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Solaire Randash
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
42
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Posted - 2013.07.16 04:08:00 -
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Played as a shotgun scout today. It worked good for me. Used militia shotgun and militia weapon dam rep with um.. Speed Catalyst that makes you run faster. Hit Detection worked fine for me. One-Shotted like 3 or 4 players. Don't see what's wrong with shotgun hit detection o.O |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
662
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Posted - 2013.07.16 04:09:00 -
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Play more games. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
732
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Posted - 2013.07.16 04:14:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Play more games.
^This you'll start seeing it soon enough |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
933
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Posted - 2013.07.16 04:17:00 -
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once you get out of the academy and people start moving around, it gets really difficult to land shots with the shotgun. |
Gaelon Thrace
DUST University
Ivy League
48
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Posted - 2013.07.16 04:59:00 -
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Multiple direct hits at point blank range resulting in absolutely zero damage dealt and if they're moving around it won't hit unless they're dead in the center of the reticle, not even if they're taking up half of the reticle. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:25:00 -
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Gaelon Thrace wrote:Multiple direct hits at point blank range resulting in absolutely zero damage dealt and if they're moving around it won't hit unless they're dead in the center of the reticle, not even if they're taking up half of the reticle.
Add to this the fact that once anyone with anything stronger than a nasty sneeze from a cold notices you, you are dead, and the picture with shotties gets clearer.
Now more than ever there is no reason to use more than militia for the shotty scout, unless you have lots of isk to burn. Full BPO all the way. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
650
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:31:00 -
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The mantra should be "Play the game how you like to". If you like the shotty then push it all day, if it works well for you then use it. There is no right way to play when you play for fun. There are problems with every game there is and DUST is no exception. Play with what you like and how you like, have fun and this game isn't that bad. Don't let the "DUST is dead" crowd pull you down. |
Solaire Randash
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
42
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:37:00 -
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Well I've been using the shotgun every once in a while before that fit too and haven't had problems. But okay... Ill use shotty scout today more if anything happens. |
Kastigrar
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:43:00 -
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Solaire Randash wrote:Well I've been using the shotgun every once in a while before that fit too and haven't had problems. But okay... Ill use shotty scout today more if anything happens.
Its extremely random. Some games it will be 100% - happy days!
The next game with a bit of lag, particularly around objectives, and its a nightmare. |
Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition
26
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:46:00 -
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They rely on speed not ehp, yes they die too quick.. that is for the ones that strafe instead of running with sprint mods. |
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
167
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:49:00 -
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Solaire Randash wrote:Played as a shotgun scout today. It worked good for me. Used militia shotgun and militia weapon dam rep with um.. Speed Catalyst that makes you run faster. Hit Detection worked fine for me. One-Shotted like 3 or 4 players. Don't see what's wrong with shotgun hit detection o.O
Shotgun Scout is pretty good. I think now that they are slightly easier to hit though they no longer provide a challenge no more. I used to get smashed by Scout shotgunners. Now I can actually kill them. Most the time they only need one shotgun hit. |
Solaire Randash
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
42
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:49:00 -
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Kastigrar wrote:Solaire Randash wrote:Well I've been using the shotgun every once in a while before that fit too and haven't had problems. But okay... Ill use shotty scout today more if anything happens. Its extremely random. Some games it will be 100% - happy days! The next game with a bit of lag, particularly around objectives, and its a nightmare.
I'm not sure if its just me but I haven't had lag. Even around other swarms of people at objectives. My Internet is all right it's not godly fast like others. Maybe my Internet is just at the perfect ping or something. Couldn't tell you my Internet connection right now as I'm using the phone on these forums right now. Not a techy about Internet much
And I've been here since... The build before Chromosome. Don't know the name of that one hehe. |
IRON PATRIOT 1
Not Guilty
EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:13:00 -
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Kastigrar wrote:[quote=Solaire Randash]Well I've been using the shotgun every once in a while before that fit too and haven't had problems. But okay... Ill use shotty scout today more if anything happens.
Its extremely random. Some games it will be 100% - happy days!
The next game with a bit of lag, particularly around objectives, and its a nightmare.
I agree with this, if you start lagging its time to fall back. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
167
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:15:00 -
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I have this problem ALL the time. I hit them dead on and see the blue splash and no damage. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
347
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Posted - 2013.07.16 13:11:00 -
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Thanks for your interest in investigating Shotgun Scout concerns. I'd encourage you to give it more than a day or two before deciding whether said concerns are with or without merit. Invest a million or ten SP into the appropriate skill trees; perfect the assassin's playstyle. Soon you'll be ready for PC.
As to avoid introducing bias to your experiment, I'll refrain from specificity. I will note that there is cause as to why so very few run SG Scout on a competitive level, as to why the Scout Community continues to lose its best players, and as to why the performance of those remaining Scouts continues to trend downward.
We Scouts have seen little love since Uprising. The Shotgun has seen little love since Uprising. As a dedicated Shotgun Scout, I am awaiting 1.3 with guarded optimism and closed wallet.
- Shotty GoBang |
Solaire Randash
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
42
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Posted - 2013.07.16 13:25:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Thanks for your interest in investigating Shotgun Scout concerns. I'd encourage you to give it more than a day or two before deciding whether said concerns are with or without merit. Invest a million or ten SP into the appropriate skill trees; perfect the assassin's playstyle. Soon you'll be ready for PC.
As to avoid introducing bias to your experiment, I'll refrain from specificity. I will note that there is cause as to why so very few run SG Scout on a competitive level, as to why the Scout Community continues to lose its best players, and as to why the performance of those remaining Scouts continues to trend downward.
We Scouts have seen little love since Uprising. The Shotgun has seen little love since Uprising. As a dedicated Shotgun Scout, I am awaiting 1.3 with guarded optimism and closed wallet.
- Shotty GoBang
Well if things go good for me with the shotty scout build, there'll be another running around on the field :) I liked the feel of it |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:21:00 -
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Yes, become addicted to the speed! Realize soon that you can't live without 2 complex kinetic catalyzes because everything else feels so sluggish. wahahahahah |
Solaire Randash
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
42
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:32:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Yes, become addicted to the speed! Realize soon that you can't live without 2 complex kinetic catalyzes because everything else feels so sluggish. wahahahahah
Haha. And being that the only Unreal game I've played was Unreal Tournament 3, the speed felt similar to it. Also to Quake Wars: Enemy Territory. |
Ro Dusakk
All But Ambition
12
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:32:00 -
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Then you were lucky. |
BARDAS
DUST University
Ivy League
176
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:39:00 -
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Nova Knife hit detection is worse imho, not to belittle dedicated shotgun scouts. We all need some Scoutly love from CPP. |
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