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DUST Fiend wrote:

about the forge gun?

O.o

I've used the forge gun for a combined total of over 6 months, and now am just a few days from being able to use my Gaston's. My Ishokune is death incarnate. I snipe snipers with this thing. I lock down entire sections of the map by getting a little high ground. I DESTROY vehicles of all kinds. Dropships don't stand a chance, and only the toughest LLAVs escape me. With AV grenades and an LAV of my own, I rarely face an HAV that is a match for me (solo).

I can put out almost 4000 damage in under 4 seconds, so long as my aim is descent. My controller is actually broken and causes my camera to randomly swing in any given direction, and I STILL decimate with this monster.

And it isn't just my Ishokune. No. CCP went and put in the Militia forgegun, which I used to use quite a lot. It's nowhere near as bad as you might think, and can be fit on a militia heavy DAY ONE. BAM, AV specialist right off the bat, drop some SP for basic AV nades and buy yourself a militia LAV, you'd be amazed how effective you can be. As a former dropship pilot who logged plenty of flight time before and after Uprising, I can safely say that Dropships have no place in the game while forge guns remain as effective as they are against them.

Like Zeus atop Mt Olympus, I rain hell from towers upon infantry and vehicle alike. I decimate all but the most distant or persistent snipers, and laugh at the foolish dropships that dare approach me.

Why is no one crying about the Forge Gun?

Evil

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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5353	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:30:00 - [1] - Quote about the forge gun? O.o I've used the forge gun for a combined total of over 6 months, and now am just a few days from being able to use my Gaston's. My Ishokune is death incarnate. I snipe snipers with this thing. I lock down entire sections of the map by getting a little high ground. I DESTROY vehicles of all kinds. Dropships don't stand a chance, and only the toughest LLAVs escape me. With AV grenades and an LAV of my own, I rarely face an HAV that is a match for me (solo). I can put out almost 4000 damage in under 4 seconds, so long as my aim is descent. My controller is actually broken and causes my camera to randomly swing in any given direction, and I STILL decimate with this monster. And it isn't just my Ishokune. No. CCP went and put in the Militia forgegun, which I used to use quite a lot. It's nowhere near as bad as you might think, and can be fit on a militia heavy DAY ONE. BAM, AV specialist right off the bat, drop some SP for basic AV nades and buy yourself a militia LAV, you'd be amazed how effective you can be. As a former dropship pilot who logged plenty of flight time before and after Uprising, I can safely say that Dropships have no place in the game while forge guns remain as effective as they are against them. Like Zeus atop Mt Olympus, I rain hell from towers upon infantry and vehicle alike. I decimate all but the most distant or persistent snipers, and laugh at the foolish dropships that dare approach me. Why is no one crying about the Forge Gun?
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 533	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:35:00 - [2] - Quote Because everyone is too focused crying about the flaylock pistol.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 488	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:38:00 - [3] - Quote I remember everyone crying about the Forge Gun last week. Where were you?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6372	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:38:00 - [4] - Quote Sorry if I forged you today, was testing out the breach variant.
Adelia Lafayette DUST University Ivy League 117	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:38:00 - [5] - Quote I was sitting on 300k sp and blew it on getting an assualt forge gun recently. my militia suit and fit cost 30k and the thing is a beast. I landed a headshot once..... didn't know you could do that with a forge gun. But ya forge gun is incredibly fun to use if op. you do trade speed having to use a heavy suit but the power you get....
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 150	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:41:00 - [6] - Quote I just got into trying to be a heavy today and I already go 11/3 with a forge gun and a militia heavy suit. I have 9 million SP and wanted to mix it up lol
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2947	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:44:00 - [7] - Quote CPM already hinted a nerf for the FG vs infantry. No worries. The few heavies that use this against infantry I guess are the ones that'll be hurt by this. Anything else people need to nerf the heavies with?
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1370	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:44:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: about the forge gun? O.o I've used the forge gun for a combined total of over 6 months, and now am just a few days from being able to use my Gaston's. My Ishokune is death incarnate. I snipe snipers with this thing. I lock down entire sections of the map by getting a little high ground. I DESTROY vehicles of all kinds. Dropships don't stand a chance, and only the toughest LLAVs escape me. With AV grenades and an LAV of my own, I rarely face an HAV that is a match for me (solo). I can put out almost 4000 damage in under 4 seconds, so long as my aim is descent. My controller is actually broken and causes my camera to randomly swing in any given direction, and I STILL decimate with this monster. And it isn't just my Ishokune. No. CCP went and put in the Militia forgegun, which I used to use quite a lot. It's nowhere near as bad as you might think, and can be fit on a militia heavy DAY ONE. BAM, AV specialist right off the bat, drop some SP for basic AV nades and buy yourself a militia LAV, you'd be amazed how effective you can be. As a former dropship pilot who logged plenty of flight time before and after Uprising, I can safely say that Dropships have no place in the game while forge guns remain as effective as they are against them. Like Zeus atop Mt Olympus, I rain hell from towers upon infantry and vehicle alike. I decimate all but the most distant or persistent snipers, and laugh at the foolish dropships that dare approach me. Why is no one crying about the Forge Gun? I've been using a militia forge gun with my skinweave heavy suit lately and well.... It's awesome lol.
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 165	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:46:00 - [9] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Why is no one crying about the Forge Gun? Apparently the Ishukone Forge Gun is the new Black. You are evil and play the Forum Metagame well. If any other weapon had half the downsides of Forge Guns people would be screaming their heads off about nerfs. Also to answer your question there has been a long effort over the last several months to get Forge Guns nerfed yet again. The latest is the claim they are God mode from towers, when in fact the most effective range is more like the Table Top in Line Harvest or those Jawa bunkers. Both structures that people with TARs, Scrambler Rifles, or Assault Rifles can return fire. Before that in Feedback there had been a strong nerf the forges for all vehicles (that was after getting a win off of Swarms rockets and a loss seeking an AV grenade nerf). In short the forum drive to nerf everything is alive and well with FGs in the cross hairs. The only question that remains is how gullible are the Devs?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 226	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:47:00 - [10] - Quote Shhhhhhhhhhh you fool let them cry godlock op while me and my militia heavy have fun now quit this nonsense and talk about something else

Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1370	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:49:00 - [11] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Shhhhhhhhhhh you fool let them cry godlock op while me and my militia heavy have fun now quit this nonsense and talk about something else Soooooo..... How's the weather?
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 165	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:52:00 - [12] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: CPM already hinted a nerf for the FG vs infantry. No worries. The few heavies that use this against infantry I guess are the ones that'll be hurt by this. Anything else people need to nerf the heavies with? A Dev mentioned them looking at it deep inside a vehicles thread in the Feedback forum. He was careful about how they were looking at it. Although your CPM comment sounds more dire. Knowing CCP they're expert at fck*g everything up.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5356	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:53:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sorry if I forged you today, was testing out the breach variant now that I am leveling 2'ing all my skills. Twasn't you, it was r92cp from DIOS EX. I was blowing up his dropships so he came in with his forge gun and started blowing up my LAVs and stuff. I was taking down one of his mates and I heard my LAV getting exploded. I look back, it goes boom, and I look around for the source. Another boom goes off, then I see him a ways off with the high ground, reloading. I take a shot, miss. I line up another shot, we both go still for a second getting our aim, I fire, kill him, then suddenly I die by his forge gun. It was amazing >_< The cool **** always happens when I DON'T record
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 972	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:55:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: about the forge gun? O.o I've used the forge gun for a combined total of over 6 months, and now am just a few days from being able to use my Gaston's. My Ishokune is death incarnate. I snipe snipers with this thing. I lock down entire sections of the map by getting a little high ground. I DESTROY vehicles of all kinds. Dropships don't stand a chance, and only the toughest LLAVs escape me. With AV grenades and an LAV of my own, I rarely face an HAV that is a match for me (solo). I can put out almost 4000 damage in under 4 seconds, so long as my aim is descent. My controller is actually broken and causes my camera to randomly swing in any given direction, and I STILL decimate with this monster. And it isn't just my Ishokune. No. CCP went and put in the Militia forgegun, which I used to use quite a lot. It's nowhere near as bad as you might think, and can be fit on a militia heavy DAY ONE. BAM, AV specialist right off the bat, drop some SP for basic AV nades and buy yourself a militia LAV, you'd be amazed how effective you can be. As a former dropship pilot who logged plenty of flight time before and after Uprising, I can safely say that Dropships have no place in the game while forge guns remain as effective as they are against them. Like Zeus atop Mt Olympus, I rain hell from towers upon infantry and vehicle alike. I decimate all but the most distant or persistent snipers, and laugh at the foolish dropships that dare approach me. Why is no one crying about the Forge Gun? Because while the Forge Gun is a good weapon and does EXACTLY what it is supposed to do, it also has serious drawbacks. If you put one or two forge guns in key positions on the map, you can lock it down in a big way. If half of your team runs with forge guns, they will get overrun. The truly broken stuff has no drawbacks. Flaylocks have no real downside, LLAV's have no real downside. Hence they get complained about. The Forge? Get close, or get higher and he's dead.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6373	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:57:00 - [15] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: CPM already hinted a nerf for the FG vs infantry. No worries. The few heavies that use this against infantry I guess are the ones that'll be hurt by this. Anything else people need to nerf the heavies with? Please don't spread rumors.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5356	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:58:00 - [16] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Because while the Forge Gun is a good weapon and does EXACTLY what it is supposed to do, it also has serious drawbacks. I guess I just wish it wasn't so easy to kill infantry with it :/ And I wish vehicles stood a little more of a chance against it....because....I slay like....all the things with my Ishokune. It's great fun and makes me laugh. This is a strong indication that it might be a smidge too awesome ;)
Eriknaught Vader's Taco Shack 96	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:58:00 - [17] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: about the forge gun? O.o I've used the forge gun for a combined total of over 6 months, and now am just a few days from being able to use my Gaston's. My Ishokune is death incarnate. I snipe snipers with this thing. I lock down entire sections of the map by getting a little high ground. I DESTROY vehicles of all kinds. Dropships don't stand a chance, and only the toughest LLAVs escape me. With AV grenades and an LAV of my own, I rarely face an HAV that is a match for me (solo). I can put out almost 4000 damage in under 4 seconds, so long as my aim is descent. My controller is actually broken and causes my camera to randomly swing in any given direction, and I STILL decimate with this monster. And it isn't just my Ishokune. No. CCP went and put in the Militia forgegun, which I used to use quite a lot. It's nowhere near as bad as you might think, and can be fit on a militia heavy DAY ONE. BAM, AV specialist right off the bat, drop some SP for basic AV nades and buy yourself a militia LAV, you'd be amazed how effective you can be. As a former dropship pilot who logged plenty of flight time before and after Uprising, I can safely say that Dropships have no place in the game while forge guns remain as effective as they are against them. Like Zeus atop Mt Olympus, I rain hell from towers upon infantry and vehicle alike. I decimate all but the most distant or persistent snipers, and laugh at the foolish dropships that dare approach me. Why is no one crying about the Forge Gun? Careful dude, your opening a can of worms & gonna get your toy nerfed. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. side note: I want a Nerf Forge gun now...it would look on my Nerf wall.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 972	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:01:00 - [18] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Because while the Forge Gun is a good weapon and does EXACTLY what it is supposed to do, it also has serious drawbacks. I guess I just wish it wasn't so easy to kill infantry with it :/ And I wish vehicles stood a little more of a chance against it....because....I slay like....all the things with my Ishokune. It's great fun and makes me laugh. This is a strong indication that it might be a smidge too awesome ;) The Forge is supposed to be an anti-everything weapon. It fires charged antimatter for christs sake. And it's perfectly balanced. Infantry who die to the forge gun within 20 meters are either incredibly bad or incredibly unlucky from rogue OHK shots. What you have managed to prove is that most people who play dust are, in fact, terrible. You should feel proud of yourself for exposing this fact.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6373	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:02:00 - [19] - Quote Eriknaught wrote: Careful dude, your opening a can of worms & gonna get your toy nerfed. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. side note: I want a Nerf Forge gun now...it would look on my Nerf wall. http://wholles.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Nerf-Gun-Arsenal.jpg Damn I knew I was missing something.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1370	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:03:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Eriknaught wrote: Careful dude, your opening a can of worms & gonna get your toy nerfed. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. side note: I want a Nerf Forge gun now...it would look on my Nerf wall. http://wholles.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Nerf-Gun-Arsenal.jpg Damn I knew I was missing something. Off topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEQKecMUawc

We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 148	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:05:00 - [21] - Quote I would say, with my two Isk. That forge guns are great the way they are and I'm a logo on one alt and a tanker on my other. I have dabbled in forge gunning but nothing past adv I think what seperates it from the other OP weapons is it takes a lot of skill to use a forge gun and a little patience most of the FOTM club don't have the ability to use something that makes you work for your kills. To me you guys are just another form of sniper... That will completely wreck your sh*t if you don't actively try to stay out of the killzone
Mintqueer Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:08:00 - [22] - Quote It is on the list but is not next on the nerf list... for now
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2018	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:15:00 - [23] - Quote Because the Forge Gun isn't OP, nor does it need a nerf. It's a strong weapon, Tanks are a little UP because the Standard is the only thing that exists.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Not Guilty EoN. 71	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:21:00 - [24] - Quote its already been said that they are going to nerf its range by givin it damage decay over distance, the QQ'ers have already gotten what they want it just hasn't been implemented yet. So shut yer traps ya damn nerfers. Fact is the damn thing already has a ton of drawbacks,like the fact that even at its best, on a tower, you can simply snipe and keep everyone suppressed on the tower, while getting free kills, and in an lav you can simply destroy his lav with your tank and ahnilate him while he charges unless you're a garbage tanker, not to mention real tankers are armor tankers and sponge up 7-10 shots from an ishukone w/ damage mods. You can easily kill most tanks because most tanks are fitted with garbage. Not because the FG is OP.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Not Guilty EoN. 71	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:23:00 - [25] - Quote .
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5357	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:25:00 - [26] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: its already been said that they are going to nerf its range by givin it damage decay over distance, the QQ'ers have already gotten what they want it just hasn't been implemented yet. So shut yer traps ya damn nerfers. Fact is the damn thing already has a ton of drawbacks,like the fact that even at its best, on a tower, you can simply snipe and keep everyone suppressed on the tower, while getting free kills, and in an lav you can simply destroy his lav with your tank and ahnilate him while he charges unless you're a garbage tanker, not to mention real tankers are armor tankers and sponge up 7-10 shots from an ishukone w/ damage mods. You can easily kill most tanks because most tanks are fitted with garbage. Not because the FG is OP. I hope it gets damage decay, Ive wanted that for a long long time. That change alone will work wonders in helping popships to not pop. Im looking forward to that and maybe a smidge less splash radius, to keep forge sniping more in the "skilled" category.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 228	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:11:00 - [27] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Shhhhhhhhhhh you fool let them cry godlock op while me and my militia heavy have fun now quit this nonsense and talk about something else Soooooo..... How's the weather? Hoooooooooooooooooot in Texas
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 423	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:27:00 - [28] - Quote As a Forge user myself I think it could do with less splash. Also, something that always niggles at me: folks citing the lack of ADS as a disadvantage of the Forge. What is the primary function of ADS? To reduce recoil and increase accuracy. The Forge Gun retains perfect accuracy even without ADS and isn't subject to recoil so in fact it pretty much enjoys the benefits of ADS without even having to ADS.
SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 39	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:31:00 - [29] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: about the forge gun? O.o I've used the forge gun for a combined total of over 6 months, and now am just a few days from being able to use my Gaston's. My Ishokune is death incarnate. I snipe snipers with this thing. I lock down entire sections of the map by getting a little high ground. I DESTROY vehicles of all kinds. Dropships don't stand a chance, and only the toughest LLAVs escape me. With AV grenades and an LAV of my own, I rarely face an HAV that is a match for me (solo). I can put out almost 4000 damage in under 4 seconds, so long as my aim is descent. My controller is actually broken and causes my camera to randomly swing in any given direction, and I STILL decimate with this monster. And it isn't just my Ishokune. No. CCP went and put in the Militia forgegun, which I used to use quite a lot. It's nowhere near as bad as you might think, and can be fit on a militia heavy DAY ONE. BAM, AV specialist right off the bat, drop some SP for basic AV nades and buy yourself a militia LAV, you'd be amazed how effective you can be. As a former dropship pilot who logged plenty of flight time before and after Uprising, I can safely say that Dropships have no place in the game while forge guns remain as effective as they are against them. Like Zeus atop Mt Olympus, I rain hell from towers upon infantry and vehicle alike. I decimate all but the most distant or persistent snipers, and laugh at the foolish dropships that dare approach me. Why is no one crying about the Forge Gun? shield tankers response to this thread- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCBOp-4U8OM
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 289	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:32:00 - [30] - Quote One: because it comes only with a slow heavy suit that's extremely vulnerable close up. Two: it's hard to whine about an anti AV weapon when everyone is so fed up with Death taxis. Three: tanks and drop suits have complained about FG for months.



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