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Zekain Kade
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:44:00 -
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The logi is getting nerfed in the next update, and assault will probably get nerfed some time in the updates after that. So here i am, stuck at the cal proto basic frame, currently sitting on 700k un used sp. Do I continue to save up for the assault suit , or do I throw my points into a heavy suit, and forge?
But wait, the forge is probably going to be nerfed too...
What about swarms? With the armor rep nerf inbound, swarms might be nerffed to compensate.
I know ccp is trying to avoid power creeping. But by doing so, they are power dropping instead. Everything just keeps getting weaker, and weaker.
What the hell do I do? Which road leads to a bridge, and which one leads to a hole? There is no stability. I can't invest months of work into something that'll just be rendered useless in the next patch. You cannot build a stable community by doing this, its crazy. |
![Xocoyol Zaraoul Xocoyol Zaraoul](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
853
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:45:00 -
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Play what seems conceptually "cool" to you, it's what I do, and there is more fun in it.
I refuse to do anything that is not conceptually "cool." |
![Ansiiis The Trustworthy Ansiiis The Trustworthy](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:46:00 -
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Don't you dare say that the Caldari Logi wasn't OP. It was. |
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:48:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Don't you dare say that the Caldari Logi wasn't OP. It was.
Guess you've never used flux grenades or the scrambler rifle. |
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Viktor Zokas
187. League of Infamy
58
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:50:00 -
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If you put your faith and loyalty towards the Amarr Empire. You will be rewarded. |
![DRDEEZE TWO POINTO DRDEEZE TWO POINTO](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
DRDEEZE TWO POINTO
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:51:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Don't you dare say that the Caldari Logi wasn't OP. It was. Guess you've never used flux grenades or the scrambler rifle.
You should know I should not have to change my weapons for one op your just mad that you have 2 less shield now. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
856
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:51:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Guess you've never used flux grenades or the scrambler rifle.
Flux grenades plus an over-a-thousand-dps Burst HMG equals hilarity. In less then three seconds, an entire squad of logies go poof. |
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
688
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:53:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:The logi is getting nerfed in the next update, and assault will probably get nerfed some time in the updates after that. So here i am, stuck at the cal proto basic frame, currently sitting on 700k un used sp. Do I continue to save up for the assault suit , or do I throw my points into a heavy suit, and forge?
But wait, the forge is probably going to be nerfed too...
What about swarms? With the armor rep nerf inbound, swarms might be nerffed to compensate.
Drop Ships will never get any love, so there's no point in going that direction...
I know ccp is trying to avoid power creeping. But by doing so, they are power dropping instead. Everything just keeps getting weaker, and weaker.
What the hell do I do? Which road leads to a bridge, and which one leads to a hole? There is no stability. I can't invest months of work into something that'll just be rendered useless in the next patch. You cannot build a stable community by doing this, its crazy.
Try to stay positive. We need more optimism. You know as well as I do that balancing is difficult especially with lower numbers. The suits are not useless and will be continuously tweaked. Don't get all down and out because it will get better with time. All of our expansions have made the game better and will probably continue to do so. Take a break and do something else for a while. It DOES help, some. Patients is a virtue and will be rewarded in the long run. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:55:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Take a break and do something else for a while. It DOES help, some.
It helps a lot, almost everyone else from closed beta seems to be grumptards (To be fair, I can see why), and I personally am a chill little buttercup after taking a several month break. |
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Aythadis Smith
The Generals EoN.
90
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:57:00 -
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Be a Logi and sit back. Fight at range and learn to "skirmish" your targets |
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ZDub 303
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:58:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:What the hell do I do? Which road leads to a bridge, and which one leads to a hole? There is no stability. I can't invest months of work into something that'll just be rendered useless in the next patch. You cannot build a stable community by doing this, its crazy.
Meaningful investment of SP is an illusion, unless you can predict the future. Its unfortunate... you have to make choices and live with the consequences of CCPs nerf hammer.
Best thing you can do is spec into whatever suits you and hope to god somewhere down the line CCP has enough foresight to offer reallocations in future updates. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:00:00 -
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If you want to avoid "pain" consider only speccing into Advanced material in multiple things for versatility instead of just one or two things at proto, and only go level five for things you know are universal like Core Upgrades, Electronics, Assault Rifle, Shield Extenders, Armor Plating, etc. |
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OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
204
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:04:00 -
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My best advice is go prototype minmatar scout shotgun it's so overpowered at proto level, it's got about a maximum of 343 shields an you can put a complex armor mod on it for maybe a total of 150 armor if your lucky, then put a enhanced CPU chip on it to fix your shotgun to it, but you wont have enough CPU for grenades or your equipment slot .
But dont worry the hit detection on the shotgun is beast , you ll kill everyone before you need more ammo so it doesn't matter that a nano hive won't fit your roadrunner suit will get you to a supply depot in plenty Of time just don't jump or sprint they tend to run out of stamina easily since 1.2 |
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:14:00 -
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DRDEEZE TWO POINTO wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Don't you dare say that the Caldari Logi wasn't OP. It was. Guess you've never used flux grenades or the scrambler rifle. You should know I should not have to change my weapons for one op your just mad that you have 2 less shield now. Flux grenades require grenade skill 1 sorry you're unwilling to create a dropsuit with flux grenades for when you see cal logis on the other team. I currently run the adv version with 486 shields and I destroy people in protosuits including other cal logis because of my individual skill. After the nerf when I get proto I will get 588 shields and the regulators I use will be even better.
I actually like the nerf because when I continue to destroy scrubs they can't blame the suit. |
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Duck Drahko
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:21:00 -
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Get into dropships, you will be feared by everyone.
But seriously, this isn't a puzzle game. There is no best way to skill. Pick what you want to play and stick with it. Then when it eventually becomes FOTM, you'll have a leg up on everybody who first has to hurriedly spec into it... |
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Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
357
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:46:00 -
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Don't spec into amarr..
it will get nerfed =/ either that or im a good player ? |
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Xender17
Intrepidus XI EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:50:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Play what seems conceptually "cool" to you, it's what I do, and there is more fun in it.
I refuse to do anything that is not conceptually "cool." Running over players isn't cool, bro. |
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:50:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:The logi is getting nerfed in the next update, and assault will probably get nerfed some time in the updates after that. So here i am, stuck at the cal proto basic frame, currently sitting on 700k un used sp. Do I continue to save up for the assault suit , or do I throw my points into a heavy suit, and forge?
But wait, the forge is probably going to be nerfed too...
What about swarms? With the armor rep nerf inbound, swarms might be nerffed to compensate.
Drop Ships will never get any love, so there's no point in going that direction...
I know ccp is trying to avoid power creeping. But by doing so, they are power dropping instead. Everything just keeps getting weaker, and weaker.
What the hell do I do? Which road leads to a bridge, and which one leads to a hole? There is no stability. I can't invest months of work into something that'll just be rendered useless in the next patch. You cannot build a stable community by doing this, its crazy.
Your performance has little to do with your suit. I find that I die an equal number of times in a proto suit to a militia suit. It is simply ALL about your skills and placement... and about 5-10% related to your equipment... |
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:54:00 -
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DRDEEZE TWO POINTO wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Don't you dare say that the Caldari Logi wasn't OP. It was. Guess you've never used flux grenades or the scrambler rifle. You should know I should not have to change my weapons for one op your just mad that you have 2 less shield now.
We shouldn't be punished cause some blueberry is too lazy to counter us. |
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:55:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Don't you dare say that the Caldari Logi wasn't OP. It was. Guess you've never used flux grenades or the scrambler rifle.
dude i used both and that suit is still op |
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
309
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:55:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:The logi is getting nerfed in the next update, and assault will probably get nerfed some time in the updates after that. So here i am, stuck at the cal proto basic frame, currently sitting on 700k un used sp. Do I continue to save up for the assault suit , or do I throw my points into a heavy suit, and forge?
But wait, the forge is probably going to be nerfed too...
What about swarms? With the armor rep nerf inbound, swarms might be nerffed to compensate.
Drop Ships will never get any love, so there's no point in going that direction...
I know ccp is trying to avoid power creeping. But by doing so, they are power dropping instead. Everything just keeps getting weaker, and weaker.
What the hell do I do? Which road leads to a bridge, and which one leads to a hole? There is no stability. I can't invest months of work into something that'll just be rendered useless in the next patch. You cannot build a stable community by doing this, its crazy. 700k isn't a lot personally I'd save it, I got 1m and I'm saving it but thats just me |
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Zekain Kade
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:15:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:The logi is getting nerfed in the next update, and assault will probably get nerfed some time in the updates after that. So here i am, stuck at the cal proto basic frame, currently sitting on 700k un used sp. Do I continue to save up for the assault suit , or do I throw my points into a heavy suit, and forge?
But wait, the forge is probably going to be nerfed too...
What about swarms? With the armor rep nerf inbound, swarms might be nerffed to compensate.
Drop Ships will never get any love, so there's no point in going that direction...
I know ccp is trying to avoid power creeping. But by doing so, they are power dropping instead. Everything just keeps getting weaker, and weaker.
What the hell do I do? Which road leads to a bridge, and which one leads to a hole? There is no stability. I can't invest months of work into something that'll just be rendered useless in the next patch. You cannot build a stable community by doing this, its crazy. 700k isn't a lot personally I'd save it, I got 1m and I'm saving it but thats just me that's about all I can do sense there is absolutely no stability in the sand box.
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CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
97
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:18:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Don't you dare say that the Caldari Logi wasn't OP. It was. Guess you've never used flux grenades or the scrambler rifle.
Heh its almost as if - IF the assault rifle doesn't pwn it and the ASSAULT RIFLE ALONE, then it must be OP! |
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
297
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:51:00 -
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So basically, you aren't willing to skill into anything that's not OP and at danger of getting nerfed...got it ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
You could still go logi and actually benefit your TEAM by offering logi services...just saying ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) |
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GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:53:00 -
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Play this game till September 17th and then go play GTA V like the rest of us. |
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Bob Teller
Red Star. EoN.
42
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:53:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:The logi is getting nerfed in the next update, and assault will probably get nerfed some time in the updates after that. So here i am, stuck at the cal proto basic frame, currently sitting on 700k un used sp. Do I continue to save up for the assault suit , or do I throw my points into a heavy suit, and forge?
But wait, the forge is probably going to be nerfed too...
What about swarms? With the armor rep nerf inbound, swarms might be nerffed to compensate.
Drop Ships will never get any love, so there's no point in going that direction...
I know ccp is trying to avoid power creeping. But by doing so, they are power dropping instead. Everything just keeps getting weaker, and weaker.
What the hell do I do? Which road leads to a bridge, and which one leads to a hole? There is no stability. I can't invest months of work into something that'll just be rendered useless in the next patch. You cannot build a stable community by doing this, its crazy. Cry more please,feed me with your tears![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
298
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:03:00 -
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Want to be nerf proof? Skill into the Plasma cannon, knife and armor tanking suits. You'll be safe, at least for a while.
Alternatively, skill into Minmatar...because while CCP doesn't openly admit it, they secretly love the duct tape race ![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png) |
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GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:09:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Want to be nerf proof? Skill into the Plasma cannon, knife and armor tanking suits. You'll be safe, at least for a while. Alternatively, skill into Minmatar...because while CCP doesn't openly admit it, they secretly love the duct tape race ![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png)
Humm, kinda how Zipper loved and catered to S.V.E.R. imagine that. |
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Viktor Zokas
187. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:12:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Don't spec into amarr..
it will get nerfed =/ either that or im a good player ?
The Might of God cannot be nerfed. |
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