DUST Search - 1.4 Doesnt Come Fast Enough

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

LAVs cant climb ladders, true story.

Yep, them objectives are just going to hack themselves while one player uses his 'I win button' against all forms of infantry. Glad our current CPM can think constructively and look at all the angles.

Sure, forge gun is great whenever you drop a bunch of SP into a playstyle you dont want/like because all other forms of AV are gimped against LAVs.

Tanks are fun too, Im sort of waiting for one of the HAV guys to come in and say, "Yo, tanks are UP so this isnta legit defense" because, lets be real, what happens when the heavy in the LAV bails out and uses HIS forgegun/nades on your all powerful tank?

Already looked at two other angles you completely overlooked because you have this belief that LAVs are fine, currently, rather than listening to the community and what theyre expressing. Less SP than an Infantry specialization and you have a vehicle that can go to the supply depot in their base the second they take damage and - brace yourself - bail and use the HMG/Forgegun forwhatever they cant run over.

This is -one player- accomplishing every role in the game at once. Theres no rock, paper, scissors when the opponent is usually a combination of them all. High tank, remarkable speed, fast recovery, versatility and finally good killing ability. Find me one other specialization that provides this.

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Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2159	Posted - 2013.07.20 17:45:00 - [1] - Quote Id almost take an LAV fix over the Flaylock/Contact Nades... Just lost (and went negative KDR for first time in weeks) to the A-Team LAV squad of the year. 2x Blood Raider Sagas 1x Saga-II 1x Baloch Scoreboard for the enemy team? 24/6 23/2 20/0 21/0 Total (for just those four): 88/8 - effectively half the clones. Soooooo frustrating that LAVs can win matches by themselves. 150 Clones sure doesnt seem like much anymore. Really hoping the vehicle balancing in 1.4 comes early on like the PC matches. So whats the worse you guys have seen?
Azura Sakura Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 338	Posted - 2013.07.20 17:49:00 - [2] - Quote Wow.
Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 301	Posted - 2013.07.20 17:53:00 - [3] - Quote There are a few corps that run squads of 3-4 LLAVs quite often in FW. These guys go 20-30/1 each due to the fact that they stick together like schools of fish. By the time everyone comes back in with AV their infantry shows up, so you're trying to dance around bullets while trying to get a lock or in range to throw a grenade, then you're struck by a different LAV or maybe two at the same time. What else is absolutely amazing is that any time there is an LLAV torturing a team, and that LLAV or multiple LLAVs get taken out the game completely shifts. Though it's usually too late because you're already almost cloned or it took 70% of the match to kill the drivers or pop the LLAVs. We need webifiers or something of the sort to pin these things down easier.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2013.07.20 17:55:00 - [4] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Id almost take an LAV fix over the Flaylock/Contact Nades... Just lost (and went negative KDR for first time in weeks) to the A-Team LAV squad of the year. 2x Blood Raider Sagas 1x Saga-II 1x Baloch Scoreboard for the enemy team? 24/6 23/2 20/0 21/0 Total (for just those four): 88/8 - effectively half the clones. Soooooo frustrating that LAVs can win matches by themselves. 150 Clones sure doesnt seem like much anymore. Really hoping the vehicle balancing in 1.4 comes early on like the PC matches. So whats the worse you guys have seen? So go AV
Pje251296 KILL ORDERS 59	Posted - 2013.07.20 17:57:00 - [5] - Quote LAV's haven't much of a problem for me if I just stick to higher ground and let the AV grenades do the work while watching poor innocent clones die, but then the Jesuslock comes in....
Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 302	Posted - 2013.07.20 18:01:00 - [6] - Quote Pje251296 wrote: LAV's haven't much of a problem for me if I just stick to higher ground and let the AV grenades do the work while watching poor innocent clones die, but then the Jesuslock comes in.... The problem is some maps don't allow high ground, the high ground exposes you to the guy with the thales in the enemy red line, or the LAVs will just drive up a walk way and run you over. Also, I run prototype AV and it will still take me an entire match trying to trap and kill 1-2 LLAVs.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2160	Posted - 2013.07.20 18:05:00 - [7] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Pje251296 wrote: LAV's haven't much of a problem for me if I just stick to higher ground and let the AV grenades do the work while watching poor innocent clones die, but then the Jesuslock comes in.... The problem is some maps don't allow high ground, or the high ground exposes you to the guy with the thales in the enemy red line. Also, I run prototype AV and it will still take me an entire match trying to trap and kill 1-2 LLAVs. Also, sticking to the high ground usually involves NOT hacking objectives. Something pretty crucial to a victory.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5329	Posted - 2013.07.20 18:12:00 - [8] - Quote I use nothing but BPO murder taxi right now, it actually hurts, how hard it makes me laugh half the time. Particularly running over forgegunners, I know how much rage it fills me with to get run over while charging up, and I laugh uncontrollably when I do it to others.
Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 302	Posted - 2013.07.20 18:15:00 - [9] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I use nothing but BPO murder taxi right now, it actually hurts, how hard it makes me laugh half the time. Particularly running over forgegunners, I know how much rage it fills me with to get run over while charging up, and I laugh uncontrollably when I do it to others. Most things are hilarious when they're not happening to you. Honestly, if I kill a driver, I steal his murder taxi and proceed to run his team over to return the favor.
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 522	Posted - 2013.07.20 18:48:00 - [10] - Quote "Hello. My name is Lai Dai, and I was born to make your day happier. I won't be mad if you use me, because I like to be used. Just drop me in the air, I will make all the job for you babe"

Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2164	Posted - 2013.07.20 22:47:00 - [11] - Quote Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: "Hello. My name is Lai Dai, and I was born to make your day happier. I won't be mad if you use me, because I like to be used. Just drop me in the air, I will make all the job for you babe" Id be more easily convinced if it still didn't take two AV grenades to put them down even with proto. Cheaper and less resource costly to go with lesser variants for the same results. Further more, an LAV at top speed can very easily outrun an AV nade's homing. I've actually seen an AV Nade do no damage to the LAV but somehow kill the gunner.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6310	Posted - 2013.07.20 22:49:00 - [12] - Quote LAVs cant climb ladders, true story.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5336	Posted - 2013.07.20 22:51:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: LAVs cant climb ladders, true story. WTB Ladder Equipment
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5336	Posted - 2013.07.20 22:56:00 - [14] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I use nothing but BPO murder taxi right now, it actually hurts, how hard it makes me laugh half the time. Particularly running over forgegunners, I know how much rage it fills me with to get run over while charging up, and I laugh uncontrollably when I do it to others. Most things are hilarious when they're not happening to you. Honestly, if I kill a driver, I steal his murder taxi and proceed to run his team over to return the favor. Believe m,e Im all too familiar with the pain of being onthe receiving end of a Murder Taxi. Its why I laugh so hard doing this. 0 ISK per death and I dont die too often :/ Ive almost cried killing Proto Heavies....seriously, I understand why people think LAVs are fine
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 336	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:05:00 - [15] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Pje251296 wrote: LAV's haven't much of a problem for me if I just stick to higher ground and let the AV grenades do the work while watching poor innocent clones die, but then the Jesuslock comes in.... The problem is some maps don't allow high ground, or the high ground exposes you to the guy with the thales in the enemy red line. Also, I run prototype AV and it will still take me an entire match trying to trap and kill 1-2 LLAVs. Also, sticking to the high ground usually involves NOT hacking objectives. Something pretty crucial to a victory. last I checked most objective hack points cant fit LAVs.... most not all... plus you have AV, if you haven't skilled high enough into it, do so... it is the proper counter to this problem. and it works when used appropriately.... I have also seen more skilled mercs lately shooting people out of their LAVs.... I was actually noveknifed out of mine!... was very impressed.... another good counter to LAVs is believe it or not... LAVs!.... and tanks.... I have used my LAV as a barrier to stop murder taxis... I have also ran into my own team members to sweep them out of the path of one... I have also been on the other side of this.... its actually a lot of fun when another skilled LAV driver is on the field and we are essentially in a dog fight with each other. my point is there are a lot of murder taxi counters already ... use them right ... sometimes it takes a team effort... so don't be that guy refusing to get your AV fit out when the murder taxi is terrorizing your team....don't sit on these forums and tell me me 5-6 guys in AV fits cant take out 1 or 2 murder taxies...
Alldin Kan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:13:00 - [16] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Id almost take an LAV fix over the Flaylock/Contact Nades... Just lost (and went negative KDR for first time in weeks) to the A-Team LAV squad of the year. 2x Blood Raider Sagas 1x Saga-II 1x Baloch Scoreboard for the enemy team? 24/6 23/2 20/0 21/0 Total (for just those four): 88/8 - effectively half the clones. Soooooo frustrating that LAVs can win matches by themselves. 150 Clones sure doesnt seem like much anymore. Really hoping the vehicle balancing in 1.4 comes early on like the PC matches. So whats the worse you guys have seen? Either get yourself a Forge Gun or Bring a Tank with a Scattered Neutron Blaster.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1981	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:17:00 - [17] - Quote Want to counter an LAV? Scattered Blaster and a Sica, done. Instadead driver.
Draka Marintu TeamPlayers EoN. 76	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:20:00 - [18] - Quote My only issue with lavs are the fact it takes 2-3 shots to kill a logi one with an ishikone forge and when you add their speed on top of it a good driver can be a ***** to hit
AfroSunshineY Consequence Clan Choinnich 32	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:22:00 - [19] - Quote "Whine Whine - I had a bad game - whine whine - nerf this, nerf that, nerf your grandma, nerf everything" This is basically what I read.
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 124	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:43:00 - [20] - Quote what really needs to happen is remove clone cap from public skirmish/domination. what this does is make capturing points the only way to win. mass lav use with the intention to cap you out before the mcc's can kill each other wont be able to happen anymore. people can still use lav's for whatever they want but all the kills in the eve universe wont count for nothing if they dont help cap points.

Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 337	Posted - 2013.07.21 00:42:00 - [21] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: what really needs to happen is remove clone cap from public skirmish/domination. what this does is make capturing points the only way to win. mass lav use with the intention to cap you out before the mcc's can kill each other wont be able to happen anymore. people can still use lav's for whatever they want but all the kills in the eve universe wont count for nothing if they dont help cap points. that's just a bad idea... and not why people are mad.... they are mad simply because they get run over... nothing to do with clone cap
Gigatron Prime The.Primes 277	Posted - 2013.07.21 01:07:00 - [22] - Quote Update 2.0 doesn't come fast enough. Lol scratch that DESTINY doesn't come fast enough.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2171	Posted - 2013.07.21 01:45:00 - [23] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: LAVs cant climb ladders, true story. Yep, them objectives are just going to hack themselves while one player uses his 'I win button' against all forms of infantry. Glad our current CPM can think constructively and look at all the angles. Sure, forge gun is great whenever you drop a bunch of SP into a playstyle you dont want/like because all other forms of AV are gimped against LAVs. Tanks are fun too, Im sort of waiting for one of the HAV guys to come in and say, "Yo, tanks are UP so this isnta legit defense" because, lets be real, what happens when the heavy in the LAV bails out and uses HIS forgegun/nades on your all powerful tank? Already looked at two other angles you completely overlooked because you have this belief that LAVs are fine, currently, rather than listening to the community and what theyre expressing. Less SP than an Infantry specialization and you have a vehicle that can go to the supply depot in their base the second they take damage and - brace yourself - bail and use the HMG/Forgegun forwhatever they cant run over. This is -one player- accomplishing every role in the game at once. Theres no rock, paper, scissors when the opponent is usually a combination of them all. High tank, remarkable speed, fast recovery, versatility and finally good killing ability. Find me one other specialization that provides this.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 624	Posted - 2013.07.22 03:44:00 - [24] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Unkillable LAVs running folks over results in a smaller playerbase, true story. Fixed. Trolling the playerbase by takeing a month or longer to fix a broken game mechanic may have been cool in 2012 but not anymore. In other words its crunch time but no patch notes??....sigh. Another week gone by on the way to November and the PS4, true story.
SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 38	Posted - 2013.07.22 03:51:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Id almost take an LAV fix over the Flaylock/Contact Nades... Just lost (and went negative KDR for first time in weeks) to the A-Team LAV squad of the year. 2x Blood Raider Sagas 1x Saga-II 1x Baloch Scoreboard for the enemy team? 24/6 23/2 20/0 21/0 Total (for just those four): 88/8 - effectively half the clones. Soooooo frustrating that LAVs can win matches by themselves. 150 Clones sure doesnt seem like much anymore. Really hoping the vehicle balancing in 1.4 comes early on like the PC matches. So whats the worse you guys have seen? ONE SOLUTION.. blaster tank
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 685	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:14:00 - [26] - Quote Gigatron Prime wrote: Update 2.0 doesn't come fast enough. Lol scratch that DESTINY doesn't come fast enough. I can't wait to do only co-op pve in 2014. I also can't wait to have my game play dictated by some Hollywood producer. Sounds fun. That is sarcasm if you didn't get it.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 356	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:22:00 - [27] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: what really needs to happen is remove clone cap from public skirmish/domination. what this does is make capturing points the only way to win. mass lav use with the intention to cap you out before the mcc's can kill each other wont be able to happen anymore. people can still use lav's for whatever they want but all the kills in the eve universe wont count for nothing if they dont help cap points. lol so ill just run murder taxi while they let me kill them over and over again in there free mlt fits get all the wps and when it matters in PC battles i will have proto everything and i did not even have to step out of MLT fit Lav
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 356	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:27:00 - [28] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: LAVs cant climb ladders, true story. Yep, them objectives are just going to hack themselves while one player uses his 'I win button' against all forms of infantry. Glad our current CPM can think constructively and look at all the angles. Sure, forge gun is great whenever you drop a bunch of SP into a playstyle you dont want/like because all other forms of AV are gimped against LAVs. Tanks are fun too, Im sort of waiting for one of the HAV guys to come in and say, "Yo, tanks are UP so this isnta legit defense" because, lets be real, what happens when the heavy in the LAV bails out and uses HIS forgegun/nades on your all powerful tank? Already looked at two other angles you completely overlooked because you have this belief that LAVs are fine, currently, rather than listening to the community and what theyre expressing. Less SP than an Infantry specialization and you have a vehicle that can go to the supply depot in their base the second they take damage and - brace yourself - bail and use the HMG/Forgegun forwhatever they cant run over. This is -one player- accomplishing every role in the game at once. Theres no rock, paper, scissors when the opponent is usually a combination of them all. High tank, remarkable speed, fast recovery, versatility and finally good killing ability. Find me one other specialization that provides this. Are we talking about LLAV that you have to skill into cuse if its mlt Lav fit 2 av nads on the ground fix the lav and the player inside regardless of how much hp the player had LLAV Remote explosives. 2-3 of these should finished them off easy Heavy has 1k ehp ? av nade took him out cuse he couldn't bail in time. and you get the wp for the vehicle and the kill...
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 228	Posted - 2013.07.22 05:05:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: LAVs cant climb ladders, true story. challenge accepted
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 958	Posted - 2013.07.22 05:12:00 - [30] - Quote Gigatron Prime wrote: Update 2.0 doesn't come fast enough. Lol scratch that DESTINY doesn't come fast enough. PS2 here, i like tanks and they work there and have balance. they feel like tanks in basically every way. here its just one big joke to be a pilot/drivershrug guess im going there on PS4

LHughes Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 97	Posted - 2013.07.22 05:44:00 - [31] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Id almost take an LAV fix over the Flaylock/Contact Nades... Just lost (and went negative KDR for first time in weeks) to the A-Team LAV squad of the year. 2x Blood Raider Sagas 1x Saga-II 1x Baloch Scoreboard for the enemy team? 24/6 23/2 20/0 21/0 Total (for just those four): 88/8 - effectively half the clones. Soooooo frustrating that LAVs can win matches by themselves. 150 Clones sure doesnt seem like much anymore. Really hoping the vehicle balancing in 1.4 comes early on like the PC matches. So whats the worse you guys have seen? A man having a sh*t outside mcdonalds, picking it up offering passers by one lick, if you wanted more than one lick you had to pay. I left my wallet at home :( #Overthrowing_Sha


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