DUST Search - I really like FPS but i really don't like grinding.

Jade Dragonis wrote:

Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:

I have never like RPGs, That you have to grind to get SP. it's a strange place, Because the grind achieves nothing but 3 days wasted on a achievement... I can't not but stare, at people who said they competed(100% grind fest) a FF or some other JRPG, Thinking to myself well done... should he be kept by the tigers or the monkeys...? I really do like my MGS, I could sit in a box for many hours and enjoy, but Grinding?

Hell no!

people complain about everything, But SP gained in this game achieves one thing... not much. yes, there is a skills gap but it's not like all the SP is going into one class...

So I start the game max out my assault , where i'm I going to put my skills now? so, I chose to put my sp into a tank and max it out the worst thing to happen is i have two chooses when going into combat.

to get to my point is SP cap or No SP cap grinding is boring.

I was getting bored with the grind to. Even after a short time playing. I was lucky and found a good corp with loads of good people who are fun to play with.

Make some friends and run with them. Have a laugh and the grind goes away.

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Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 99	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:24:00 - [1] - Quote I have never like RPGs, That you have to grind to get SP. it's a strange place, Because the grind achieves nothing but 3 days wasted on a achievement... I can't not but stare, at people who said they competed(100% grind fest) a FF or some other JRPG, Thinking to myself well done... should he be kept by the tigers or the monkeys...? I really do like my MGS, I could sit in a box for many hours and enjoy, but Grinding? Hell no! people complain about everything, But SP gained in this game achieves one thing... not much. yes, there is a skills gap but it's not like all the SP is going into one class... So I start the game max out my assault , where i'm I going to put my skills now? so, I chose to put my sp into a tank and max it out the worst thing to happen is i have two chooses when going into combat. to get to my point is SP cap or No SP cap grinding is boring.
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 118	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:27:00 - [2] - Quote You are playing the wrong game then. Please wait till the new COD comes out then take your leave good sir.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 727	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:27:00 - [3] - Quote Remove active SP, buff passive SP. Done.
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War 2398	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:29:00 - [4] - Quote First, I would like to say you'll enjoy dust more when you stop trying to do nothing but SP grind. Second, maybe you should put your skills into AV or something, AV is bad WP by itself, but it's helpful when you just use it as an emergency fit to pull out.
Cosgar ParagonX 2803	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:32:00 - [5] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Remove active SP, buff passive SP. Done. I support this, but the game would need more content like PVE or nobody would bother to log in.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 620	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:32:00 - [6] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Remove active SP, buff passive SP. Done. I like this, except for the problem that Dust is free to play and PSN accounts are free to make. Sure the terms of agreement state that you are not allowed to have multiple accounts on multiple PSN accounts, but how is CCP supposed to enforce that? If skill points were entirely passive than might as well make as many PSN accounts as you can so you have a ton of Dust toons all keeping up to date with skill point gains.
Jaqen Morghalis Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 158	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:34:00 - [7] - Quote Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but no game will ever please everyone. If you don't like the grind in this game, I would suggest that you try to find a different game that IS more suited to your tastes. There are plenty of FPSs out there, I'm sure at least one of them will appeal to you. Good luck.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 161	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:36:00 - [8] - Quote We are 138 wrote: You are playing the wrong game then. Please wait till the new COD comes out then take your leave good sir. Here we go again. Another stupid Cod comment. How do you know he plays Cod or if he even likes it. Maybe he would prefer to play another game other than cod. You do not know and neither do I. Also, who cares if he does play cod. It is his business and not yours or mine.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 184	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:37:00 - [9] - Quote Sotapopthegrey gay wrote: I have never like RPGs, That you have to grind to get SP. it's a strange place, Because the grind achieves nothing but 3 days wasted on a achievement... I can't not but stare, at people who said they competed(100% grind fest) a FF or some other JRPG, Thinking to myself well done... should he be kept by the tigers or the monkeys...? I really do like my MGS, I could sit in a box for many hours and enjoy, but Grinding? Hell no! people complain about everything, But SP gained in this game achieves one thing... not much. yes, there is a skills gap but it's not like all the SP is going into one class... So I start the game max out my assault , where i'm I going to put my skills now? so, I chose to put my sp into a tank and max it out the worst thing to happen is i have two chooses when going into combat. to get to my point is SP cap or No SP cap grinding is boring. If you don't like grinding I would suggest running away while you can and make your way to one of other shooters on the market. Personally, while i'm not really a fan of grinding I don't mind this particular grind due to the game having EVE's skill system and customization. It adds a lot of depth for a FPS game. Sure it isn't on par with some RPG games, but for a shooter it is very good at that part.
Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH 77	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:40:00 - [10] - Quote Sotapopthegrey gay wrote: I have never like RPGs, That you have to grind to get SP. it's a strange place, Because the grind achieves nothing but 3 days wasted on a achievement... I can't not but stare, at people who said they competed(100% grind fest) a FF or some other JRPG, Thinking to myself well done... should he be kept by the tigers or the monkeys...? I really do like my MGS, I could sit in a box for many hours and enjoy, but Grinding? Hell no! people complain about everything, But SP gained in this game achieves one thing... not much. yes, there is a skills gap but it's not like all the SP is going into one class... So I start the game max out my assault , where i'm I going to put my skills now? so, I chose to put my sp into a tank and max it out the worst thing to happen is i have two chooses when going into combat. to get to my point is SP cap or No SP cap grinding is boring. I was getting bored with the grind to. Even after a short time playing. I was lucky and found a good corp with loads of good people who are fun to play with. Make some friends and run with them. Have a laugh and the grind goes away.

GTA-V FTW Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:43:00 - [11] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Remove active SP, buff passive SP. Done. This but not this. Well half of this, sort of. Not active SP but SP based off WP's earned during game. Also a buff to the passive.
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 99	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:44:00 - [12] - Quote Jade Dragonis wrote: Sotapopthegrey gay wrote: I have never like RPGs, That you have to grind to get SP. it's a strange place, Because the grind achieves nothing but 3 days wasted on a achievement... I can't not but stare, at people who said they competed(100% grind fest) a FF or some other JRPG, Thinking to myself well done... should he be kept by the tigers or the monkeys...? I really do like my MGS, I could sit in a box for many hours and enjoy, but Grinding? Hell no! people complain about everything, But SP gained in this game achieves one thing... not much. yes, there is a skills gap but it's not like all the SP is going into one class... So I start the game max out my assault , where i'm I going to put my skills now? so, I chose to put my sp into a tank and max it out the worst thing to happen is i have two chooses when going into combat. to get to my point is SP cap or No SP cap grinding is boring. I was getting bored with the grind to. Even after a short time playing. I was lucky and found a good corp with loads of good people who are fun to play with. Make some friends and run with them. Have a laugh and the grind goes away. been on this game for over a year, the grind wouldn't feel so great, if the game modes where there.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1481	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:50:00 - [13] - Quote We are 138 wrote: You are playing the wrong game then. Please wait till the new COD comes out then take your leave good sir. I was going to say this. What is next? Someone QQs that they like FPS but they dont like space themes in games.
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 99	Posted - 2013.07.18 17:56:00 - [14] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: We are 138 wrote: You are playing the wrong game then. Please wait till the new COD comes out then take your leave good sir. I was going to say this. What is next? Someone QQs that they like FPS but they dont like space themes in games. lost me? FPS games have no RPG elements in them. Now the hybrid FPS has. so your augment has no value, unless you said FPSRPG, That you didn't
Noc Tempre Internal Error. 2172	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:07:00 - [15] - Quote We are 138 wrote: You are playing the wrong game then. Please wait till the new COD comes out then take your leave good sir. You act like COD is a bad game... most of the criticism leveled against it is sitting on it's might high laurels.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6232	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:09:00 - [16] - Quote If you don't like grinding I would suggest quitting games all together... I mean that's is what they all boil down to. Making a decision and seeing if it fails, or it works then meeting the next problem over and over and over again.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3407	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:13:00 - [17] - Quote Halo 4 = Grinding CoD = Some Grinding Dust = More grinding Welcome to age of grinding.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. 672	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:13:00 - [18] - Quote Actually I agree grinding shouldnt be needed just to get your cap...you can grind if you like but it shouldnt be a requirement. Right now the grinding is so high people dont even bother. The SP cap should remain the same but the SP gain per game should be 2-3 times what we currently have. It should not take 10.5 - 11 hours to cap out your character. If this game is going to succeed this will have to be changed or the game will always be a small inconsequential segment of the FPS community.......IE Noone will care about it other than the couple thousand ppl who play the game.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1482	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:20:00 - [19] - Quote Sotapopthegrey gay wrote: Jin Robot wrote: We are 138 wrote: You are playing the wrong game then. Please wait till the new COD comes out then take your leave good sir. I was going to say this. What is next? Someone QQs that they like FPS but they dont like space themes in games. lost me? FPS games have no RPG elements in them. Now the hybrid FPS has. so your augment has no value, unless you said FPSRPG, That you didn't Lost you? Here is an example that might illuminate my point. John likes chocolate and coconut. John dislikes almonds. John goes to the store and looks at a Mounds and a Almond Joy. John buys a Almond Joy goes home and cries to Hershey about how he dislikes almonds. John is an idiot.
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 100	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:22:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: If you don't like grinding I would suggest quitting games all together... I mean that's is what they all boil down to. Making a decision and seeing if it fails, or it works then meeting the next problem over and over and over again. Yea, Your right but that type of grinding is fun. on the other hand Dust 514 grinding isn't ,that's what games are about right? fun... This game at the moment feels like a JRPG grind. I think it's about the game modes because all i'm doing is grinding day in, Day out.

soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 163	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:23:00 - [21] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Sotapopthegrey gay wrote: Jin Robot wrote: We are 138 wrote: You are playing the wrong game then. Please wait till the new COD comes out then take your leave good sir. I was going to say this. What is next? Someone QQs that they like FPS but they dont like space themes in games. lost me? FPS games have no RPG elements in them. Now the hybrid FPS has. so your augment has no value, unless you said FPSRPG, That you didn't Lost you? Here is an example that might illuminate my point. John likes chocolate and coconut. John dislikes almonds. John goes to the store and looks at a Mounds and a Almond Joy. John buys a Almond Joy goes home and cries to Hershey about how he dislikes almonds. John is an idiot. Sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don't.
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 101	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:28:00 - [22] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Sotapopthegrey gay wrote: Jin Robot wrote: We are 138 wrote: You are playing the wrong game then. Please wait till the new COD comes out then take your leave good sir. I was going to say this. What is next? Someone QQs that they like FPS but they dont like space themes in games. lost me? FPS games have no RPG elements in them. Now the hybrid FPS has. so your augment has no value, unless you said FPSRPG, That you didn't Lost you? Here is an example that might illuminate my point. John likes chocolate and coconut. John dislikes almonds. John goes to the store and looks at a Mounds and a Almond Joy. John buys a Almond Joy goes home and cries to Hershey about how he dislikes almonds. John is an idiot. Sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don't. Why he eating Hershey's when cadburys next him? Your right a idiot Always that glass and a half.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 464	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:29:00 - [23] - Quote Thing is the grind in this game is extreme, compared to RPGs. I've grinded in all FFs, but it doesn't take months to get what I want, compared to Dust.
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 101	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:32:00 - [24] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: Thing is the grind in this game is extreme, compared to RPGs. I've grinded in all FFs, but it doesn't take months to get what I want, compared to Dust. Your right its a extreme RPG. CCP bring back the fun!
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1483	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:33:00 - [25] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: Thing is the grind in this game is extreme, compared to RPGs. I've grinded in all FFs, but it doesn't take months to get what I want, compared to Dust. I feel more reward for it though, when I do get the item I have been skilling for. Plus CCP makes DUST, so I dont see why people are acting all surprised.
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 101	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:45:00 - [26] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: Thing is the grind in this game is extreme, compared to RPGs. I've grinded in all FFs, but it doesn't take months to get what I want, compared to Dust. I feel more reward for it though, when I do get the item I have been skilling for. Plus CCP makes DUST, so I dont see why people are acting all surprised. Not really because it starts all over again.
TITANIC Xangore Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 80	Posted - 2013.07.18 18:55:00 - [27] - Quote Sotapopthegrey gay wrote: I have never like RPGs, That you have to grind to get SP. it's a strange place, Because the grind achieves nothing but 3 days wasted on a achievement... I can't not but stare, at people who said they competed(100% grind fest) a FF or some other JRPG, Thinking to myself well done... should he be kept by the tigers or the monkeys...? I really do like my MGS, I could sit in a box for many hours and enjoy, but Grinding? Hell no! people complain about everything, But SP gained in this game achieves one thing... not much. yes, there is a skills gap but it's not like all the SP is going into one class... So I start the game max out my assault , where i'm I going to put my skills now? so, I chose to put my sp into a tank and max it out the worst thing to happen is i have two chooses when going into combat. to get to my point is SP cap or No SP cap grinding is boring. So you don't like MMOFPS games then....COD or Battlefield maybe? I'm not sure what you want. I personally love the fact this game has Sp and skill trees. it makes it interesting to me. it is what keeps me in this game. if it weren't for the SP rewards at the end of the match I wouldn't be playing this, I would be on DC Universe. I like the fact that my toon is different from yours. I like that I have more skill in one thing,and you have more in another, it makes it more realistic. Watch top shot once in a while, they have championship marksman, but hand them a weapon out of their experience (real life sp?) and it takes them a while to get it down. Same here, you can hand my sniper an AR and your AR toon will eat him up, but hand your AR toon a sniper rifle, and I'll get headshot after headshot before you figure out how to steady the rifle enough to fire it. That's the draw of the game. This is why it is different from other FPS games on the market. Even without the Eve tie in it sets it apart.
Nodo Qyrrg Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:17:00 - [28] - Quote If it feels like a grind "day in, day out", why play? It's not like there's an end-game waiting at the end of the rainbow. If you're just joining matches as the mini-game you have to do to skill your character, then the game you are playing is an RPG and not an FPS. A very boring RPG, at that. Get skills, buy equipment. Yay. Dust is designed as a game where you acquire skills to get better at the combat aspect, not one where you slog through combat to acquire skills. If you don't enjoy the battles then you're not going to enjoy Dust. Period. Not even when you've maxed every skill.
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 102	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:22:00 - [29] - Quote Nodo Qyrrg wrote: If it feels like a grind "day in, day out", why play? It's not like there's an end-game waiting at the end of the rainbow. If you're just joining matches as the mini-game you have to do to skill your character, then the game you are playing is an RPG and not an FPS. A very boring RPG, at that. Get skills, buy equipment. Yay. Dust is designed as a game where you acquire skills to get better at the combat aspect, not one where you slog through combat to acquire skills. If you don't enjoy the battles then you're not going to enjoy Dust. Period. Not even when you've maxed every skill. I really like the concept, but it's getting to the point when the grind is becoming the game. No new game modes, No new anything... Been playing this game for over a year and not much has changed.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 5053	Posted - 2013.07.18 19:52:00 - [30] - Quote Games are no longer about fun sadly, not just Dust, but the bulk of modern games. They try to addict you by making you grind as a way to force emotional investment. It makes me sad. In Dust its especially bad because it creates such a gap; this is because the skills aren't just to upgrade your character, but also to be able to use better gear. I hate grinding as well. Anyone who says some stupid ** about CoD should go ****** *** inside an epileptic cow's ** while *** a *** unitard.



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