The RoF on the normal variant is too slow to spam, and the assault does so little splash damage it would take a clip or more to kill with splash only. You should give it a try..

So you trying to tell me the MassDriver is achallenging gun and to kill with it takes skill?

More skill than an AR from more than 20 meters and less than 10 meters if you don't have elevation. And if your opponent has the high-ground have fun trying to kill them.

More skill than an AR from more than 20 meters and less than 10 meters if you don't have elevation. And if your opponent has the high-ground have fun trying to kill them.

So you trying to tell me the MassDriver is achallenging gun and to kill with it takes skill?

lol I do but ironically I use it on my logi :P I didn't spec into flaylocks but I did mass drivers and I noticed the damage and/or radius seems to be too much by a little bit it should scare people not rip them a new one imo I think it outshines the aim weapons same with flaylock and makes shotgun stupid to use

LMFAO! Ya ok. Sitting on top of elevation and pressing R1 over and over and over is sooooo hard. Man I really feel for you. a Grenade launcher in a shooter. Whew your right I'll stick to my noob AR that is soooo easy compared to a grenade launcher that one shots armor. Specially after fluxing enemies.

If you used it, you would know this. The MD is very situational, useless against elevated opponents, has limited ammo, ballistics physics and dropoffs, weak against shields, and has less DPS than a militia AR. People complain about it because it's the perfect anti-rush/area denial weapon and a hard counter to zerg rushers. On open ground in a 1 v 1 situation with an AR, you better have some damn good footwork and can cook flux grenades because you're at a severe disadvantage.

So you trying to tell me the MassDriver is achallenging gun and to kill with it takes skill?

My God, when will people stop saying this? The MD takes a different skill set than the AR, but yes, it does take a high level of skill to use effectively. With the AR you essentially just point and click on your target, and if your aim is good then you get a hit. With the MD this isn't the case. You have to think about angles and trajectory, and do quick mental calculations about missile flight time vs. predicted enemy movement.

I just have to conclude that you haven't used the MD for any significant amount of time if you think it doesn't take any skill.

I'm not gonna quote the whole thing, but +1 to djinn leukoplast's post for actually taking the time to do some research and find out what it's like to be in the shoes of a Mass Driver user. For as many times as you are very effective and racking up double/triple kills, there are many more times where you are rendered completely useless and cannot engage (hence situational).

Ugh, I'm getting tired of this crap.

My God, when will people stop saying this? The MD takes a different skill set than the AR, but yes, it does take a high level of skill to use effectively. With the AR you essentially just point and click on your target, and if your aim is good then you get a hit. With the MD this isn't the case. You have to think about angles and trajectory, and do quick mental calculations about missile flight time vs. predicted enemy movement.

I just have to conclude that you haven't used the MD for any significant amount of time if you think it doesn't take any skill.

I'm not gonna quote the whole thing, but +1 to djinn leukoplast's post for actually taking the time to do some research and find out what it's like to be in the shoes of a Mass Driver user. For as many times as you are very effective and racking up double/triple kills, there are many more times where you are rendered completely useless and cannot engage (hence situational).

Ugh, I'm getting tired of this crap.

I recently started using an alt with about 4.6 million SP on it, I decided to focus on the MD since I never really used it that much in the past.

My setup:

M/1 advanced suit - Decided to go with Minmatar due to the increased movement and running speed (and it is oh so nice compared to my Calogi gimped movement!). I could have gone prototype, but I wouldn't have been able to get much core upgrades done, and I wouldn't have been able to get many of the things below that I stuck on the suit.

- 3 complex shield extenders (or 2 complex and an enhanced, can't remember ATM)
- EXO-5 Mass Driver
- C-7 Flux Grenade - Using a decent flux seems like a great combo with explosive weaponry
- GN-20 Specialist Flaylock Pistol - Haven't used the flaylock yet, so I figured why the heck not? I also thought it would compliment the MD nicely.
- K-2 Nanohive
- Two basic CPU enhancers

I used this setup all of last night, I just ran solo the entire time in ambush. My thoughts? Wow, the mass driver is not as easy as some people make it look. It works amazingly as a distraction type of weapon, and for support, but using it purely for the purpose of getting kills seems to be way out of my league. Let's just say if I had an AR, I would have done a LOT better, but then again that is what I have been using since I started playing this game, so it stands to reason. But man, I get so many assists, however when I do get a kill with the MD, it is oh so sweet! Especially if I successfully fluxed the person


Overall the MD is quite fun to use, and I am looking forward to playing with it again tonight. But I have a lot to learn about how to use it properly, especially in combination with fluxes. And from my use, even in combo with fluxes, it is certainly not OP. I am not sure how my results would vary if I was using proto, but if anything advanced and below need to be buffed a bit.


See the thing is, it isn't that the AR is OP, but instead the other weapons just aren't as effective. Although I am a noob with the MD right now, so maybe once I get used to it I will be able to kill with it like I can my AR.

My God, when will people stop saying this? The MD takes a different skill set than the AR, but yes, it does take a high level of skill to use effectively. With the AR you essentially just point and click on your target, and if your aim is good then you get a hit. With the MD this isn't the case. You have to think about angles and trajectory, and do quick mental calculations about missile flight time vs. predicted enemy movement.

I just have to conclude that you haven't used the MD for any significant amount of time if you think it doesn't take any skill.

I'm not gonna quote the whole thing, but +1 to djinn leukoplast's post for actually taking the time to do some research and find out what it's like to be in the shoes of a Mass Driver user. For as many times as you are very effective and racking up double/triple kills, there are many more times where you are rendered completely useless and cannot engage (hence situational).

Ugh, I'm getting tired of this crap.