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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.07.23 17:40:00 -
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The new dev blog talked about weapons being too powerful outside of their roles- but assault rifles were never mentioned for this.
I think it's still pretty damn obvious that ARs (plasma weapons!) are too good at long range.
A handheld light plasma weapon can still somehow outrange 20gj blasters mounted on vehicles. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.07.23 17:48:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Face it, ARs are easy mode and they're going to continue to be easy mode because every game needs a mechanic new players can latch onto. They just need to find a way to beef up niche weapons to counter them better.
Whenever niche weapons are powerful enough, players whine for a nerf. Look at laser rifles for example. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.07.23 18:44:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Yep Gallente Weapons (blasters) in EVE hit hard up close and suck from range. For reasons unknown, in DUST, the AR's (Gallente Blasters) are pretty spot on from long ranges.
The weapons should be like this....
Gallente AR - Short Range
Amarr SCR/LR - Long Range
Caldari Rail Rifle - Long Range
Minmitar Combat Rifle - Medium Range And it will most likely be this way, when we get the missing weapons.
When we got scrambler rifles, there was no reason for blaster rifles to stay the way they were. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.07.23 19:09:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:The Breach AR is the true Gallente assault rifle.
AND IT ******* SUCKS!
Now, are assault rifles OP?
No, no they aren't.
Do you have any clue how little damage we do at long range?
I once shot a sniper for 4 seconds at long range... Then he took cover.
We do our job.
Medium range general combat.
Breach is actually pretty damn good if you hipfire and strafe like a ************.
The one place where ARs are where they should be is in CQC- they're outclassed by SMGs, shotguns, knives, and HMGs in CQC, while the breach has a better chance than normal ARs. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.07.23 19:11:00 -
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Kiiran-B wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Cosgar wrote:Face it, ARs are easy mode and they're going to continue to be easy mode because every game needs a mechanic new players can latch onto. They just need to find a way to beef up niche weapons to counter them better. Whenever niche weapons are powerful enough, players whine for a nerf. Look at laser rifles for example. I can't believe people still think the viziam wasn't OP. I grant you it was nerfed into oblivion and it was only the viziam that needed fixed. But c'mon you must agree it needed balancing.
The Viziam's stats were literally wrong, according to a dev. All they needed to do was correct them- not nerf the entire weapon class. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:47:00 -
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:LMAO a ar is suppose to be versatile.
They're supposed to be OK at everything- they're too good at long range right now.
- The tiny scrambler rifle range difference (lasers are meant to have far more range than blasters- which the AR is) is nothing
- Unless laser rifles are in the tiny "sweet spot" range, either ARs will outdamage them anyway, or the extremely steep laser dropoff will turn the laser into a garden hose
- ARs don't overheat
- Due to the map design being in favor of ARs, snipers are forced into either AR range, or an extremely stupid location with a tiny firing window.
- Again- ARs are more reliable than 20GJ blasters. Even with the change of range, you have to be in spitting distance to kill someone with a small blaster. And you wonder why LAV drivers go murder taxi.
- Scratch that- ARs are more reliable than ANY small turrets, save for AV capabilities, which small turrets suck at anyway.
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