DUST Search - Seriously....?

Marston VC wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

I mean... Seriously..? This is what it all amounts to..? No-wonder I got first running an all BPO Scout....

http://i.imgur.com/ddeJC0p.jpg

This is just depressing. Im so burnt out on Dust because of this silly event (100 installations/hacks is BEYOND rough dude) and this just makes me want to give up entirely. Beyond the games notable annoyances like murder taxis, contact grenades etc its hard to keep going when you see something like this.

Word of warning CCP, a good way to losethe interest of the masses is to give them such a large incentive as 100 Falchions for ridiculous challenges. It practically forces the player to endure the repetitive grind and try to push through all the little things that you get tired of after five games.

I can only get by on this thinking these players were all going for Kills/Assists to meet the endof the challenge, as this occured after all the installations were destroyed, but im hard pressed to believe it.

honestly..... i would have laughed my ass off after seeing this, right before i went up to join them. Whats the point of playing out the game if 9 of your team mates are just going to sniper bang everyone? there is none..... NOT that it matters. What do you want from CCP? What can they do to stop people from redline sniping?? IF there not sniping in the redline they'll snipe on a tower in the middle of the map. Same problem, different location. Its like this for loads of games, so i mean..... i don't think its anything you should get sooo upset about.

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Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2036	Posted - 2013.07.16 06:34:00 - [1] - Quote I mean... Seriously..? This is what it all amounts to..? No-wonder I got first running an all BPO Scout.... http://i.imgur.com/ddeJC0p.jpg This is just depressing. Im so burnt out on Dust because of this silly event (100 installations/hacks is BEYOND rough dude) and this just makes me want to give up entirely. Beyond the games notable annoyances like murder taxis, contact grenades etc its hard to keep going when you see something like this. Word of warning CCP, a good way to losethe interest of the masses is to give them such a large incentive as 100 Falchions for ridiculous challenges. It practically forces the player to endure the repetitive grind and try to push through all the little things that you get tired of after five games. I can only get by on this thinking these players were all going for Kills/Assists to meet the endof the challenge, as this occured after all the installations were destroyed, but im hard pressed to believe it.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 73	Posted - 2013.07.16 06:41:00 - [2] - Quote I hate when that happens. You go to fight over the objectives and get your ass handed to you. You wonder why your outnumbered and then you look at the map to see most of your team being blue berries. But this kind of behavior isn't limited to the event. Its what happens when you get stuck with the weak and quitters.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 281	Posted - 2013.07.16 07:14:00 - [3] - Quote What are you talking about, man? Those are some seriously dangerous battle tactics there..... I would not mess with a team of those blueberries.... Yeah, F those guys. You'll never see me up there like that.... I'm doing fine on the ground. The only thing for me that's not even gonna happen is the installation destructions. I've got 2. I think it's a bit unfair, and this event gives people the incentive to forgo team work ever more than usual this week, and that is a shame.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 732	Posted - 2013.07.16 07:17:00 - [4] - Quote not even bothered with the installation destruction lol
sammus420 Goonfeet Top Men. 218	Posted - 2013.07.16 07:18:00 - [5] - Quote Climb the hills, stand directly behind them, and call in an LAV. Then stand a few feet away and giggle wildly to yourself. That's what I do.
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 367	Posted - 2013.07.16 07:26:00 - [6] - Quote The funniest thing is when you say screw it and go in there anyway there's absolutely zero supporting fire from that full team of snipers or they're shooting so wide there might as well not be any. Almost makes me think that they're embarrassed to afk so they just pretend they're sniping. Mostly just becomes about Active Scanning to evade the blob, speed hacking nodes that're clear enough, dropping DUs in good places in the vain hope that someone, anyone, will try to give you a bit of support on the ground... occasionally it does actually resuscitate a team when they see points being contested and are given a quick portal into the action. More often than not they'll be content to give up the match though.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2038	Posted - 2013.07.16 07:33:00 - [7] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: The funniest thing is when you say screw it and go in there anyway there's absolutely zero supporting fire from that full team of snipers or they're shooting so wide there might as well not be any. Almost makes me think that they're embarrassed to afk so they just pretend they're sniping. Mostly just becomes about Active Scanning to evade the blob, speed hacking nodes that're clear enough, dropping DUs in good places in the vain hope that someone, anyone, will try to give you a bit of support on the ground... occasionally it does actually resuscitate a team when they see points being contested and are given a quick portal into the action. More often than not they'll be content to give up the match though. Id love to sit down with Nullabor and explain that no amountof match making changes are going to fix this problem but I can still hope. Theres just way too many things out there that give an unfair advantage and thats not going to change untiltheyre fixed. And you know theyre trolling the players when they implemented a 50% off sale on Contact Grenades and still havent implemented ISK variants.
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 205	Posted - 2013.07.16 07:50:00 - [8] - Quote you know its not like they all decide to do this at once... its a domino effect a few at a time as the pub stomping starts and the team sees more and more of their team go to the red line....its a real shame and I blame CCP...
hooc order Deep Space Republic Top Men. 688	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:13:00 - [9] - Quote lulz classic image. I have one of 4 snipers in the MCC...saving that one for when i am an old timer (if this game lasts long enough)
hooc order Deep Space Republic Top Men. 688	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:16:00 - [10] - Quote Quote: Id love to sit down with Nullabor and explain that no amount of match making changes are going to fix this problem Matchmaking is not supposed to fix this problem. it is supposed to fix an entirely different problem.

Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 19	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:29:00 - [11] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: The funniest thing is when you say screw it and go in there anyway there's absolutely zero supporting fire from that full team of snipers or they're shooting so wide there might as well not be any. Almost makes me think that they're embarrassed to afk so they just pretend they're sniping. Mostly just becomes about Active Scanning to evade the blob, speed hacking nodes that're clear enough, dropping DUs in good places in the vain hope that someone, anyone, will try to give you a bit of support on the ground... occasionally it does actually resuscitate a team when they see points being contested and are given a quick portal into the action. More often than not they'll be content to give up the match though. Hey there comrade - Refreshing to see I'm not the only one thinking like this instead of worrying about my K/D ratio. :)
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 19	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:30:00 - [12] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Poplo Furuya wrote: The funniest thing is when you say screw it and go in there anyway there's absolutely zero supporting fire from that full team of snipers or they're shooting so wide there might as well not be any. Almost makes me think that they're embarrassed to afk so they just pretend they're sniping. Mostly just becomes about Active Scanning to evade the blob, speed hacking nodes that're clear enough, dropping DUs in good places in the vain hope that someone, anyone, will try to give you a bit of support on the ground... occasionally it does actually resuscitate a team when they see points being contested and are given a quick portal into the action. More often than not they'll be content to give up the match though. Id love to sit down with Nullabor and explain that no amountof match making changes are going to fix this problem but I can still hope. Theres just way too many things out there that give an unfair advantage and thats not going to change untiltheyre fixed. And you know theyre trolling the players when they implemented a 50% off sale on Contact Grenades and still havent implemented ISK variants. I did think that today it was weird them discounting those grenades... maybe it's the last chance to stock up!!!! :P
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2039	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:34:00 - [13] - Quote Justicar Karnellia wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Poplo Furuya wrote: The funniest thing is when you say screw it and go in there anyway there's absolutely zero supporting fire from that full team of snipers or they're shooting so wide there might as well not be any. Almost makes me think that they're embarrassed to afk so they just pretend they're sniping. Mostly just becomes about Active Scanning to evade the blob, speed hacking nodes that're clear enough, dropping DUs in good places in the vain hope that someone, anyone, will try to give you a bit of support on the ground... occasionally it does actually resuscitate a team when they see points being contested and are given a quick portal into the action. More often than not they'll be content to give up the match though. Id love to sit down with Nullabor and explain that no amountof match making changes are going to fix this problem but I can still hope. Theres just way too many things out there that give an unfair advantage and thats not going to change untiltheyre fixed. And you know theyre trolling the players when they implemented a 50% off sale on Contact Grenades and still havent implemented ISK variants. I did think that today it was weird them discounting those grenades... maybe it's the last chance to stock up!!!! :P I doubt it. Despitea petition for their removal and a number of CPM reps expressing that they dont belong in the game CCP insists on them remaining for some reason.
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 396	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:38:00 - [14] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Justicar Karnellia wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Poplo Furuya wrote: The funniest thing is when you say screw it and go in there anyway there's absolutely zero supporting fire from that full team of snipers or they're shooting so wide there might as well not be any. Almost makes me think that they're embarrassed to afk so they just pretend they're sniping. Mostly just becomes about Active Scanning to evade the blob, speed hacking nodes that're clear enough, dropping DUs in good places in the vain hope that someone, anyone, will try to give you a bit of support on the ground... occasionally it does actually resuscitate a team when they see points being contested and are given a quick portal into the action. More often than not they'll be content to give up the match though. Id love to sit down with Nullabor and explain that no amountof match making changes are going to fix this problem but I can still hope. Theres just way too many things out there that give an unfair advantage and thats not going to change untiltheyre fixed. And you know theyre trolling the players when they implemented a 50% off sale on Contact Grenades and still havent implemented ISK variants. I did think that today it was weird them discounting those grenades... maybe it's the last chance to stock up!!!! :P I doubt it. Despitea petition for their removal and a number of CPM reps expressing that they dont belong in the game CCP insists on them remaining for some reason. Hard currency maybe?
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1280	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:40:00 - [15] - Quote Red-line snipers happens all the time, SPECIALLY in that map... i mean, really, that map is Red-line snipers paradise.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 319	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:47:00 - [16] - Quote The fact that better equipment potentially generate less profit than the cheaper one sounds a little stupid
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 583	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:54:00 - [17] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I mean... Seriously..? This is what it all amounts to..? No-wonder I got first running an all BPO Scout.... http://i.imgur.com/ddeJC0p.jpg This is just depressing. Im so burnt out on Dust because of this silly event (100 installations/hacks is BEYOND rough dude) and this just makes me want to give up entirely. Beyond the games notable annoyances like murder taxis, contact grenades etc its hard to keep going when you see something like this. Word of warning CCP, a good way to losethe interest of the masses is to give them such a large incentive as 100 Falchions for ridiculous challenges. It practically forces the player to endure the repetitive grind and try to push through all the little things that you get tired of after five games. I can only get by on this thinking these players were all going for Kills/Assists to meet the endof the challenge, as this occured after all the installations were destroyed, but im hard pressed to believe it. honestly..... i would have laughed my ass off after seeing this, right before i went up to join them. Whats the point of playing out the game if 9 of your team mates are just going to sniper bang everyone? there is none..... NOT that it matters. What do you want from CCP? What can they do to stop people from redline sniping?? IF there not sniping in the redline they'll snipe on a tower in the middle of the map. Same problem, different location. Its like this for loads of games, so i mean..... i don't think its anything you should get sooo upset about.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 1993	Posted - 2013.07.16 08:57:00 - [18] - Quote I hate snipers in this game. They do nothing for the team and they're just irritating to fight against.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2041	Posted - 2013.07.16 09:29:00 - [19] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I mean... Seriously..? This is what it all amounts to..? No-wonder I got first running an all BPO Scout.... http://i.imgur.com/ddeJC0p.jpg This is just depressing. Im so burnt out on Dust because of this silly event (100 installations/hacks is BEYOND rough dude) and this just makes me want to give up entirely. Beyond the games notable annoyances like murder taxis, contact grenades etc its hard to keep going when you see something like this. Word of warning CCP, a good way to losethe interest of the masses is to give them such a large incentive as 100 Falchions for ridiculous challenges. It practically forces the player to endure the repetitive grind and try to push through all the little things that you get tired of after five games. I can only get by on this thinking these players were all going for Kills/Assists to meet the endof the challenge, as this occured after all the installations were destroyed, but im hard pressed to believe it. honestly..... i would have laughed my ass off after seeing this, right before i went up to join them. Whats the point of playing out the game if 9 of your team mates are just going to sniper bang everyone? there is none..... NOT that it matters. What do you want from CCP? What can they do to stop people from redline sniping?? IF there not sniping in the redline they'll snipe on a tower in the middle of the map. Same problem, different location. Its like this for loads of games, so i mean..... i don't think its anything you should get sooo upset about. Lets put this into three categories A.) New players going against veterans and resorting to Sniping as they feel they have no other option to gain an edge. This can potentially be solved by new matchmaking procedures, but with less than 10,000 players its not likely to make a significant impact. Player versus Environment is also very important for this as it gives players a base to work from. B.) Dedicated snipers who have invested a lot of skill into their role. This can be rewarded by providing new weapons, more dynamic map features forthem to utilize and a more rewarding experience for their role. Battlefield 3 hallmarks on this with bonuses like Savior, which is rewarded when you kill a player before he kills a friendly. C.) Fall-backers. The guys who just give up whenever adversity becomes prominent in the form of being redlined. Theyre stat conscious and rather than risking KDR reduction by rushing into the frontline tobe killed, they try their luck with a rifle. This can be solved by making red line zones less rewarding to fire out of and CCP has discussed removing point accrual from kjlling someonein aredline or firing out and killing players outside the redline. this wont stop players from redlining teams, but it will remove incentive from doing so. Honestly, all of these can be easily fixed by implementation of more diverse game modes. Ambush, for instance, lacks redlines and does not have this issue. Does this mean that Redlines should be removed? No. But it does give strong reason to look at other options.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 173	Posted - 2013.07.16 09:42:00 - [20] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: The funniest thing is when you say screw it and go in there anyway there's absolutely zero supporting fire from that full team of snipers or they're shooting so wide there might as well not be any. Almost makes me think that they're embarrassed to afk so they just pretend they're sniping. This is what blows my mind. I think to myself, if you want to be a scum sniper at least cover me when I'm down on the null cannon trying to take it. But no, somehow that one bad guy manages to walk up to me and shoot me from behind when I have 3 blue snipers directly overwatching me. Like I've said before 90% of snipers in this game are worse than an empty spot on the team and I look forward to the day some FPS designer is brave enough to remove this anti-team class from their game.

Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2045	Posted - 2013.07.16 09:47:00 - [21] - Quote Shion Typhon wrote: Poplo Furuya wrote: The fhiest thing is when you say screw it and go in there anyway there's absolutely zero supporting fire from that full team of snipers or they're shooting so wide there might as well not be any. Almost makes me think that they're embarrassed to afk so they just pretend they're sniping. This is what blows my mind. I think to myself, if you want to be a scum sniper at least cover me when I'm down on the null cannon trying to take it. But no, somehow that one bad guy manages to walk up to me and shoot me from behind when I have 3 blue snipers directly overwatching me. Like I've said before 90% of snipers in this game are worse than an empty spot on the team and I look forward to the day some FPS designer is brave enough to remove this anti-team class from their game. Quite the contrary, a good sniper can makea hell of a difference. There was a player on a roof on Manus Peak and there were enemies climbing up the ladders to kill him. I am entirely convinced that had I not put rounds down range, twelve enemies would not have died and that player wouldnt have been able to get to safety with what little armor he had left. Wish I had a video of that.. Edit: Was not the skyscraper, by the way, just a low building.
Bettie Boop 2100190003 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 47	Posted - 2013.07.16 10:24:00 - [22] - Quote I like these guys they are endlessly entering for three reasons. 1) Blocking their line of sight and taping my AR/SMG in front of them to screw up their shots is fun. Thats after I find their nanohive and start chucking grenades so they have no ammo and have to die or run to a supply depot. 2) As one of the previous posts suggest, dropping tanks/LAVs on snipers is great fun and should be done at every opportunity. 3) If you cant get an LAV to squish them, you can always use your LAV to knock them off their sniping point. Every one hates getting caught on the front bumper of a murder taxi, and I say "why should red-line snipers be left out!" After all if your on a hill in the red-line that blue LAV cant kill you... (p.s. the best is calling in an LAV on top of one of the really tall towers that people go up on in a drop ship and running people off the edge) Enjoy the tips and PLEASE use them in your games!
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 198	Posted - 2013.07.16 10:24:00 - [23] - Quote Pubs. Pubs never change.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2048	Posted - 2013.07.16 10:28:00 - [24] - Quote J-Lewis wrote: Pubs. Pubs never change. Ron Perlman should play Tibus Heth in the new Eve series...
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 176	Posted - 2013.07.16 10:37:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: ... a good sniper can makea hell of a difference. See, this here is the problem. Only 1% of the game population qualifies as a "good" sniper. The rest are scaborous liquid monkey *****.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 749	Posted - 2013.07.16 10:46:00 - [26] - Quote This event means absolutely nothing to me, and I am not trying at all to meet any of the requirements. The rewards are just more useless BPO's that are going to sit in my inventory and do nothing. Even if I could trade or sell them, so what? I have enough ISK as it is, I don't need any more. If I want something I buy it. Freebies, unless officer gear, are useless to me. The only events this game has/had that were worth a damn are the SP multiplier events, and the Templar event (which sounded good, but ended up being a total bust). 2x, 3x, 4x SP etc events are great as it benefits 100% of everybody regardless of what they use. The Templar event sounded cool, as I was under the assumption that the Templar suits would be loaded up as some kind of super-suit with no skill requirements... instead Templar's were given garbage STD suits with very little variability in play style just so they could be farmed in matches It's wonderful CCP is doing these in an attempt to break the monotony, but sadly these events suck most of the time. Sorry CCP, but that is the cold hard truth. You guys can manipulate the game in any way you want... so why can't you be more creative? How about having a community voted event? Players come up with ideas and people vote on the best idea (within reason). Simple.
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 10	Posted - 2013.07.16 10:49:00 - [27] - Quote Dust514 is Made in China You figure it out , why.
Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2013.07.16 11:13:00 - [28] - Quote I just redline snipe to get people mad at me. My record so far is 3 people standing in front of me at the same time, trying to drop lavs on me, chugging grenades and do even less for the team than I am. it's great fun really. Just take your position, grab a drink and watch some tv on the second screen while watching 'internet tough guys' wasting their time, getting madder and madder.


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