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DJINN Rampage
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:25:00 -
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With the current changes made to the logistics suits, which are complete BS by the way (take away 20 CPU? DO YOU KNOW HOW TAXED MY SUIT IS ALREADY!) as well as the several mini nerfs made to just about everything in the game that 75% of the player base was forced to spec into just to compete. (yet you leave the flaylock as is) i feel we are intitled to a respec on the basis of this is the suit i picked because of the specifications that were listed to me when it came out. you going out of left wing and nerfing everything because YOU messed up is detremental to your player base. we as a whole demand a respec. and the several bumps this will ad head should prove to you that not only are we pissed. this might just make everyone leave the game altogether. i know i for one can't wait for the open beta of FF14 to drop on friday. if this demand isnt met CCP best of luck keeping your player base. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:39:00 -
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i dont play my cal logi as an assault suit, i run proto nanohives which take up 85 CPU and 15 PG, i also carry my proto injector which takes up 68 CPU and around 12 PG as well as uplinks which basic takes up 42 CPU and 8 PG and i run proto of that as well. slapping on 4 extenders at 58 CPU and 8 PG each as well as a damage mod 68 CPU and 12 PG, proto CPU extender and proto PG extender and my Douvalle as well as my regulators, its VERY intensive just to push my suit to the maximum efficiancy. i dont play as an assault, i play as a logi. i chose this suit simply because it was the best choice at the time. but it is no longer viable if i lose 20 CPU. as welll as my shields getting hit HARD. and my recharge time? i wonder whos going to pick you up now. i want my gallente logi suit, because it gets 25% reduction to CPU AND PG to my valuable equipment. at nearly 240k a suit its simply not viable to run my suit at all. and i feel like all the REAL logis that got this suit will feel the same way. the assaults will QQ about the shields. though it is big, the nerf to my CPU is what hurts the most. |
DJINN Rampage
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:42:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:i dont play my cal logi as an assault suit, i run proto nanohives which take up 85 CPU and 15 PG, i also carry my proto injector which takes up 68 CPU and around 12 PG as well as uplinks which basic takes up 42 CPU and 8 PG and i run proto of that as well. slapping on 4 extenders at 58 CPU and 8 PG each as well as a damage mod 68 CPU and 12 PG, proto CPU extender and proto PG extender and my Douvalle as well as my regulators, its VERY intensive just to push my suit to the maximum efficiancy. i dont play as an assault, i play as a logi. i chose this suit simply because it was the best choice at the time. but it is no longer viable if i lose 20 CPU. as welll as my shields getting hit HARD. and my recharge time? i wonder whos going to pick you up now. i want my gallente logi suit, because it gets 25% reduction to CPU AND PG to my valuable equipment. at nearly 240k a suit its simply not viable to run my suit at all. and i feel like all the REAL logis that got this suit will feel the same way. the assaults will QQ about the shields. though it is big, the nerf to my CPU is what hurts the most. There are mods to increase CPU that are low slots and so don't impact your shields. Adjust.
can you not read? i just said i run both proto Cpu enhancements AND PG extenders. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:46:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:i dont play my cal logi as an assault suit, i run proto nanohives which take up 85 CPU and 15 PG, i also carry my proto injector which takes up 68 CPU and around 12 PG as well as uplinks which basic takes up 42 CPU and 8 PG and i run proto of that as well. slapping on 4 extenders at 58 CPU and 8 PG each as well as a damage mod 68 CPU and 12 PG, proto CPU extender and proto PG extender and my Douvalle as well as my regulators, its VERY intensive just to push my suit to the maximum efficiancy. i dont play as an assault, i play as a logi. i chose this suit simply because it was the best choice at the time. but it is no longer viable if i lose 20 CPU. as welll as my shields getting hit HARD. and my recharge time? i wonder whos going to pick you up now. i want my gallente logi suit, because it gets 25% reduction to CPU AND PG to my valuable equipment. at nearly 240k a suit its simply not viable to run my suit at all. and i feel like all the REAL logis that got this suit will feel the same way. the assaults will QQ about the shields. though it is big, the nerf to my CPU is what hurts the most. There are mods to increase CPU that are low slots and so don't impact your shields. Adjust. can you not read? i just said i run both proto Cpu enhancements AND PG extenders. Use another extender, you have the slot for it.
sure, im just going to have to take off my injector and my uplinks, NBD cal logi as an assault suit? that's cool i guess. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:58:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote: sure, im just going to have to take off my injector and my uplinks, NBD cal logi as an assault suit? that's cool i guess.
CPU extender/upgrade whatever they're called You're other two lows are probably a kin mod and shield regulator right? Ditch the regulator.
you make perfect sense. ditch the thing their giving me a bonus for. no. NOW im going to have to slap on two of those and ditch my armor, also ditch my equipment because lets face it, who wants to die in a 240k suit?
i guess i should really thank CCP. you guys are not only giving me a major buff, 25% to both complex shield regulators is gunna be sweet psh, i can also get rid of the PG upgrade since im getting rid of my logi equipement, and they came out with those fancy energizers, oh yeah, life for a cal logi is gunna be sweet disregard this thread. i want to keep my skills :P |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:05:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote: sure, im just going to have to take off my injector and my uplinks, NBD cal logi as an assault suit? that's cool i guess.
CPU extender/upgrade whatever they're called You're other two lows are probably a kin mod and shield regulator right? Ditch the regulator. you make perfect sense. ditch the thing their giving me a bonus for. no. NOW im going to have to slap on two of those and ditch my armor, also ditch my equipment because lets face it, who wants to die in a 240k suit? i guess i should really thank CCP. you guys are not only giving me a major buff, 25% to both complex shield regulators is gunna be sweet psh, i can also get rid of the PG upgrade since im getting rid of my logi equipement, and they came out with those fancy energizers, oh yeah, life for a cal logi is gunna be sweet disregard this thread. i want to keep my skills :P He shows his true assault colors.
nah, ive been a logi since chromosome. ive always had my proto hives and will keep on using them. but you guys just convinced me to HTFU and say screw being a logi. i can kill very efficiently in my logi suit even without the bonus to shields, in fact i wanted that to get hit for some time now. i was hoping the new bonus would be to shield recharge rate because it sucks on the logi suit. then i saw the CPU nerf and my jaw dropped simply because, i love my suit and i love my equipment and i love helping out my bros while backing them up in a fire fight. now? sure i wont be able to fit my equipment anymore but that's fine. ill rather sacrifice it as it takes me down to at least an 180k suit and lets me tank and kill much more efficiently |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:08:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:With the current changes made to the logistics suits, which are complete BS by the way (take away 20 CPU? DO YOU KNOW HOW TAXED MY SUIT IS ALREADY!) as well as the several mini nerfs made to just about everything in the game that 75% of the player base was forced to spec into just to compete. (yet you leave the flaylock as is) i feel we are intitled to a respec on the basis of this is the suit i picked because of the specifications that were listed to me when it came out. you going out of left wing and nerfing everything because YOU messed up is detremental to your player base. we as a whole demand a respec. and the several bumps this will ad head should prove to you that not only are we pissed. this might just make everyone leave the game altogether. i know i for one can't wait for the open beta of FF14 to drop on friday. if this demand isnt met CCP best of luck keeping your player base. do you have the skill that increases cpu maxed. Also you are usually not able to run the best weapons, equipment and mods. I would recommend making a sacrifice in one of those areas. It was a good adjustment
yeah cy, i guess your right. though itll be wierd running without my equipment i can still fit my hives and be fine. i should really be thanking CCP as, if my calculations are correct. my depleted recharge delay time should be around 3 seconds while my regular delay should be 1.5. i LOL at people that think this actually affects assault players. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:18:00 -
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lol heavies are gunna be even madder when i cant pick em up after they were gunned down by.. oh yeah.. a CAL LOGI |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:21:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:Love these tears. As I just posted elsewhere: it's your baby. You made it you play with it.
Put it this way - people who did not spec into the op cal Logi were not offered respecs, why should you be now that your advantage has been diminished?
Keep the tears coming tho - they are delicious.
... you actually were.. and yet you ddnt take it because you thought it was getting nerfed.. lol
the people crying dont realize they actually just got buffed. they lost 92 shields in order to reduce their time without shields from 4 seconds to 1.5.
trust me, no one will be crying when they actually fit it. :P |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:27:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:and i feel like all the REAL logis that got this suit will feel the same way. the assaults will QQ about the shields. though it is big, the nerf to my CPU is what hurts the most. Your fitting description indicates you are a classic combat logi/medic. You are not a full support logi (reps). You drop pads and hives and go kill **** and pick up your bros when you can. Which is a fine playstyle, but it is exactly that playstyle that CCP was targeting because it's the playstyle people were complaining about being OP (almost as good as an assault with better survivability and additional utility through equipment) you now have to drop your damage mod (er... that's what they mean when they say you run as assault...) for another mod and pick/choose which equipment you will run. This is it right here. Why does a guy claiming to play as a logi in a Cal logi suit have a complex damage mod and a Duvolle on his fit, but no armor repper. It's sad how pathetic some of the player base in this game is.
you do realize we only get 3 equipent slots right? and im sorry, but an armor repper isnt high on my list of priorities. if i had 4 i would consider it but honestly id probobly add a triage nanohive.
im going to laugh when you all think we got nerfed.. yet all your getting killed by still is bumble bees ;) |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:35:00 -
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lol, leuko will be ok once i tell him how we got buffed and he ddnt notice.
and dual tank? PSH i triple tank. my douvalle doe 39 DPShot. ive got 558 shields AND 215 armor for good measure. fluxs dont scare me, especially since now ima run two regs that bring my shields back quicker than his 5HP armor rep... oh and i still get to keep my 5HP armor rep LOLOL |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:38:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Fist Groinpunch wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:and i feel like all the REAL logis that got this suit will feel the same way. the assaults will QQ about the shields. though it is big, the nerf to my CPU is what hurts the most. Your fitting description indicates you are a classic combat logi/medic. You are not a full support logi (reps). You drop pads and hives and go kill **** and pick up your bros when you can. Which is a fine playstyle, but it is exactly that playstyle that CCP was targeting because it's the playstyle people were complaining about being OP (almost as good as an assault with better survivability and additional utility through equipment) you now have to drop your damage mod (er... that's what they mean when they say you run as assault...) for another mod and pick/choose which equipment you will run. This is it right here. Why does a guy claiming to play as a logi in a Cal logi suit have a complex damage mod and a Duvolle on his fit, but no armor repper. It's sad how pathetic some of the player base in this game is. you do realize we only get 3 equipent slots right? and im sorry, but an armor repper isnt high on my list of priorities. if i had 4 i would consider it but honestly id probobly add a triage nanohive. im going to laugh when you all think we got nerfed.. yet all your getting killed by still is bumble bees ;) There's only 3 slots? That's a fair point then, if I was a logi I'd also choose the DUs, injectors, and hives. Still doesn't change the fact that for a brief shining moment Cal Logis armed with Tac ARs were the biggest threat on the field. And that you and many others jumped at the chance to exploit this imbalance. And now that CCP is wrangling the Cal Logi suit back into what the role they were designed for you're upset that you can't play as the be all and end all suit. It's so cathartic. Thank you for making me smile.
ok ok ok you caught me.
but wouldnt you be mad if they nerfed your god mode suit?
it really is only good for being an assault suit now lol. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:41:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Lol guys. You're being pretty premature with this. Having seen both the suit changes and some other changes that will be landing with them... I'm not convinced a respec is needed. Something to keep in mind, is from the blog post about logistics suits : Quote: These changes are intended to alleviate some of the current issues with the Logistics suits, but theyGÇÖre still not getting us where we want to be with the suits. A technical issue is currently preventing us from authoring suit bonuses that alter equipment functionality. When this is solved weGÇÖll be giving Logistics suits the bonuses they need to make their role truly shine.
Having been told what they want to do with the suits when they get the proper code in place... Anyone who says logistics suits will be useless/not worth using will be absolutely insane... They'll be outclassed somewhat by assaults (which is proper) but the utility they provided will be absolutely critical for competitive play, so people who specced into logi will be highly valued in PC and FW. Hang tight. Let them give you all the info before you go off shouting that CCP went and made useless ALL THE THINGS :)
that's cool and everything. but why take away my already taxed CPU? |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:49:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:
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ok ok ok you caught me.
but wouldnt you be mad if they nerfed your god mode suit?
it really is only good for being an assault suit now lol.
Ummm no!! Starter fits Exile militia shields, militia repper, militia nanohives, av grenade. Very low ISK and provides good entertainment versus folks that think proto is going to save them every time.
lol try the BPO staff recruiter militia suit with 2 shield extenders one PG upgrade exile fluxs and a compact nanohive. god mode for 8k isk xD <--- my pubstomp suit 24/7 |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:52:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Lol guys. You're being pretty premature with this. Having seen both the suit changes and some other changes that will be landing with them... I'm not convinced a respec is needed. Something to keep in mind, is from the blog post about logistics suits : Quote: These changes are intended to alleviate some of the current issues with the Logistics suits, but theyGÇÖre still not getting us where we want to be with the suits. A technical issue is currently preventing us from authoring suit bonuses that alter equipment functionality. When this is solved weGÇÖll be giving Logistics suits the bonuses they need to make their role truly shine.
Having been told what they want to do with the suits when they get the proper code in place... Anyone who says logistics suits will be useless/not worth using will be absolutely insane... They'll be outclassed somewhat by assaults (which is proper) but the utility they provided will be absolutely critical for competitive play, so people who specced into logi will be highly valued in PC and FW. Hang tight. Let them give you all the info before you go off shouting that CCP went and made useless ALL THE THINGS :) that's cool and everything. but why take away my already taxed CPU? TAXED CPU!? Stop sounding so damn spoiled, I'm glad you got nerfed. Stop thinking you deserve to run Proto Everything while other suits like the Amarr Logi have to sacrifice a ton just to run a decent Logi fit.
but but but.. my god mode.. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:54:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Well the tank petition is on 25 pages now and no dev replies wonder how persistent you guys are.
just because they dont reply doesnt mean they dont read. and BTdubbs, the proto tank isnt even out. your running in a basic tank whichever one you run. if your a little patient maybe they wont keep holding off on your tanks until the MTACs come out xD |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:03:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:There won't be a respec. confirmed by CCP.
where? |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:06:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:
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ok ok ok you caught me.
but wouldnt you be mad if they nerfed your god mode suit?
it really is only good for being an assault suit now lol.
Ummm no!! Starter fits Exile militia shields, militia repper, militia nanohives, av grenade. Very low ISK and provides good entertainment versus folks that think proto is going to save them every time. lol try the BPO staff recruiter militia suit with 2 shield extenders one PG upgrade exile fluxs and a compact nanohive. god mode for 8k isk xD <--- my pubstomp suit 24/7 Yeah thats good but most of my fits are under 2K and I am trying to convince myself to run basic but then why??
efficiancy. ive gotten pretty good at fitting out militia suits. if you need some help, hit me up in game. |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:09:00 -
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meh, well. division anyone? |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:12:00 -
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because they think that by us getting nerfed it, in relation, buffs thieir suit and they wont die by cal logis becausee we wont be able to "tank" hahahaha how wrong they are. good luck touching me ;) |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:40:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:because they think that by us getting nerfed it, in relation, buffs thieir suit and they wont die by cal logis becausee we wont be able to "tank" hahahaha how wrong they are. good luck touching me ;) inb4 Rampage re-reads dev blog and realizes base recharge delay was nerfed. lolz
i dont need to re-read because im not an ignoramous. i just know math. now lets look at numbers shall we?
Complex shield Regulator=25%x.25=30%x2=60%
8/.6= 3.2 seconds for fully depleted shields 6/.6= 2.4 seconds for damaged shields(close enough)
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:58:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:because they think that by us getting nerfed it, in relation, buffs thieir suit and they wont die by cal logis becausee we wont be able to "tank" hahahaha how wrong they are. good luck touching me ;) inb4 Rampage re-reads dev blog and realizes base recharge delay was nerfed. lolz i dont need to re-read because im not an ignoramous. i just know math. now lets look at numbers shall we? Complex shield Regulator=25%x.25=30%x2=60% 8/.6= 3.2 seconds for fully depleted shields 6/.6= 2.4 seconds for damaged shields(close enough) Hey assault suits still only get 1 equipment slot?
as far as i know, yes |
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