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Daxxis KANNAH
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:23:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm too lazy to look it up, but there was a topic during E3 talking about Dust being on the PS4 where IWS seemed to be trying to say something without outright saying it, most likely due to NDA restrictions. One thing that stuck out was that he outright said that Dust won't be on the Unreal engine if it moves to PS4. It has been confirmed several times that CCP has their own engine called Carbon. Supposedly, it is going to be a lot better than Unreal. The PS3 can't take Carbon without blowing up, and even Eve is supposed to be on Carbon. Going to carbon is the best move for dust. Sounds like **** poor programming to me if they cant make it work Hell, the FOX engine can run on these 7th gen consoles without blowing them up When a game requires military grade hardware just to maintain a server, you have to make some sacrifices along the way to stay on schedule. It's pretty obvious that U3 was a last minute change and doesn't function for the kind of game Dust is trying to be. On paper, the PS4 specs look like they can accommodate a demanding engine like Carbon, so it's only a matter of time to see what CCP comes up with.
It is a widely accepted that PS3 is difficult to develop for so I dont understand why you would stay with it and continue to kill yourself when a better platform will be out in a couple months. Especially with our paltry numbers I would think its just best to blow it up and move.
That is all going on the assumption that they are still messing with Carbon or another engine for the PS4 which would make everything easier.
Also - Fox Engine was developed by people that probably code PS3 better than Sony themselves so you cant really blame others who struggle on available engines. |
Daxxis KANNAH
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:50:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:It is a widely accepted that PS3 is difficult to develop for so I dont understand why you would stay with it and continue to kill yourself when a better platform will be out in a couple months. Especially with our paltry numbers I would think its just best to blow it up and move.
That is all going on the assumption that they are still messing with Carbon or another engine for the PS4 which would make everything easier.
Also - Fox Engine was developed by people that probably code PS3 better than Sony themselves so you cant really blame others who struggle on available engines. I've been following Dust since 2009 and the one thing I remember is that they approached Microsoft first. The deal breaker is that they wanted the game to run on their servers. That's why it's on the PS3.
That would have been great for us but I understand why CCP wouldnt want that.
Imagine if they went back to MS and stuck everything in Azure but once again CCP wouldnt do that because MS would mess with their payment structure and most likely also mess with EVE-Dust interaction , or even allow it at all.
I understood the goal of being on PS3 for years but as it stands it just seems like death of a thousand cuts when a better solution is screaming to be used. Sony allowed F2P games to be outside the paywall, the architecture is the closest to PC of any console generation, the console has massive resources and your dedicated fanbase will follow you no matter what, plus you can reintroduce yourself to a wider audience.
I would shoot for sometime next year, possibly summer with a slew of new content.
Once again - going on the assumption that they have PS4 dev kits or at least running the game under a similar environment |
Daxxis KANNAH
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:56:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Delta 749 wrote:And what kind of game is it trying to be because Im sure I could find a game using U3 thats an example of that type of game since it gets licensed out so often and what exactly does the Carbon engine do thats so special that they cant make a good product without it aside from it being their most familiar tool Something along the lines of this, and this. So in defense of Dust you link me to cinematic trailers that could come from almost literally any FPS?
hehehehe
The game looks nothing like this except for the warbarge room.
If that isnt just fluff cgi tricks then something like that should drop on PS4 / PC in the near future.
IS CCP in the desert practicing their kung fu???? because what we have isnt fooling anyone. |
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