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Reaper Skordeman
The Reaper Crew PMC
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:27:00 -
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I bet you're all wondering why, or thinking this is some cry for attention but let me elaborate.
I love DUST 514. I'm no Veteran, I wasn't in the Closed Beta, however I'm no Newberry.
I've been enjoying this game greatly, playing with my Corp. and enjoying the frequent changes even if some a bad. I feel that the game is actually alive and I couldn't wait to become a better part of the community so I joined the forums.
Now that I'm here, all I see is "I hate DUST" "F##k Update X" "I quit this Piece of S##t Game" and so on. What is wrong with you people, not that you're all like this but the majority of people are just crying and crying.
If you don't like this game and hate it so much, uninstall it. Don't cry about it to these forums, or CCP. However, if you have a rational suggestion or feedback share it, but crying about every single feature.. Grow Up.
DUST 514 is the closet thing I've ever seen to a full community controlled game, and I love that. I'm glad we have CCP to make the final calls though, prevents total anarchy. You can't scream that they don't listen just because they ignored your moronic idea, or it's taking time to implement it. They do listen, just look they've started to counter Murder Taxi's and even Assault-Logi's. Not to mention everything else.
If you hate DUST 514, You hate it, that's it, book closed. Personally I treat DUST 514 like High School. Some days I loved it, others I hate it, sometimes I even screamed it wasn't fair. But now that it's no longer there, I miss it.
TL:DR: Grow up and quit bitching. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:30:00 -
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wat good would tht do. ths game would never improve and it would stay the same. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
480
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:31:00 -
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The real TL;DR of this: I'm a fanboy stop showing CCP they suck. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
346
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:35:00 -
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while I sympathize... the negativity must seem daunting..... the CCP hamsters need the forum tears to live... you wouldn't want those hamsters to starve would you?
of course you wouldn't.... just remember.... the QQers are a very vocal minority that provides entertainment for the rest of us whom also appreciate a good tear bath.... its ok... I promise.... most of us feel the way you do.....
but just like we the dung beetle must eat poop .... the forum warrior must cry and rant and cry again....
it is the way of things |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
480
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:37:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:while I sympathize... the negativity must seem daunting..... the CCP hamsters need the forum tears to live... you wouldn't want those hamsters to starve would you? of course you wouldn't.... just remember.... the QQers are a very vocal minority that provides entertainment for the rest of us whom also appreciate a good tear bath.... its ok... I promise.... most of us feel the way you do..... but just like the dung beetle must eat poop .... the forum warrior must cry and rant and cry again.... it is the way of things Dust Uni would know all about crying and eating poop. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2953
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:38:00 -
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This is how every gaming forum is. The ones that aren't are heavily censored by overzealous mods. |
Reaper Skordeman
The Reaper Crew PMC
23
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:43:00 -
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Love it, now I'm labeled as a Fanboy? So be it.
If you read what I said, you'll see I welcome the idea of criticism as it is needed. But why must it be done in such an uncivil manner?
This site has a Feedback and Requests Section, why is General Discussion flooded with such pathetic QQ'ers?
This game needs feedback, but it needs to be done in a civil manner. Kicking and screaming like children in a shopping mall will get you nowhere. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
480
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:57:00 -
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Reaper Skordeman wrote:Love it, now I'm labeled as a Fanboy? So be it.
If you read what I said, you'll see I welcome the idea of criticism as it is needed. But why must it be done in such an uncivil manner?
This site has a Feedback and Requests Section, why is General Discussion flooded with such pathetic QQ'ers?
This game needs feedback, but it needs to be done in a civil manner. Kicking and screaming like children in a shopping mall will get you nowhere. You're confusing me. Honestly - if there's a feedback and request section then why are you trying to replicate it here in GD? GD is.. well, a general discussion, which usually implies peoples opinions. So GD will be as bad/negative as people feel towards the game.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
1052
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:04:00 -
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Reaper Skordeman wrote:I bet you're all wondering why, or thinking this is some cry for attention but let me elaborate.
I love DUST 514. I'm no Veteran, I wasn't in the Closed Beta, however I'm no Newberry.
I've been enjoying this game greatly, playing with my Corp. and enjoying the frequent changes even if some a bad. I feel that the game is actually alive and I couldn't wait to become a better part of the community so I joined the forums.
Now that I'm here, all I see is "I hate DUST" "F##k Update X" "I quit this Piece of S##t Game" and so on. What is wrong with you people, not that you're all like this but the majority of people are just crying and crying.
If you don't like this game and hate it so much, uninstall it. Don't cry about it to these forums, or CCP. However, if you have a rational suggestion or feedback share it, but crying about every single feature.. Grow Up.
DUST 514 is the closet thing I've ever seen to a full community controlled game, and I love that. I'm glad we have CCP to make the final calls though, prevents total anarchy. You can't scream that they don't listen just because they ignored your moronic idea, or it's taking time to implement it. They do listen, just look they've started to counter Murder Taxi's and even Assault-Logi's. Not to mention everything else.
If you hate DUST 514, You hate it, that's it, book closed. Personally I treat DUST 514 like High School. Some days I loved it, others I hate it, sometimes I even screamed it wasn't fair. But now that it's no longer there, I miss it.
TL:DR: Grow up and quit bitching.
Partially agree.
What I found initially troubling about the forums was indeed the apparent intimacy with which everyone seemed to know each other. However that was back in Closed Beta; the population has opened up by now. But still, there is a sense that the big threads are made by an exclusive sect of people who many listen to.
It's daunting, therefore, for a newbie to try get on the forum, especially now, when they're most needed. Fresh opinions, we need them. And yet, these opinions run screaming when they open the first page of general discussion and find... Well, bluntly, a pile of kitten, with the odd good thread or post.
I think no forum community is complete without its trolls, but to the point where new players rarely try express themselves? Kinda sad. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
675
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:07:00 -
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Quote: just look they've started to counter Murder Taxi's and even Assault-Logi's.
Murder Taxis has been a problem for 6 months, Logi-caldari OP has been a problem from the beginning of Uprising...
It takes CCP an average of 3 months to fix GAME BREAKING PROBLEMS... and you "wonder" why the Forums are so nasty off all the time ? |
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RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
174
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:14:00 -
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To understand the bitterness of some you have to know the history of the game.
Youtube some of the trailers and concept videos. Look back over the feedback that was provided during closed beta. People have been giving constructive feedback and ideas for quite a long time. A lot of those same people are tired of what they perceive as CCP wilfully ignoring that wealth of feedback for apparently no good reason.
An example: Fused Locus Grenades Initially an AUR only item, truly pay to win. People complained this was unfair. CCP have since released ISK versions. Then people realised they were being used almost exclusively due to the ability to throw down huge amounts of instant damage, literally at peoples feet (much like a Core Flaylock). People again complained, and rightly so, that this was not good for gameplay. CCP respond that they agree..... then proceed to offer a 50% discount on the very same AUR items. As I understand it, though someone correct me if I'm wrong, the AUR items are still "better" than the ISK-only variant.
I get where you're coming from but it comes across as ignorant of the issues. Yes, most of us here are still here because we want the game to succeed and live up to the massive potential that we see in it. But at the same time, sometimes you have to call a spade a spade whether you want to hear it or not. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
677
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:28:00 -
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Reaper Skordeman wrote:I bet you're all wondering why, or thinking this is some cry for attention but let me elaborate.
I love DUST 514. I'm no Veteran, I wasn't in the Closed Beta, however I'm no Newberry.
I've been enjoying this game greatly, playing with my Corp. and enjoying the frequent changes even if some a bad. I feel that the game is actually alive and I couldn't wait to become a better part of the community so I joined the forums.
Now that I'm here, all I see is "I hate DUST" "F##k Update X" "I quit this Piece of S##t Game" and so on. What is wrong with you people, not that you're all like this but the majority of people are just crying and crying.
If you don't like this game and hate it so much, uninstall it. Don't cry about it to these forums, or CCP. However, if you have a rational suggestion or feedback share it, but crying about every single feature.. Grow Up.
DUST 514 is the closet thing I've ever seen to a full community controlled game, and I love that. I'm glad we have CCP to make the final calls though, prevents total anarchy. You can't scream that they don't listen just because they ignored your moronic idea, or it's taking time to implement it. They do listen, just look they've started to counter Murder Taxi's and even Assault-Logi's. Not to mention everything else.
If you hate DUST 514, You hate it, that's it, book closed. Personally I treat DUST 514 like High School. Some days I loved it, others I hate it, sometimes I even screamed it wasn't fair. But now that it's no longer there, I miss it.
TL:DR: Grow up and quit bitching.
You post actually proves that you dont know that much about this game even if you arent a "newberry". You say CCP listens to the players? Rarely if even do they actually follow through with their comments they make when they post on someone suggestion (which is rare). Some of the things the community worked really hard to remove (contact nades) have now come back because CCP says screw the playerbase we want contact nades......and we will make they super powerful. By and large CCP ignored the FPS gamers who were truly skilled and continue to push for a mediocre (at best) shooter that has a super long grind time to obtain anything of worth. |
Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
97
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:02:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:This is how every gaming forum is. The ones that aren't are heavily censored by overzealous mods.
exactly. op; quit bitching about people bitching as it makes you an even bigger *****. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
975
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:44:00 -
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Reaper Skordeman wrote:I bet you're all wondering why, or thinking this is some cry for attention but let me elaborate.
I love DUST 514. I'm no Veteran, I wasn't in the Closed Beta, however I'm no Newberry.
I've been enjoying this game greatly, playing with my Corp. and enjoying the frequent changes even if some a bad. I feel that the game is actually alive and I couldn't wait to become a better part of the community so I joined the forums.
Now that I'm here, all I see is "I hate DUST" "F##k Update X" "I quit this Piece of S##t Game" and so on. What is wrong with you people, not that you're all like this but the majority of people are just crying and crying.
If you don't like this game and hate it so much, uninstall it. Don't cry about it to these forums, or CCP. However, if you have a rational suggestion or feedback share it, but crying about every single feature.. Grow Up.
DUST 514 is the closet thing I've ever seen to a full community controlled game, and I love that. I'm glad we have CCP to make the final calls though, prevents total anarchy. You can't scream that they don't listen just because they ignored your moronic idea, or it's taking time to implement it. They do listen, just look they've started to counter Murder Taxi's and even Assault-Logi's. Not to mention everything else.
If you hate DUST 514, You hate it, that's it, book closed. Personally I treat DUST 514 like High School. Some days I loved it, others I hate it, sometimes I even screamed it wasn't fair. But now that it's no longer there, I miss it.
TL:DR: Grow up and quit bitching.
People are giving legit criticism about the game because they want it to improve. The game you love happens to be a train wreck from nearly every angle and requires that kind of criticism.
Grow up and learn how to deal with it? |
BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse
16
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:47:00 -
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REQUEST
unlike button
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
364
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:49:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:while I sympathize... the negativity must seem daunting..... the CCP hamsters need the forum tears to live... you wouldn't want those hamsters to starve would you? of course you wouldn't.... just remember.... the QQers are a very vocal minority that provides entertainment for the rest of us whom also appreciate a good tear bath.... its ok... I promise.... most of us feel the way you do..... but just like the dung beetle must eat poop .... the forum warrior must cry and rant and cry again.... it is the way of things Dust Uni would know all about crying and eating poop.
heres one of the forums prize winning QQers right here
notice how much he has in common with a prize pig....
squeals a lot
likes to sling mud
thick fatty skin yet pink and tender to the touch
very salty
can usually be found rolling around in the dirt with all his pig friends |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5379
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:50:00 -
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Reaper Skordeman wrote: TL:DR: Grow up and quit bitching.
Because if you aren't shoving your nose up CCPs *******, you're bitching
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GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:51:00 -
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I demand a respec! |
Ynned Ivanova
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:26:00 -
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I'm afraid it's a long time problem. You see, there's an offshoot of the gamer family tree, that will remain nameless. These people are egotists, and constantly wander from online game to online game.
They come to the game(as early as possible) with a mental image of what they think the game is and what it should evolve into and anything that detracts from that image is trolled into submission.
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Onesimus Tarsus
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
623
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:43:00 -
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Ynned Ivanova wrote:I'm afraid it's a long time problem. You see, there's an offshoot of the gamer family tree, that will remain nameless. These people are egotists, and constantly wander from online game to online game.
They come to the game(as early as possible) with a mental image of what they think the game is and what it should evolve into and anything that detracts from that image is trolled into submission.
Heck, that's a tight description for a nameless faction. Why don't you just go ahead and name them? |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3440
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:47:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:wat good would tht do. ths game would never improve and it would stay the same.
People said the same thing about Eve.
"Eve will get ROFLOL stomped by EA's Earth & Beyond." "Eve will die." "CCP takes too long." "WoW is better than this ****." etc. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
365
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:48:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Ynned Ivanova wrote:I'm afraid it's a long time problem. You see, there's an offshoot of the gamer family tree, that will remain nameless. These people are egotists, and constantly wander from online game to online game.
They come to the game(as early as possible) with a mental image of what they think the game is and what it should evolve into and anything that detracts from that image is trolled into submission.
Heck, that's a tight description for a nameless faction. Why don't you just go ahead and name them?
so basicly if the game is "imperfect" they try to beat it into obscurity with forum trolling.....
that plan seems ... I don't know... "imperfect" to me....and it doesn't seem to gain these nameless D-bags much of anything....
but hey the human experience is "imperfect" at best and we will never know the motivations of individuals I suppose... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5382
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:51:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:People said the same thing about Eve.
"Eve will get ROFLOL stomped by EA's Earth & Beyond." "Eve will die." "CCP takes too long." "WoW is better than this ****." etc. Except that EVE is on the PC and grew at a time where no one really knew or cared about games like that.
Now, information is everywhere, all the time. Games are crisp and strongly advertised, and built by huge teams of dedicated professionals.
Then there's DUST
An indy game that isn't, built by a tiny group, continuously bashed in both the public eye, and the eyes of its own closed beta vets. It's a game with subpar graphics, constant bugs both new and old, a pay to play scheme that's so strongly pushed it makes you want to fall over, a skill system that's a hollow skeleton of the skill system from a game that shares virtually nothing with it.
DUST as it is, is nothing more than a dream that you can watch through your Nintendo. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
378
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:06:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:The real TL;DR of this: I'm a fanboy stop showing CCP they suck.
HA, coming from a guy who made threads threatening to quit but still returns to the forums and still plays. Confused much? Drama queen? Softer than custard? Oh absolutely |
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