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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 19:36:00 -
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Shoutout to Teamplayers and EoN bros for securing land for indies. But I'd like to know if they are waging war against each other. It may be understandable that they can not launch or wage war against veteran corps but I'm thinking that you guys need to go at it.
Start beefs with each other....talk smack...attack each other...wage war.
Molden Heath shouldn't be only about EoN, LOI, Cronos, or any of the other veteran corps and alliances. Pick your wars and expand and experience PC. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 20:03:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:They are going at it. I keep an eye on it mostly becuase its actualy the only interesting thing going on. Fresh faces catching bullets is always good.
Its an awsome mini PC war going on and lets be honest its shaming the fight club planet right now activity wise.
Not sure if you know this but the indies have a really rich story developing and dam the meta is flowing.
But where is the mini PC war??? I'd love to know what's going on and who's fighting who and why and who's winning, etc, etc |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:00:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:We've been getting into it. Slowly at first, but ramping up as we get "settled in". There's a variety of corps I'd like to face in battle, having the means to do so means a lot to our members. Talk to me in game and we can set up some matches
Fightclub is set for "friendly matches". PC is set for conquering and war and earning ISK. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:02:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:being on the planet is teaching us little corps a lot about PC. I know my guys are stoked over it. Many of the CEO's on the planet are chatting back and forth, some mutual agreements have come about.
You guys are blued up already? |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.22 00:41:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:Except for the usual low intensity fighting and trolling between EoN and Cronos, I wouldn't think there will be much large alliance fighting for a while. LoI will take some time to regroup, and I've no idea what RofL plans on doing.
The smaller scale fights between newer corps will likely be the most interesting happenings for a while. I think it would be a good idea for Dust Reports to look into it.
Right...i don't see why their wars are on the back burner. Their wars are just as important as any others. Well, maybe not as important because the big alliances control most of the territory but they are significant enough.
And indie corps/alliances....don't ask for matches. If you don't like a corp's name, then attack. If they teabag you in a pub, then attack. If you want more ISK, then attack. I want to shout out Rust 415, cause Vacuum and LUX didn't care....when they go to war, they are going to war. I wish they would make a comeback. I'd like to see them rejoin PC and show the other small or indie corps/alliances how it's supposed to be done. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:36:00 -
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Max Tankitus wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Start beefs with each other....talk smack...attack each other...wage war.
Molden Heath shouldn't be only about EoN
Fixed. You should take your own advice. Stop being pussies EON and fight eachother.
Before LOI lost the war, EoN wasn't OP. Noone really knew what the outcome of the war was going to be because both alliances had good corps in it. Now, EoN is full of pussies because EoN won the war?
Anyway....EoN doesn't have to fight eah other. Point of this thread is to encourage other wars. EoN doesn't have to be front cover of Molden Heath. I'd like to see Top Men vs D.E.F I.A.N.C.E. vs Rust 415 vs General Tso's Alliance etc |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.22 21:20:00 -
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Max Tankitus wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Max Tankitus wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Start beefs with each other....talk smack...attack each other...wage war.
Molden Heath shouldn't be only about EoN
Fixed. You should take your own advice. Stop being pussies EON and fight eachother. Before LOI lost the war, EoN wasn't OP. Noone really knew what the outcome of the war was going to be because both alliances had good corps in it. Now, EoN is full of pussies because EoN won the war? Anyway....EoN doesn't have to fight eah other. Point of this thread is to encourage other wars. EoN doesn't have to be front cover of Molden Heath. I'd like to see Top Men vs D.E.F I.A.N.C.E. vs Rust 415 vs General Tso's Alliance etc Guy listen, we all know you dont HAVE to accept the challenge of getting some competitive fights going. The question is will you? If you dont, you are pussies, especially those corps that joined EoN in the weeks leading up to "the war". You cant use the excuse "but random alt, we formed EoN years and years ago, we all love eachother and will be together for ever even after Dust 514 is rotting in the ground". If you do decide to man the **** up good luck in the fights, cause I hear TP is the only good corp you guys have and they bailed you out all throughout the war. WIthout them you would not have won.
Lol so you're saying that TP is the only good corp in EoN but yet the other corps in EoN are the only competition out there lol.
There's no point in responding to an alt because you are probably the epitome of what you're accusing in this thread. If you're serous, get on your main.....if you're trolling, then..congrats you baited everyone well. But I won't bite anymore and neither should anyone else. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.23 11:25:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:This argument is getting exceedingly old.
TP are some great players, but their competitive edge, much like Hellstorm's, Internal Error's, and other "elite" teams is more than slightly fueled by the effects of an SP gradient across the community. We've found out that the SP ceiling for relevant gear is something like 12-20 million SP for just one given specialization. The proportion of the community that has reached this barrier is...exceedingly low.
In a 16 v 16 match on the maps as they are designed, every single SP you're missing up to this ceiling is an extreme disadvantage. Without that 12mil SP, you will be missing a module, weapon, or other piece of gear, and any of these is huge.
What's more, missing any of these is FRUSTRATING. When you're losing to opponent not based on strategy, tactics, or coordination but based simply on a rote calculation, that wears on people. Even worse, it wears the most on people who have been playing nearly enough to match those SP totals because those are the players who match up in skill, just not skill points.
Someone asked earlier what ROFL is doing. Among other things, we're replenishing our player base with this competitive amount of skill points.
The reason nobody wants to fight EON. is that simple fact. Nobody else has the same number of high-SP players ready for matches. Those that were here have left the game, in the large part due to the mechanics issues that ran rampant throughout PC before 1.2., and otherwise because that skill point gradient is the most frustrating thing to encounter in a game.
Above all, nobody feels like losing to the game, rather than to an enemy team of players.
Let me emphasize, there are many great core teams out there in terms of raw player skill. But that's nowhere near the only deciding factor of matches.
Sp gap is not a problem...to be competitive, all that you need are complex shield extenders & damage mods, a prototype primary weapon, and a proto suit. You may also need points in passive skills like shields, armor, weapon damage. But these can be obtained all under 10M sp.
The skill gap is why corps cant beat some corps. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 05:16:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Ill try get this conversation back on topic.
We are attacking each other but very lightly. The underlying issue is that if an indie corp attacks another indy corp, we cannot bring ringers but the defenders can hire ringers thereby always winning (suggesting they hire good ringers). So makes the point of attacking moot in a lot of cases.
Ahhh, so vet ringers are placing a dampener on the wars? Hmm |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:38:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Shoutout to Teamplayers and EoN bros for securing land for indies. But I'd like to know if they are waging war against each other. It may be understandable that they can not launch or wage war against veteran corps but I'm thinking that you guys need to go at it.
Start beefs with each other....talk smack...attack each other...wage war.
Molden Heath shouldn't be only about EoN, LOI, Cronos, or any of the other veteran corps and alliances. Pick your wars and expand and experience PC.
Its great that they do that but when they intervene in matches between indie groups its gets very irritating.
Yeah, I think that would hurt a great deal if vets are doing so. I can only imagine that the ringer corps are fulfilling heir contract. Maybe they were conracted to defend for a specified period of time.
What I would suggest is that vet corps only help defend against other vet corps. If indie corps purchases a district from let's say, TP, then TP only rings if (let's say) SI is attacking. But if another indie or low skilled corp attack, then let them experience PC for themselves. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:44:00 -
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Max Tankitus wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:not trying to be a savior. the game is dying with or without my help. I just want those that actually like the game, like myself, to have the opportunity to experience the vision and potential of what this game can be.
not much else.
Just to play devil's advocate for a minute here, surely you can see why some people think that you guys are having the opposite effect? Fight club is fine and all, but any corp with any ambition towards PC knows that they are only allowed to go so far before EON labels them hostile and comes down on them with endless attacks from 15 corps with a huge collection of vet players, immediately sucking the wind out of their sails. It's kinda like the abominable snowman in the old looney toons. You are so excited for a fight that you immediately squeeze your opponent to death before you even get a chance to enjoy yourselves. Meanwhile, PC is stagnant because there is no sandbox, just a collusion between many vet players to run their own personal social engineering experiments. Just my 2 cents. Lolz.. in b4 EoN douchebags come in here claiming they are super loyal brotherhood of brothers thats why they wont disband and fight eachother and get rid of this stupid mega alliance bullshit once and for all. 1,2,3 corps maybe? But 15+.. come the **** on.
EoN just outlasted the other alliances. Because ROFL had more players, Cronos had more players, Orion had more players, etc. EoN wasn't built last week. Sure..they EoN has grown but still while other alliance(s) were around. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:27:00 -
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EoN isn't waging war on all the other corps. So, there shouldn't be a problem. Even if EoN broke up, corps would still have to face the same corps that are in EoN individually. Remember LOI had Hellstorm, Internal Error, Pro Hic, outer.heaven (before they kicked them), Molon, 187, Warravens, etc...with SI, WTF, and Nyain San blued up.
It isn't EoN's fault that they lasted....cause when PC started...EoN wasn't looked at as OP. Now, that alliances backed out or kicked out, the community is asking for a nerf. |
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