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BL4CKST4R
warravens
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:47:00 -
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Thank you for applying a nerf to the weakest Logi suit in terms of HP and speed. Thanks for completely changing the Calogi from being a problem to the Caldari Assault while still not fixing armor suits. |
BL4CKST4R
warravens
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:54:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Shptgun Scouts vs Logi?
You joking?
I never died to a shotgun scout once in my logi fit, heck I had times when I was swarmed by 3 and I could still dodge them because the speed difference is nothing.
This is a joke right? I die from them all the time, only way I can kill them is be suiciding with a RE or Locus, or running away and placing a RE in a corridor. |
BL4CKST4R
warravens
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:03:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Iyllaria Dai wrote:Touchy McHealz wrote:Abloo bloo abloo bloo bloooo. This thread is making my day. Let me reiterate.
Logistics - one who heals, revives, supplies and supports.
Assault - one who kills.
How are you so butthurt that your role now works as intended? The only way you are whining this hard was by taking advantage of a faulty bonus that should never have made it past playtesting.
You want rage? Try being Gallente in EVE or DUST. Armour tanking is notoriously bad, underpowered and overlooked. EVE blasters/rainguns have been the laughing stock of the game for over 3 years and have just recently been fixed.
DUST has been "live" for a little under 3 months. Try wasting 4 years waiting for some attention. If you are this hurt then I HOPE you leave and come back. Go back to Halo or CoD or whatever FPS with an iWin button. The communtiy does not need you or want you. Have a super day! Funny since it is the assaults and all crying over " we can't win" so wanting the Iain button because their cod skills don't cut it in Dust. Let me ask you this,are you going to sit still and guard while we red someone, or are you going to watch our backs while we rep that heavy in front? No. So we have extra HP to compensate the fact we aren't always ready to shoot a round from our weapons. Try changing from a rep tool to your weapon while being shot at by a duvolle and tell me our 87 ehp more than that assault really make a difference. No instead you want to cry because toe to toe you may lose. Hell don't go head on then. Scouts don't cry they can't head on a heavy. Logo's rarely even head on a heavy. It's called battle tactics. Cal Logos had a good balance for their roles. Others needed better bonuses, not a Nerf to Cal's. Also Toyboi, you have no clue what your talking about. So do everyone a favor and stop. We have now essentially become scouts with no sidearm and brightly colored target suits and less speed. Bottom line is: balance between Assault and Logistics looks like this... sidearm vs equipment more speed and stamina vs higher EHP the first one is working as intended but now Caldari and Gallente logis are slower than assault with about the same EHP. less in the case of Caldari Assault. ...but Gallente can use better and more equipment
Well if CCP is going to remove Logi survivability then might as well make us faster and give us a sidearm. My suit is way to expensive to be dropped instantly because people assume i am a better slayer. Assault should be made to kill and Logistics to survive, a dead Logi is a bad Logi. Also in terms of EHP accounting for speed and damage modifiers Amarr and Gallente logistics have the lowest survivability.
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BL4CKST4R
warravens
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:59:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Iyllaria Dai wrote:Toyboi wrote:Iyllaria Dai wrote:Touchy McHealz wrote:Abloo bloo abloo bloo bloooo. This thread is making my day. Let me reiterate.
Logistics - one who heals, revives, supplies and supports.
Assault - one who kills.
How are you so butthurt that your role now works as intended? The only way you are whining this hard was by taking advantage of a faulty bonus that should never have made it past playtesting.
You want rage? Try being Gallente in EVE or DUST. Armour tanking is notoriously bad, underpowered and overlooked. EVE blasters/rainguns have been the laughing stock of the game for over 3 years and have just recently been fixed.
DUST has been "live" for a little under 3 months. Try wasting 4 years waiting for some attention. If you are this hurt then I HOPE you leave and come back. Go back to Halo or CoD or whatever FPS with an iWin button. The communtiy does not need you or want you. Have a super day! Funny since it is the assaults and all crying over " we can't win" so wanting the Iwin button because their cod skills don't cut it in Dust. Let me ask you this,are you going to sit still and guard while we res someone, or are you going to watch our backs while we rep that heavy in front? No. So we have extra HP to compensate the fact we aren't always ready to shoot a round from our weapons. Try changing from a rep tool to your weapon while being shot at by a duvolle and tell me our 87 ehp more than that assault really make a difference. No instead you want to cry because toe to toe you may lose. Hell don't go head on then. Scouts don't cry they can't head on a heavy. Logi's rarely even head on a heavy. It's called battle tactics. Cal Logi's had a good balance for their roles. Others needed better bonuses, not a Nerf to Cal's. Also Toyboi, you have no clue what your talking about. So do everyone a favor and stop. We have now essentially become scouts with no sidearm and brightly colored target suits and less speed. who the **** are you?? ill do everyone a favor and call out bs when i see it! if you are a logi i would argue that you are biased. if not i dont know what your excuse is... Again just wait and see! this nerf is a joke! you will still be able to rolfstomp assaults Call what you like. I run Logi and Heavy currently, ran Assault last build. So I have experience and can speak first hand. I know my role as Logi and do it very well. However with Proto gear, my suit costs more than a similar assault and with the changes why would I risk that cost now to save someone who has QQ'd to make me more likely to die saving them? Always love the "who are you" line when you fail at your argument. Let's just say I don't like to post on the forums for the sake of seeing my words like some do. You're right, I will likely still be able to own my fair share of assaults. Not because my suit is OP, but because I have the skill to do so. Likewise, a fair share will still continue to do likewise with good builds and good skills that don't come from COD expecting this to be the same game of bullet spam. I provided a link in my past posts to show just what the difference is. There were many better ways to fix the assault role of the Logi's. Weapon restrictions, reduction of Shield % per level, removal of one high and exchange for 4th equipment, etc. However, with the 20CPU AND reduction from shield efficacy to recharge, we are just as likely to die as a scout, perhaps more so do to the loss of speed we have.
So it seems you're the one biased. We obviously can tell your an assault. You want to be the one owning everyone without opposition obviously. Hyperbole much? CCP could make equipment cheaper to balance out the cost in suits if that is what you are worried about. But the argument that Logis's need to be super durable is a false one. Logis should depend on their squad for cover to do their job, the same way a scout needs a squad to be the distraction so they can flank or they have to run and hide. I sympathise with you because from your posts it seems you are fitting out your suits correctly but the abuse of the logi suit to be able to do other roles better than the specialist at those roles is CCP's big design flaw. Giving them all those slots and not seeing how players would abuse them to be masters of whatever domain they choose is the real issue.
Logistics do need higher survivability, if the point of a Logi is to provide support while the squad defends might as well remove the nanite injector since once your squad dies its useless, and by extension the Logi is useless. We cannot provide support if we cannot stay alive, besides if the Logi is nerfed to where his survival depends on the squad then a squad of assaults don't really need a logi if they all synchronize with different equipment, for example a squad of 6 assaults 2 with repair tools 2 with injectors and the other two with whatever they want completely eliminates the need to defend a Logi suit and allows for more DPS in the field; but if the Logi is self sufficient and can defend himself then he is an essential team member not a burden. Also the scout is severely UP. |
BL4CKST4R
warravens
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:36:00 -
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Chilled Pill wrote:I love how us Scouts are the benchmark of what it means to have a crap suit. :|
I don't see what you're complaining about Logibros. Man the f up. You all knew the good times won't last forever. Hopefully, our 'bad times' as Scouts won't as well.
My Gallente Logi suit never had "good times" |
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