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Aythadis Smith
The Generals
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Posted - 2013.07.20 21:24:00 -
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( I am noting that I am an armor user)
Most armor suits have this tiny sliver of shield and then a nice beefy center.
Shield users have this nice pool of shield, and tiny armor.
Looking on average, shield users have 4/3 while we run 3/4
Say shield user doesnt put armor on that right side, what can he put? SPEED, HACKING, things to make his shields come back even faster. So he can pop in and out as he pleases ( or as his shields please)
Armor. Our Left side has pretty much damage mods. We are slow, we can be repped but... Lets see. We are talking repping a shield guy ( guessing about 100 armor) as for me, I'm looking at 400+ armor. So the shield guy has a gun taken off the field for a few seconds, while he who is repping me, could take an easy 30 seconds. Half the time, yes, I do dual, but we are only talking about 150 odd shield.
So...another disadvantage to armor. Longer time in removing a gun off the field for repairs.
It is sad to say but...10 to 1, shield has a definitive advantage. Only thing you can do at this point is fire at range. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.20 22:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Aythadis Smith wrote:( I am noting that I am an armor user)
Most armor suits have this tiny sliver of shield and then a nice beefy center.
Shield users have this nice pool of shield, and tiny armor.
Looking on average, shield users have 4/3 while we run 3/4
Say shield user doesnt put armor on that right side, what can he put? SPEED, HACKING, things to make his shields come back even faster. So he can pop in and out as he pleases ( or as his shields please)
Armor. Our Left side has pretty much damage mods. We are slow, we can be repped but... Lets see. We are talking repping a shield guy ( guessing about 100 armor) as for me, I'm looking at 400+ armor. So the shield guy has a gun taken off the field for a few seconds, while he who is repping me, could take an easy 30 seconds. Half the time, yes, I do dual, but we are only talking about 150 odd shield.
So...another disadvantage to armor. Longer time in removing a gun off the field for repairs.
It is sad to say but...10 to 1, shield has a definitive advantage. Only thing you can do at this point is fire at range. All the useful mods minus damage mods are in low slots, are you blind? And speed mods are as effective as damage mods, don't disregard them so quickly. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752There, he is a full list minus the insta gibbing of why armor sucks.
That's what I meant. Shield uses, lows lots ( meant right not left). Typo really.
Shield guys gets all this right side dependent crap.
Total typo. User error, really. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.20 22:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:I understand shields do have alot of advantages but if you have 3 high slots I'm sure you can shield tank some as well... I run Caldari assault but I also armor tank most of my fits as heavily as I can since don't plan on being fluxxed to death like a noob. Even with a complex shield extender I still only have 214 shield HP, which is not enough to stop a core locus grenade from insta killing me before I can blink. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752
That contact nades take me out before I can even blink |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
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Posted - 2013.07.20 22:57:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:Shields on a galente suit > armor on a galente suit. I'm pretty sure that's how it's designed, shields are for defense. armor is for exploding, and walking slower.
There is only 2 ways It can go. Fix armor, or bring back the old viziam with a dmg increase to it. That way atleast everybody dies at the same speed to there counter.
So ....in a way, a SCOUT will have more shield then this suit. So...shield tank a GAL. So 3 slots for shields.For go armor. Something doesnt smell right here.
I wonder, are they tuning one suit at a time? At this rate, at least I don't scout 100% of the time. Since that is the suit least used. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 00:02:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Aythadis Smith wrote:( I am noting that I am an armor user)
Most armor suits have this tiny sliver of shield and then a nice beefy center.
Shield users have this nice pool of shield, and tiny armor.
Looking on average, shield users have 4/3 while we run 3/4
Say shield user doesnt put armor on that right side, what can he put? SPEED, HACKING, things to make his shields come back even faster. So he can pop in and out as he pleases ( or as his shields please)
Armor. Our Left side has pretty much damage mods. We are slow, we can be repped but... Lets see. We are talking repping a shield guy ( guessing about 100 armor) as for me, I'm looking at 400+ armor. So the shield guy has a gun taken off the field for a few seconds, while he who is repping me, could take an easy 30 seconds. Half the time, yes, I do dual, but we are only talking about 150 odd shield.
So...another disadvantage to armor. Longer time in removing a gun off the field for repairs.
It is sad to say but...10 to 1, shield has a definitive advantage. Only thing you can do at this point is fire at range. yo you need logis to use this "Core Focused Repair Tool" it does the highest on dropsuits(105hp/s) so your 400+ only takes 3 seconds to get to max. shields have flux to worry about so GTFO.
Point taken, but Flux ( not supposed to) kill. Contact takes me on usually on on spamming.
Next, being rude doesn't help your case nor mine. So please, lose the attitude. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 00:04:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Why some people insist on using one style of defense and not hybridizing is beyond me Yes, because shield tanking is an option on a proto gallente scout with its exorbitant grand total of 1 high slot =\ Any scout trying to slug it out with someone in a stand up fight is playing the class wrong
How can he flank or even get close to his target if he is just going to be instant pop?
Pro Gal Scout is 1/4
So either that is something for speed and survivability or, red line sniper |
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