DUST Search - Why P2W is a good thing

Pikachu Power wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Pikachu Power wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

I'm a vet, and I'm not leaving due to Logistics suit changes.

That's great. What happens when enough players leave that there are 1000 people online at a time?---> the game will not be supported, any further. New players do not stick with this game because of the horrible matchmaking. Vets leave because they end up having wasted money and even more precious time getting gear that is nerfed without their consent. The math is simple: Dust cannot survive in its current state, whether you, personally, stay or not, because players leave every day, and nobody sticks around to fill their spot.

I have a very frightening and possibly world-altering concept to introduce you to.

It's something called the "vocal minority".

Have you noticed that the people saying that the game is doomed unless they can move their SP out of Logi suits are quite commonly outnumbered? Have you considered the fact we've discussed many times in the past: that the portion of the playerbase that actually even uses these forums is quite small?

All told, if every last angry player on these forums was to leave, I think Dust could handle losing a max of around 100 players.

Stubborn people like you are holding Dust back. CCP needs to let the most critical players do what they do and truly listen to us or dust will never advance. If CCP listened to the Imperfects and not the scrubs, dust would be pretty good. If you actually look back in the forums to 2012 and early, early 2013, you will see that many of the problems we have now were predicted by them. Everything from AR assaults being the only viable class to shield tanks being obsolete, a small player base, and SP gap that cannot be overcome, and a rage quit of many players when nobody is having fun, anymore. CCP needs to take a look back at them. It's sad that they left, because since they were all good players, their opinions were unbiased. Too bad none of the newer players were around for that or they'd be laughing their asses off with the rest of the vets as one prophecy after another comes to pass.


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Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 333	Posted - 2013.07.20 05:18:00 - [1] - Quote Ok but nobody asked you to play this game. And you knew (or at least should have) knew how CCP works. You should already have read or seen the video where CCP goes on to say they have a 10 year plan. A 10 year plan!! Yet people like you have every threat in the back, talking about core gamers leaving and blah blah blah. And if the vets did leave, the noobs would have much more fun, which in turn could incite another surge of new players. I go on Dust and I interact with plenty of folks who just love this game. You couldn't tell that coming to this forum though. The problem is you mercenaries don't want to grind anymore because yall feel privileged because yall deem yourselves vets? You're the old man in the wheelchair that we are ready to push out of the window. Go to a nursing home if one is available in New Eden
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 333	Posted - 2013.07.20 05:49:00 - [2] - Quote Pikachu Power wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Pikachu Power wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm a vet, and I'm not leaving due to Logistics suit changes. That's great. What happens when enough players leave that there are 1000 people online at a time?---> the game will not be supported, any further. New players do not stick with this game because of the horrible matchmaking. Vets leave because they end up having wasted money and even more precious time getting gear that is nerfed without their consent. The math is simple: Dust cannot survive in its current state, whether you, personally, stay or not, because players leave every day, and nobody sticks around to fill their spot. I have a very frightening and possibly world-altering concept to introduce you to. It's something called the "vocal minority". Have you noticed that the people saying that the game is doomed unless they can move their SP out of Logi suits are quite commonly outnumbered? Have you considered the fact we've discussed many times in the past: that the portion of the playerbase that actually even uses these forums is quite small? All told, if every last angry player on these forums was to leave, I think Dust could handle losing a max of around 100 players. Stubborn people like you are holding Dust back. CCP needs to let the most critical players do what they do and truly listen to us or dust will never advance. If CCP listened to the Imperfects and not the scrubs, dust would be pretty good. If you actually look back in the forums to 2012 and early, early 2013, you will see that many of the problems we have now were predicted by them. Everything from AR assaults being the only viable class to shield tanks being obsolete, a small player base, and SP gap that cannot be overcome, and a rage quit of many players when nobody is having fun, anymore. CCP needs to take a look back at them. It's sad that they left, because since they were all good players, their opinions were unbiased. Too bad none of the newer players were around for that or they'd be laughing their asses off with the rest of the vets as one prophecy after another comes to pass. If CCP doesn't filter feedback and listen to the entire community, then the game is doomed. Vets don't know what they're talking about because they've been here longer. That's the same concept as adults who believe they know it all because they older, yet they play the same games that kids play, just spoken in a different language. No, you're the one who's stubborn. He said nothing that deemed him stubborn.