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Reno Pechieu
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.07.16 22:33:00 -
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There should be a slight time delay from getting into a vehicle and the time you can operate it (assuming you are behind the wheels), and it should also be based on what kind of suit youGÇÖre using:
Heavy suit take longer time than Light suit, and the upcoming Pilot suits having the lowest time delay of them all.
Keep in mind that this is only being able operate it, meaning you have still entered the vehicle you just need some time to be able to control it. This should also count for vehicle mounted turrets. |
TheEnd762
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2013.07.17 00:08:00 -
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+1 because I love sniping drivers, but I hate that the vehicle can start moving before they're registered as in the seat. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
391
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Posted - 2013.07.17 00:15:00 -
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That'll kill vehicle fights, and as soon as we're in the driving sest, we ARE in control of the vehicle. No.
Peace, Godin  |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
446
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Posted - 2013.07.17 00:18:00 -
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no
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Reno Pechieu
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.07.17 00:27:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:That'll kill vehicle fights, and as soon as we're in the driving sest, we ARE in control of the vehicle. No. Peace, Godin
Then you use a pilot-suit 
Getting into a vehicle doesnGÇÖt automatic mean you have the necessary control to maneuverer it right away, especially when you are in a Heavy-suit.
You sacrificed dexterity for body protection, suck it up. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
392
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Posted - 2013.07.17 01:13:00 -
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Reno Pechieu wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:That'll kill vehicle fights, and as soon as we're in the driving sest, we ARE in control of the vehicle. No. Peace, Godin Then you use a pilot-suit Getting into a vehicle doesnGÇÖt automatic mean you have the necessary control to maneuverer it right away, especially when you are in a Heavy-suit. You sacrificed dexterity for body protection, suck it up.
You are talking to a guy who's main is a pilot. Plus, I wasn't entirely clear to you (my bad); When you sit in the seat, or grab that gun, you insrantly know how to use it. It's programed into your head. Also, the vehicle itself hooks into the.socket at the base of your neck, allowing for smaller crews to operate it at same, or even higher efficenty.
Peace, Godin |
Reno Pechieu
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:54:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Reno Pechieu wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:That'll kill vehicle fights, and as soon as we're in the driving sest, we ARE in control of the vehicle. No. Peace, Godin Then you use a pilot-suit Getting into a vehicle doesnGÇÖt automatic mean you have the necessary control to maneuverer it right away, especially when you are in a Heavy-suit. You sacrificed dexterity for body protection, suck it up. You are talking to a guy who's main is a pilot. Plus, I wasn't entirely clear to you (my bad); When you sit in the seat, or grab that gun, you insrantly know how to use it. It's programed into your head. Also, the vehicle itself hooks into the.socket at the base of your neck, allowing for smaller crews to operate it at same, or even higher efficenty. Peace, Godin
Then I would recommend a pilot-suit when they are implemented.
Regarding pre-programming, where do you get that information from? There has been nothing in Dust lore that would indicate that all the mercenaries have programed knowledge how to use every weapon and equipment (there is always talk of training a new skill, not downloading).
Furthermore, regarding hocking ourselves up:
- The LAV is show to have a stearin-wheel, thus indicating manual control.
- Even if it was a hock-up procedure, that would just support my case. Different suit are shown to have different properties; e.g. all Logistics suit all have a +1 HP regen. pr. level and the Minmatar Logi have a +5% hack speed increase each level, thus proving that not all suit interface with things at the same speed.
And if was never about how fast two virtual systems could integrate with each other, but how fast a solider in full battle-gear manages to get into the driving seat and have reasonable control.
You canGÇÖt honestly expect anyone to believe that a Heavy-suit, which canGÇÖt even jump up to a ledge less than half a meter to save its own life, can effortlessly jump into a vehicle and have full (manual) control of it in less than a split second.
And by the way:
Peace is a lie. |
Void Echo
Internal Error.
League of Infamy
720
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:05:00 -
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Reno Pechieu wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Reno Pechieu wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:That'll kill vehicle fights, and as soon as we're in the driving sest, we ARE in control of the vehicle. No. Peace, Godin Then you use a pilot-suit Getting into a vehicle doesnGÇÖt automatic mean you have the necessary control to maneuverer it right away, especially when you are in a Heavy-suit. You sacrificed dexterity for body protection, suck it up. You are talking to a guy who's main is a pilot. Plus, I wasn't entirely clear to you (my bad); When you sit in the seat, or grab that gun, you insrantly know how to use it. It's programed into your head. Also, the vehicle itself hooks into the.socket at the base of your neck, allowing for smaller crews to operate it at same, or even higher efficenty. Peace, Godin Then I would recommend a pilot-suit when they are implemented. Regarding pre-programming, where do you get that information from? There has been nothing in Dust lore that would indicate that all the mercenaries have programed knowledge how to use every weapon and equipment (there is always talk of training a new skill, not downloading). Furthermore, regarding hocking ourselves up:
- The LAV is show to have a stearin-wheel, thus indicating manual control.
- Even if it was a hock-up procedure, that would just support my case. Different suit are shown to have different properties; e.g. all Logistics suit all have a +1 HP regen. pr. level and the Minmatar Logi have a +5% hack speed increase each level, thus proving that not all suit interface with things at the same speed.
And if was never about how fast two virtual systems could integrate with each other, but how fast a solider in full battle-gear manages to get into the driving seat and have reasonable control. You canGÇÖt honestly expect anyone to believe that a Heavy-suit, which canGÇÖt even jump up to a ledge less than half a meter to save its own life, can effortlessly jump into a vehicle and have full (manual) control of it in less than a split second. And by the way: I'm a complete idiot
fixed it for you |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
72
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:18:00 -
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+1 just for the heck of it. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
393
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:28:00 -
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You must have not read Templar One then. Oh well, I'm just writing you off as a bluedot and will keep on walking.
Peace, Godin |
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Reno Pechieu
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:30:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:You must have not read Templar One then. Oh well, I'm just writing you off as a bluedot and will keep on walking. Peace, Godin
Resorting to straw man fallacies tactics are we? (As well as poorly Ad Hominem attack)
You have yet to produce any good argument how a bulky Heavy-suit, which during the rest of the gameplay is shown to have reduced mobility, manages to effortlessly both enter a vehicle and begin operating it within the blink of the eye.
In fact, you havenGÇÖt managed to give any arguments of substance.
Based on this; yes, it would be best if you kept on walking, as I am beginning to suspect you have nothing worthwhile to contribute to this discussion. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Z.G.R.B
513
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:50:00 -
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before people shoot their guns, there should be a short delay, so that they can check if th safety is off and mag clip is inserted.
Heavy suit take longer time than Light suit,
Keep in mind that this is only being able operate it, meaning you have still have the weapon you just need some time to be able to control it. |
Reno Pechieu
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:08:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:before people shoot their guns, there should be a short delay, so that they can check if th safety is off and mag clip is inserted.
Heavy suit take longer time than Light suit,
Keep in mind that this is only being able operate it, meaning you have still have the weapon you just need some time to be able to control it.
Another straw man argument?
Really?...
You are trying (pretty pathetically) to compare that checking if the safety is off on a weapon to that of entering a vehicle in full battle-gear and immediate be able to operate it full in the blink of an eye?
Really?
Your argument is bad, and as I already pointed out; itGÇÖs a blatant attempt at a straw man.
One could make the argument that changing a weapon would be more cumbersome the more armour you had or the bigger the weapon is, and I would say that would actually be an interesting development. But it has no place in this topic, which is about a time delay when entering vehicles.
I see no point in having the current state, people driving in on LAVs. If one gets to a high ground, they can jump out and fire right away (so far okey). But if other gains the upper hand, they can instantly teleport into the LAV and drive away, effetely having two shields.
This suggestion would promote more team-work; if you want to have a getaway car that can drive off the instant you need to escape, you get yourself a wheelman who waits with the engine running.
If you drive in alone and jump out, then itGÇÖs a risk you take. If youGÇÖre wearing heavier suits, then it takes a bit longer to get fully seated, but you have more personal armour to survive while someone attacks.
Lighter suits uses less time, but with the gamble that a lucky hit into the seat can take one out.
This game is about making smart tactical choices and also teamwork. |
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