DUST Search - Armor Mod Request: Energized Plating

Meeko Fent wrote:

Arx Ardashir wrote:

The Cabalist wrote:

Proposed armor mod to help even the field for armor tanking infantry.

Energized armor plate.

Basic-advanced-prototype

33 armor - 66 armor - 99 armor
-10% shield - -15% shield - -20% shield
high slot.
??Cpu ??PG

Latest from Gallente's Armor research labs. Using high temperature super conductive layers over thermal dampening nano foam ceramic plates creates a thin layer of polarized ions. This layer of ions randomIzes the magnetic field around the infantryman granting highly improved damage absorption while causing a powerful disruption of shields.

Price accordingly.

Taking hp away to add hp. Two steps forwards, one step back. Though it's close to 2 steps back because -20% shields is a lot.

Without resistances for dropsuits in this game to make single tanking (as opposed to dual tanking) superior, taking hp away from one side just to add a bit to another doesn't do a whole lot except pretty much waste a module slot + cpu/pg.

We'd need resistances before this would come close to being useful.

If your armor tanking, why do you care about shields? If your armor tanking with shield extenders, you doing it wrong. Put damage mods there.

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The Cabalist Not Guilty EoN. 11	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:21:00 - [1] - Quote Proposed armor mod to help even the field for armor tanking infantry. Energized armor plate. Basic-advanced-prototype 33 armor - 66 armor - 99 armor -10% shield - -15% shield - -20% shield high slot. ??Cpu ??PG Latest from Gallente's Armor research labs. Using high temperature super conductive layers over thermal dampening nano foam ceramic plates creates a thin layer of polarized ions. This layer of ions randomIzes the magnetic field around the infantryman granting highly improved damage absorption while causing a powerful disruption of shields. Price accordingly. Also proposed change to Reactive Armor. Increase armor regeneration depending on a percentage of unused PG. 10% 15% and 20% perhaps.
DRDEEZE TWO POINTO Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 44	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:26:00 - [2] - Quote I like it.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 329	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:39:00 - [3] - Quote Plas One. Shields get 4 modules. Armor gets 3 useful mods, cause reactive plates don't really seem helpful.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1130	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:40:00 - [4] - Quote Very interesting request. However... energized plating is damage resist on vehicles. In the interest of keeping things organized I don't think we should reuse the name. Charged Plating Magnetized Plating etc etc... but anyways.. interesting idea.
DRDEEZE TWO POINTO Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 44	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:57:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah but since they take have a penalty against shield they should have no movement penalty.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 236	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:58:00 - [6] - Quote Change the kab name to Rodan Shipyards before the trolls come. Trust me. Also, slightly raise the HP values, and raise each shield reduction by 5%-+ Otherwise, good idea. Peace, Aizen
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 958	Posted - 2013.07.22 05:23:00 - [7] - Quote no, bad idea go away.
IrishWebster Molon Labe. League of Infamy 55	Posted - 2013.07.22 05:50:00 - [8] - Quote I LOVE this idea, although I think the shield penalty shouldn't be so high. I'd say a movement penalty of 2%, 3% and 5% for standard, enhanced and complex modules respectively, and a shield HP penalty of 3%, 5% and 10% respectively, if there has to be one at all. Armor is pretty gimped right now compared to shields in the first place, and removing eHP from armor tanked infantry would be a step in the wrong direction. I like the armor values, but perhaps we could tie in resistances to the plates as well, given that they share a name with the vehicle plates that do the same thing. And geez, can we get armor-friendly high slots? For EVE's sake. Ugh.
DRDEEZE TWO POINTO Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 44	Posted - 2013.07.22 05:55:00 - [9] - Quote ladwar wrote: no, bad idea go away. Screw off cheese fart
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 136	Posted - 2013.07.22 06:17:00 - [10] - Quote The Cabalist wrote: Proposed armor mod to help even the field for armor tanking infantry. Energized armor plate. Basic-advanced-prototype 33 armor - 66 armor - 99 armor -10% shield - -15% shield - -20% shield high slot. ??Cpu ??PG Latest from Gallente's Armor research labs. Using high temperature super conductive layers over thermal dampening nano foam ceramic plates creates a thin layer of polarized ions. This layer of ions randomIzes the magnetic field around the infantryman granting highly improved damage absorption while causing a powerful disruption of shields. Price accordingly. Taking hp away to add hp. Two steps forwards, one step back. Though it's close to 2 steps back because -20% shields is a lot. Without resistances for dropsuits in this game to make single tanking (as opposed to dual tanking) superior, taking hp away from one side just to add a bit to another doesn't do a whole lot except pretty much waste a module slot + cpu/pg. We'd need resistances before this would come close to being useful.

Cosgar ParagonX 2930	Posted - 2013.07.22 08:26:00 - [11] - Quote I like the idea, but maybe the numbers should be adjusted a bit. Militia Resistance Plating -1% EM -3% Explosive -5% Kinetic Standard -5% EM -11% Explosive -18% Kinetic Advanced -8% EM -14% Explosive -21% Kinetic Prototype -12% EM -19% Explosive -25% Kinetic
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 334	Posted - 2013.07.22 16:22:00 - [12] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: The Cabalist wrote: Proposed armor mod to help even the field for armor tanking infantry. Energized armor plate. Basic-advanced-prototype 33 armor - 66 armor - 99 armor -10% shield - -15% shield - -20% shield high slot. ??Cpu ??PG Latest from Gallente's Armor research labs. Using high temperature super conductive layers over thermal dampening nano foam ceramic plates creates a thin layer of polarized ions. This layer of ions randomIzes the magnetic field around the infantryman granting highly improved damage absorption while causing a powerful disruption of shields. Price accordingly. Taking hp away to add hp. Two steps forwards, one step back. Though it's close to 2 steps back because -20% shields is a lot. Without resistances for dropsuits in this game to make single tanking (as opposed to dual tanking) superior, taking hp away from one side just to add a bit to another doesn't do a whole lot except pretty much waste a module slot + cpu/pg. We'd need resistances before this would come close to being useful. If your armor tanking, why do you care about shields? If your armor tanking with shield extenders, you doing it wrong. Put damage mods there.
Cosgar ParagonX 2991	Posted - 2013.07.22 16:32:00 - [13] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: The Cabalist wrote: Proposed armor mod to help even the field for armor tanking infantry. Energized armor plate. Basic-advanced-prototype 33 armor - 66 armor - 99 armor -10% shield - -15% shield - -20% shield high slot. ??Cpu ??PG Latest from Gallente's Armor research labs. Using high temperature super conductive layers over thermal dampening nano foam ceramic plates creates a thin layer of polarized ions. This layer of ions randomIzes the magnetic field around the infantryman granting highly improved damage absorption while causing a powerful disruption of shields. Price accordingly. Taking hp away to add hp. Two steps forwards, one step back. Though it's close to 2 steps back because -20% shields is a lot. Without resistances for dropsuits in this game to make single tanking (as opposed to dual tanking) superior, taking hp away from one side just to add a bit to another doesn't do a whole lot except pretty much waste a module slot + cpu/pg. We'd need resistances before this would come close to being useful. If your armor tanking, why do you care about shields? If your armor tanking with shield extenders, you doing it wrong. Put damage mods there. Some people prefer hybrid tanking.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 823	Posted - 2013.07.22 16:42:00 - [14] - Quote The Cabalist wrote: Proposed armor mod to help even the field for armor tanking infantry. Energized armor plate. Basic-advanced-prototype 33 armor - 66 armor - 99 armor -10% shield - -15% shield - -20% shield high slot. ??Cpu ??PG Latest from Gallente's Armor research labs. Using high temperature super conductive layers over thermal dampening nano foam ceramic plates creates a thin layer of polarized ions. This layer of ions randomIzes the magnetic field around the infantryman granting highly improved damage absorption while causing a powerful disruption of shields. Price accordingly. Also proposed change to Reactive Armor. Increase armor regeneration depending on a percentage of unused PG. 10% 15% and 20% perhaps. Lol? Reducing out shield is a terrible idea we need them as a buffer against explosives. In order for these not to remove our buffer they need to give 1.85x more HP than a shield eztender of the same level.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1141	Posted - 2013.07.22 16:42:00 - [15] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: If your armor tanking, why do you care about shields? If your armor tanking with shield extenders, you doing it wrong. Put damage mods there. Lol.. Grenades, mass drivers, and flaylocks love you for saying this.
Vin Mora Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 63	Posted - 2013.07.22 17:38:00 - [16] - Quote The Cabalist wrote: Proposed armor mod to help even the field for armor tanking infantry. Energized armor plate. Basic-advanced-prototype 33 armor - 66 armor - 99 armor -10% shield - -15% shield - -20% shield high slot. ??Cpu ??PG Reduce the shield penalty to a max of 10%, even shield tankers don't pay that much for better shield effects (energizers). Or change the penalty to shield recharge speed.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 319	Posted - 2013.07.22 17:52:00 - [17] - Quote I don't think I understand the idea. You want to give us a minimal boost to hitpoints at the cost of our minimal protection against all the explosions?I thought initially that the idea was giving us extra shield AND armour, which I think would be awesome, call it Ionized Plating and it could give armour and shields. There is one problem still: shield tankers can still benefit more from these modules.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 823	Posted - 2013.07.22 17:56:00 - [18] - Quote RINON114 wrote: I don't think I understand the idea. You want to give us a minimal boost to hitpoints at the cost of our minimal protection against all the explosions?I thought initially that the idea was giving us extra shield AND armour, which I think would be awesome, call it Ionized Plating and it could give armour and shields. There is one problem still: shield tankers can still benefit more from these modules. Not if they are high slots and have high CPU costs, and giving armor modules low CPU costs.


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