'Death to LLAVs'.Damn things are tougher than old, dried-out leather. If there is ever such a thing as a LMAV that tanks twice as hard I'll probably cry.
On a serious note: Webifiers might be good, but I don't see many people carrying them over Packed AV nades unless they are cheap to fit or they are equipment of some sort (either a gun or mines). |
Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.23 22:15:00 -
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I was just thinking of them being used with dedicated A/V suits that use their main offensive weapon as A/V damage and grenades as secondary. Although an equipment item makes just as much sense as a grenade |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
106
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:20:00 -
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Prox mine variant? |
Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:31:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:Prox mine variant?
While that would work, I was thinking of a grenade that would explode and leave an AOE effect (like the nanohive) in place and any vehicle moving through it would be webbed |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
358
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:00:00 -
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I Could See So many Uses for Stasis Webs as Gear.
Say your Defending the Communications Outpost (Look in the Maps Feedback for a Picture of what it is), and a Scout Spots an Armor Convoy and a Pack of infantry Coming into the base, Plop down a Stasis webifier ( I think that its Equipment form should be like a Nanohive, only with a invisible Bubble), armor rolls through the gates, gets slowed to a Crawl, AV and Snipers ahoy!
Plas One to Stasis Webs as Equipment and Grenades |
Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:36:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:I Could See So many Uses for Stasis Webs as Gear.
Say your Defending the Communications Outpost (Look in the Maps Feedback for a Picture of what it is), and a Scout Spots an Armor Convoy and a Pack of infantry Coming into the base, Plop down a Stasis webifier ( I think that its Equipment form should be like a Nanohive, only with a invisible Bubble), armor rolls through the gates, gets slowed to a Crawl, AV and Snipers ahoy!
Plas One to Stasis Webs as Equipment and Grenades
My thoughts exactly |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
980
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:49:00 -
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no, tanks move slow enough, theres no reason to slow them down more, they already die super easy and fast. |
Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:57:00 -
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ladwar wrote:no, tanks move slow enough, theres no reason to slow them down more, they already die super easy and fast.
But the only time a tank would be close enough to a balanced stasis grenade would be if he strolled up within meters of a trooper. I don't see how it would be that big of a threat to tanks if the range was extremely limited. It would affect LAVs drastically more then tanks, as tanks don't ram people for their primary dps.
If the item were deployable like a nanohive would you still have this objection? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
980
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Posted - 2013.07.26 06:17:00 -
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Gorgoth24Reborn wrote:ladwar wrote:no, tanks move slow enough, theres no reason to slow them down more, they already die super easy and fast. But the only time a tank would be close enough to a balanced stasis grenade would be if he strolled up within meters of a trooper. I don't see how it would be that big of a threat to tanks if the range was extremely limited. It would affect LAVs drastically more then tanks, as tanks don't ram people for their primary dps. If the item were deployable like a nanohive would you still have this objection?
yes, even bigger objection. btw i know how tanks think because i use one and i can get them to run over proxies. a nano hive wouldn't be hard. you have to see how this would work on other then your intended purpose. |
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The World isMine
Defective by Design
11
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Posted - 2013.07.26 06:30:00 -
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Repair tool style webifier cutting the stats of max speed to 50% also cutting acceleration |
Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.26 06:41:00 -
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The World isMine wrote:Repair tool style webifier cutting the stats of max speed to 80%
I don't know if I'm reading you right but are you suggesting a 20% decrease in speed? That seems severely underpowered and incapable of defending yourself from a LAV barreling at you (which would be the primary entry-level purpose)
And how limited would the range be? Make it too low and a tank would annihilate you and an LAV wouldn't slow down fast enough to keep it within range, let alone stop it from running you over. Make it too high and you'd be grabbing people from cover.
On the contrary, an AOE deployable or grenade-based weapon CAN slow you down an enormous amount without being unbalanced. Since the vehicle is moving through it, as long as the AOE is restricted and the vehicle is slowed down instead of instantly stopped, the vehicle would pass through the field in a slow enough manner for you not to get rammed but fast enough to not be perma-crippled. Iinitial grenades would need to be supplemented by an additional grenades if the target had above minimal ehp. |
Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.26 06:44:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Gorgoth24Reborn wrote:ladwar wrote:no, tanks move slow enough, theres no reason to slow them down more, they already die super easy and fast. But the only time a tank would be close enough to a balanced stasis grenade would be if he strolled up within meters of a trooper. I don't see how it would be that big of a threat to tanks if the range was extremely limited. It would affect LAVs drastically more then tanks, as tanks don't ram people for their primary dps. If the item were deployable like a nanohive would you still have this objection? yes, even bigger objection. btw i know how tanks think because i use one and i can get them to run over proxies. a nano hive wouldn't be hard. you have to see how this would work on other then your intended purpose.
Maybe I was unclear but I meant for the deployable object to still function like a grenade, activating upon deployment and then fading after a few seconds. Not working like a land mine.
How would it work other then the intended purpose like described? I must not be seeing it (sorry, it is late here) |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
980
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Posted - 2013.07.26 07:39:00 -
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Gorgoth24Reborn wrote:ladwar wrote:Gorgoth24Reborn wrote:ladwar wrote:no, tanks move slow enough, theres no reason to slow them down more, they already die super easy and fast. But the only time a tank would be close enough to a balanced stasis grenade would be if he strolled up within meters of a trooper. I don't see how it would be that big of a threat to tanks if the range was extremely limited. It would affect LAVs drastically more then tanks, as tanks don't ram people for their primary dps. If the item were deployable like a nanohive would you still have this objection? yes, even bigger objection. btw i know how tanks think because i use one and i can get them to run over proxies. a nano hive wouldn't be hard. you have to see how this would work on other then your intended purpose. Maybe I was unclear but I meant for the deployable object to still function like a grenade, activating upon deployment and then fading after a few seconds. Not working like a land mine. How would it work other then the intended purpose like described? I must not be seeing it (sorry, it is late here)
you never seen me use proxies then |
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