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R'adeh Hunt
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:23:00 -
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The Caldari logi was CLEARLY OP...so now that they brought it in line with other logis you want to nerf them to make sure the Caldari one is OP (aka king of the hill) again?
Yeah...let's not do that! |
R'adeh Hunt
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:40:00 -
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Mintqueer wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:The Caldari logi was CLEARLY OP...so now that they brought it in line with other logis you want to nerf them to make sure the Caldari one is OP (aka king of the hill) again? Yeah...let's not do that! Yes it was powerful but regardless of its combat capabilities the total amount of CPU used by Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar is relatively the same, it is understadable that other logistics dropsuits want to keep the Light-Weapon capabilities but this must not be allowed to happen. If a decrease of 20 CPU was applied to the whole class, a choice may have to be made of either having a prototype weapon or having prototype equipment and real logi will agree that support role is far more important.
The difference is warranted because of slot layouts. Caldari focus on shield tanking, so they can afford to sacrifice a low slot...especially since they already have more slots than the rest.
Minmatar can't do it as easily because if they want a comparable tank, they need to both shield and armor tank.
Gallente NEED to have higher CPU because they're armor tanking and really can't sacrifice any low slots for CPU mods...and neither can Amarr.
A choice of proto equipment already has to be made, because other than Gallente none of them can realistically fit all proto.
Fit a damn CPU mod on your Caldari suit, you have an extra slot to do just that....and your tank will still be comparable to the others. If you remove CPU from the other suits, you end up with the Caldari suit still having the highest HP.
In short: To demand a nerf to the other suits is a DUMB idea. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:08:00 -
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Mintqueer wrote:Dj grammer wrote:
They have more PG than all of the other logistics suits now (all gained a plus 3 PG base). The reason Amarr had 3 high and 3 low is due to the fact that they're the only logistics suit in the game with a side-arm slot (which is now gained at standard level). Name me any other logistics suit that has that slot. Also (saying this like a broken record) your caldari suit has 5 high and 4 low
Also if you further read the article, the Amarr prototype logistics suit gained an additional low slot at pro tier and their third equipment slot at advance tier. So the Amarr logistics prototype suit now has 3 high and 4 low while still maintaining 390 CPU and 66 PG both are base values. Also if you threw in core upgrades with the electronics and engineering upgrades you can have a max of 512 CPU and 87 PG before putting on any modules.
I didn't wanted to bring that up yet but ok... every logistics dropsuit will have 4+ Low-Powered modules which is sufficient to fit in a CPU module, therefore if it is correct for a dropsuit that has literally the same amount of CPU usage if compared to its counterparts to get a deduction of 20 CPU, then it is correct for the rest of the class dropsuit to receive the same treatment that caldari logistics are receiving.
NO! Because unlike Caldari, other races actually need those slots to get a comparable tank to Caldari logis |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:34:00 -
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Mintqueer wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:NO! Because unlike Caldari, other races actually need those slots to get a comparable tank to Caldari logis Caldari can shield tank, but it requires a lot of CPU and SP intensive modules to make it worth Minmatar can speed tank, which is very viable with the aim mechanics and strafing of the base dropsuit Gallente can armor tank and armor repair nanohives are your friend repairing +40 hp faster than you can speak. Amarr can behave pretty much like an assault suit with its sidearm gaining that competitive edge over the enemy
You have an extra slot to cope with shield tanking CPU needs.
A Minmatar logi can't really speed tank unless he sacrifices low slots for that purpose, which means he can't fit a CPU upgrade needed to get a proper shield tank going. And even IF he fits suits like that, his tank would STILL be weaker than that of Caldari.
Gallente can armor tank, but in return can't afford to fit CPU upgrades...which is why they have more CPU.
Amarr logis are still significantly weaker than their assault counterparts. So no, they aren't "pretty much like an assault suit".
Your proposed nerf to other logi suits would once again make the Caldari suit the king of the hill...so no, a nerf like that would be stupid. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:44:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Seems like a lot of the responses here are just use a CPU upgrade at proto level.
What about advanced or standard level, where Cal Logis also have to dual tank? How is the CPU nerf justified at lower levels?
It's justified because guess what, the other race suits suffer from the same drawbacks that count for them at proto level |
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