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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:44:00 -
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If we get another respec I'm not spending a single point for forever
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.08.12 13:10:00 -
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Sign me up |
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:44:00 -
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I'd like to remove all points from:
Level 5 Assault Rifle Operation Level 3 Assault Rifle Proficiency Level 4 Assault Rifle Sharpshooter Level 4 Shield Regulation Level 3 Shield Recharging
These skills no longer appeal to me as a dedicated HMG / FG heavy who's aiming to get back into piloting.
I'm not sure how much SP that is, but it's literally dead weight.
The SP system does not evolve with you as a player, rather it limits you by forcing you to stick to old playstyles or to ignore the SP you harvested in the first place.
There is no consequence or weight to your decision past the level of boredom it may or may not instill in you. |
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:50:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:But you just suck it up and grind on. There's a chance you might trick us and spec into FOTM. Support Logi Dropships OP bro
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.09.29 16:17:00 -
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Resigned for dropships if Wolfman actually ends up knowing how to fix them. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 16:39:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Example, I got sick of waiting for them to fix the Amarr logi suit so I specced into CalLogi. CCP finally got around to fixing that travesty a few weeks later, fortunately I hedged a little and stopped at lvl 4, but I still wasted a lot of SP and still, despite having 12 mil lifetime SP, don't have a proto suit. I don't beatch about it because I knew ahead of time what I was getting into.
Yea well I went full on dedicated logistics dropship pilot with Uprising and was mortified with how horrific of a choice that was, and was basically strongarmed into the respec by not wanting to smash my controller and uninstall DUST permanently. I'm sorry I wanted to actually play the game for X amount of months before dropships were ******* fixed (going on 4 right now, not counting the fact that they've been garbage most of beta as well).
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:21:00 -
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Bump for righteousness
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:24:00 -
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The new Turret skill tree alone warrants a full respec
Resigned times a billion
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Posted - 2013.11.14 16:49:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Infamous Erich wrote:1+ signed CCP can not change skills and not give a respec simple as that. Exactly! You skill into a suit because its got three low slots POW! now its got one slot. I know its an over exaggeration but hey thats pretty much what CCP is about to do. They did that to my ship in EVE and no respec was given. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234 In Eve are you forced to use only that ship all day every day to fight against only other players on a handful of maps?
Just curious.
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Posted - 2013.11.14 16:53:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:chase rowland wrote:Vethosis wrote:I heard some people wanted a petition, so here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB26grrZS2Alowratehitman approves of respeccing in some parts, please watch the video it is only 5 minutes. *snipped list of names* - CCP Eterne i agree, a respec is needed. i want a refund in vehicles and heavies, i didnt know they sucked ass Will you want one when they are reworked? Think you would have figured out they weren't that good when you put the first two levels in them. Like lots of other people did. I don't even use heavy suits and I knew better. So we're just not supposed to play the game how we like because CCP screwed up? We're supposed to just sit on millions of SP for months and months if not years just in the hopes that one day we can play something worthwhile, since CCP won't allow us to spend our hard earned SP how we see fit, or with all the information at hand.
This mentality is poison.
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Posted - 2013.11.14 16:56:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Infamous Erich wrote:1+ signed CCP can not change skills and not give a respec simple as that. Exactly! You skill into a suit because its got three low slots POW! now its got one slot. I know its an over exaggeration but hey thats pretty much what CCP is about to do. They did that to my ship in EVE and no respec was given. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234 In Eve are you forced to use only that ship all day every day to fight against only other players on a handful of maps? Just curious. Also we don't get paid for losing. No but you get paid for killing each rat, you get paid for looting their corpses, for mining rocks, for pulling resources off a planet, for scamming, for trading, for scanning and exploring, for hacking, for running industry, for killing other players, for completing missions.
Man, EVE and DUST are like, practically the same game.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:28:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:No but you get paid for killing each rat, you get paid for looting their corpses, for mining rocks, for pulling resources off a planet, for scamming, for trading, for scanning and exploring, for hacking, for running industry, for killing other players, for completing missions. Man, EVE and DUST are like, practically the same game. A t1 frig that is well fitted cost about 5 M and in anything but the lowest sec systems the rats don't pay. Mining pays about 3-6 M and hour in high sec if you are using a 50M ISK boat, PI cost about 10 M a planet to start and about 100 k to transfer one way to move your harvest, you can scam on DUST if you are good. Trading is difficult also most loot isn't that profitable unless it comes from low or under and then it takes a 50M ISK ship, industry isn't profit able unless you have almost perfect skills, a good supplier and researched BPO to manufacture from. Killing players only pays if you win. Missions are the most profitable if you can afford the ship to do them in. It is not the same because if you don't have 50M ISK it is hard to do anything but low level stuff that doesn't pay. Things that pay well require specialty fitted ships that are quite expensive and not fit to fight PVP and you have to fly them in very dangerous space. Unlike DUST where I sign in and hit the MCC for risk free ISK or just scan ans spam uplinks in a free suit. It is no where near the same and the risk is huge compare to here. Respecs will only make you feel better for a while and will not improve the game or make it more fun. The two games are not the same game but they are the same universe with similar SP systems and overall theme. The problem isn't CCP or DUST, it is the mentality of console players and how they feel like they deserve something for playing. You deserve to be able to make your decisions with all the information in front of you, particularly when speaking about CORE things, which the vast majority of changes coming down the pipe are.
I've played EVE and all the things you mention don't cost nearly what you mention unless you're trying to be the best of the best. You can get plenty of mileage out of basic things and some intelligence. I was making PLEX for a few months just mining and watching the market, and my skills are FAR from maxed. And what's most amusing is that in your attempt to defend EVE's....difficulty?..you just continue to prove how EVE is a game with a wide variety of playstyles and approaches, where as DUST, as you say, is spawn in the MCC and drop uplinks.
Respecs allow you to spend your SP the way you want when you have all the information laid out in front of you. The real mentality that is poisonous is thinking DUST is complete and that everyone should be happy with their decisions because the entire core structure is in place.
It isn't.
Like you said. You expect heavies to not exist because they're bad, so no one should have skilled into them, everyone should have been smart and specced flavor of the game (logi) or just HTFU. Really what it boils down to is some people chose the builds that are best for this game, and don't want anyone else to have the chance to fix or alter their builds in light of the new changes.
Proof that you have no clue what you're talking about is that you don't even acknowledge the new turret skill tree.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:31:00 -
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Oh, and in EVE you can buy about 600 million ISK for $20
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.14 18:02:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Oh, and in EVE you can buy about 600 million ISK for $20 What are AUR weapons? Same thing. Still not valid points. Yea, Im done with you lol. Pro respec arguments raise numerous valid points, where anti respec arguments are generally "because EVE" or "FoTM"
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:45:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:These anti respec guys just dont get. All mmoshooter, rpg, adventure,etc, they all have the option to respec in one way or another. I even gave some examples of games that had them. An mmo without respecs is mmo thats going to die.
To be fair, EVE is doing fine.
I'm sick of arguing this topic, but it boils down to the fact that until ALL basic CORE material and skills are live, requests for respecs are legitimate and warranted
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.19 19:06:00 -
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Omg sign this x12,000 just look at all those pretty changes strictly to vehicles....
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:40:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:When something has changes as significant as the total rewrite of vehicle handling, the RELEVANT skills should be refunded. Vehicle skills will need to be reassigned by vehicle users with the new mechanics and systems in mind.
People who trained as infantry still shouldn't get a respec - even a partial one - until the core mechanics behind their class are changed. Because maxing out your vehicle build and moving on to infantry never happens, and millions of mandatory SP investments never get added after the fact.
Oh wait.
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