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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.17 06:35:00 -
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wherein my dropship has maxed everything and best EHP, 17 mil SP and cost 1.5 mil.
But when I find a LAV on the ground with no driver, no gunner, it's not moving, it's not shooting back, it can't LOS me....
It takes 3x longer to kill than my DS would.
Wat? |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
332
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Posted - 2013.07.17 06:51:00 -
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Quick question: armor or shield? And which weapon were you using to determine this? (I'm assuming you used a non-AV weapon but I could be wrong...)
Also, you might want to bring up that we have BPO LAVs but not BPO Dropships. I believe that needs to be reversed.  |
Shooty McDangerman
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:03:00 -
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Dropships desperately need an hp buff. It's such an easy fix I don't get why the devs haven't done it already. I think the whole community agrees that they are too fragile at the moment.
I run an assault forge gun fit 90% of the time. Dropships almost always go down in two shots. The tanked out ones take three max. The ship is dead before the pilots can even react most of the time. Honestly I feel bad how easy they are to take out.
Now compare that to Logi Lavs. I found a Charybdis the other day that took me 4 shots to kill. The first three shots didn't even break the shields. And the only reason I was able to hit the thing was because I shot out the driver while he was trying to crush me.
Dropships definitely need more health to be viable. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
916
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:43:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Quick question: armor or shield? And which weapon were you using to determine this? (I'm assuming you used a non-AV weapon but I could be wrong...) Also, you might want to bring up that we have BPO LAVs but not BPO Dropships. I believe that needs to be reversed.
There shouldn't be BPO anythings. period |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
916
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:56:00 -
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Shooty McDangerman wrote:Dropships desperately need an hp buff. It's such an easy fix I don't get why the devs haven't done it already. I think the whole community agrees that they are too fragile at the moment.
I run an assault forge gun fit 90% of the time. Dropships almost always go down in two shots. The tanked out ones take three max. The ship is dead before the pilots can even react most of the time. Honestly I feel bad how easy they are to take out.
Now compare that to Logi Lavs. I found a Charybdis the other day that took me 4 shots to kill. The first three shots didn't even break the shields. And the only reason I was able to hit the thing was because I shot out the driver while he was trying to crush me.
Dropships definitely need more health to be viable.
That's what I'm saying.
Basically LAV's normally are moving fast and can LOS around ground objects or terrain. DS has no cover. Its harder to kill an AFK lav vehicle by itself than an actively piloted ds. idgi |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
332
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Posted - 2013.07.17 08:20:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Quick question: armor or shield? And which weapon were you using to determine this? (I'm assuming you used a non-AV weapon but I could be wrong...) Also, you might want to bring up that we have BPO LAVs but not BPO Dropships. I believe that needs to be reversed. There shouldn't be BPO anythings. period
*hides BPO's from sight* get away you. :P
In all honesty though, I can see your point on no BPO's. But I don't want to let mine go! 
I should try that this week though. Erase all the fittings I have and use ISK variants. Including my free LAV.
Back on topic, didn't they give a health buff across the board to everything but Dropships? Why can't they just buff the health on Dropships? |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
335
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Posted - 2013.07.17 08:31:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Quick question: armor or shield? And which weapon were you using to determine this? (I'm assuming you used a non-AV weapon but I could be wrong...) Also, you might want to bring up that we have BPO LAVs but not BPO Dropships. I believe that needs to be reversed. There shouldn't be BPO anythings. period *hides BPO's from sight* get away you. :P In all honesty though, I can see your point on no BPO's. But I don't want to let mine go! I should try that this week though. Erase all the fittings I have and use ISK variants. Including my free LAV. Back on topic, didn't they give a health buff across the board to everything but Dropships? Why can't they just buff the health on Dropships?
wait... you have not done that yet...
DUDE ....
wow...
i mean i did not get rid of my Blue print lav but i put some mods on it man =/
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3340
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:48:00 -
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Back when LAVs were fairly balanced, someone, somewhere in CCP, thought they were too weak. When tanks got a 25% HP buff to balance out the loss of direct HP increasing skills, LAVs were given 60%, and the already-underpowered Dropships got.... wait for it.... NOTHING. |
Jackof All-Trades
Bojo's School of the Trades
156
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:49:00 -
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LAV: Low health high speed
MAV: Moderate health and speed
HAV: High health low speed
Fighters: Low health high speed
Dropships: Moderate health and speed
Gunship: High health and low speed
Currently Dropships do have less health than LAVs, and this makes so sense. Yes, flying vehicles are more maneuverable, but should that really justify the EHP nerf?
That's the question that should be asked here. |
Son Down
SamsClub
45
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:53:00 -
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Dropships don't need a "buff", rather Logi LAV's much like Logi suits need to be severely hampered or removed altogether. Rarely are they used for their actual purpose, but have turned into a scrub player weapon. |
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Taurion Bruni
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
141
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:03:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:LAV: Low health high speed
MAV: Moderate health and speed
HAV: High health low speed
Fighters: Low health high speed
Dropships: Moderate health and speed
Gunship: High health and low speed
Currently Dropships do have less health than LAVs, and this makes so sense. Yes, flying vehicles are more maneuverable, but should that really justify the EHP nerf?
That's the question that should be asked here.
BPO lav ;
Class: light attack vehicle
Basic description: forgoes protection to gain speed, used to launch surprise attacks in groups (see in game description)
Basic shields: 1072
ADV python;
Class: medium arial vehicle
Basic description: able to drop and pick up players in and out of heavy fire, while providing supporting fire
Basic shields: 1120
To accomplish what the dropship was made for, they need more ehp to last longer than 5 sec before I need to gtfo, and spend a minute repping my shields. |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
302
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:06:00 -
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Hopefully tomorrows vehicle blog (or the next day) will address these issues. My vehicle character has been sitting on the back burner (using cheapo sica's and shotgun fits) for way too long. >_<
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Remember: IamI3rian told ya.
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