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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:19:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:It's not. It sacrifices utility, unlike other logis, and adds more 1 more high slot/ 1 more low slot.
Adapt or Die
Btw CCP shouldn't nerf the cal logi they should just buff other suits, so they ACTUALLY FILL THEIR ROLE.
1 Flux and it's "OPness" is NOTHING. HS fluxes me all the time. Makes fights hard for me being "OP" |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:41:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:hackerzilla wrote:It's not. It sacrifices utility, unlike other logis, and adds more 1 more high slot/ 1 more low slot.
Adapt or Die
Btw CCP shouldn't nerf the cal logi they should just buff other suits, so they ACTUALLY FILL THEIR ROLE.
Yeah.... you better adapt when they nerf the hell out of your god suit. IDC what you say, you can have 670 shields on your Pseudo assault/god suit and that's more then any other suit in game (except for perhaps an advanced heavy suit......). Maybe some of the other people are right, maybe the other suits are just underpowered due to lack of relevant racial bonuses. But should every suit be brought up to the standards of one suit? or should one suit be brought down to the standard of every other suit?
IF they change the suit drastically they will need to give us reset. A huge % of population uses this suit and we used it because it has 5H to shield tank. For a shield tanker it's CLEARLY the best option. I honestly don't think it's OP at all there are things put in the game made to destroy shields.
Changing the bonus is fine with me. As long as it's something that is helpful and not just a waist. maybe 2% movement speed every level? |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:47:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Marston VC wrote:hackerzilla wrote:It's not. It sacrifices utility, unlike other logis, and adds more 1 more high slot/ 1 more low slot.
Adapt or Die
Btw CCP shouldn't nerf the cal logi they should just buff other suits, so they ACTUALLY FILL THEIR ROLE.
Yeah.... you better adapt when they nerf the hell out of your god suit. IDC what you say, you can have 670 shields on your Pseudo assault/god suit and that's more then any other suit in game (except for perhaps an advanced heavy suit......). Maybe some of the other people are right, maybe the other suits are just underpowered due to lack of relevant racial bonuses. But should every suit be brought up to the standards of one suit? or should one suit be brought down to the standard of every other suit? IF they change the suit drastically they will need to give us reset. A huge % of population uses this suit and we used it because it has 5H to shield tank. For a shield tanker it's CLEARLY the best option. I honestly don't think it's OP at all there are things put in the game made to destroy shields. Changing the bonus is fine with me. As long as it's something that is helpful and not just a waist. maybe 2% movement speed every level? NO they don't...... lol you live with the choices you make man. You specced into a logistics suit..... if it gets changed in a way were its more "logi" oriented and you don't like it then TOO bad. Everyone specced into the TAC rifle, but its not like they got a respec because it sucked after it got nerfed..... (people did but that was for ENTIRELY different reasons).
Well IF they don't fix it too damn bad that you aren't spec into it. Since you wanna be a Ahole about it keep whining and getting smashed. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:53:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:I disagree with you, OP.
The suit is OP.
5 high slots, 4 low slots.... sure it only has 3 EQ slots (similar to the Amarr, which doesn't get anything until the sidearm at proto level) but I don't see very many Cal *Logis*.... I see assaults in Cal Logi suits, so those EQ slots.... it could be 2 and I doubt many of the super logi assaults would even notice.
Sure, you can take down the shields with a flux grenade - IF you can get close enough. Those duvolle's w/ damage mods hit pretty hard (and you still have 4 complex shield extenders).
There are various ways to fix this, including the racial bonus, changing the slot count....
If we get a respec from this.... how ironic that the FOTM players will be upset their fit is no longer OP and they demand the ability to move to another FOTM fit.... oh the justice.
I have some flux grenades on most of my fits, not that I can get close enough to a squad of super bumble bee "logi's" to make them worth a damn....
I use Shotgun with my "OP" suit.
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:00:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:My guess is that you are in the minority.
Are you running Kin/Cats and stamina mods? Do you still have 5 slots for sheild tanking or damage mods?
I run shotgun with my OP standard scout suit. I got 1 High slot, 2 low slots, no innate armor rep or shield bonus and ~250 HP.
So yeah.... your "OP" suit is actually OP... with no quotes.
Not my fault you chose that suit? So all Logi is supposed to be penalized cause our ability to read? It's none of your business what I run on MY shotgun build. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:02:00 -
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I have been working on another suit anyway so even IF CCP breaks the suit into pieces It won't change a thing for me I just really enjoy the Caldari for it's PG and CPU allows me to fit more and is no doubt the best shield tank suit in my opinion although Minmatar Logi suit is just as strong and I could build up the Gallente Logi into a pretty mean suit as well. So it really doesn't matter the Logi suits are the fit for me. I played Scout when it was a challenge in Chromosome you all are crying and whining cause you enjoyed it's speed exploit now that they can be hit you are on the same playing field. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:04:00 -
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Echoist wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Marston VC wrote:hackerzilla wrote:It's not. It sacrifices utility, unlike other logis, and adds more 1 more high slot/ 1 more low slot.
Adapt or Die
Btw CCP shouldn't nerf the cal logi they should just buff other suits, so they ACTUALLY FILL THEIR ROLE.
Yeah.... you better adapt when they nerf the hell out of your god suit. IDC what you say, you can have 670 shields on your Pseudo assault/god suit and that's more then any other suit in game (except for perhaps an advanced heavy suit......). Maybe some of the other people are right, maybe the other suits are just underpowered due to lack of relevant racial bonuses. But should every suit be brought up to the standards of one suit? or should one suit be brought down to the standard of every other suit? IF they change the suit drastically they will need to give us reset. A huge % of population uses this suit and we used it because it has 5H to shield tank. For a shield tanker it's CLEARLY the best option. I honestly don't think it's OP at all there are things put in the game made to destroy shields. Changing the bonus is fine with me. As long as it's something that is helpful and not just a waist. maybe 2% movement speed every level? ADAPT OR DIE!!! TROLOLOLOL
Didn't I already smash your corp when you attacked our friends? Wasn't it your corp that made a thread crying for advice because you got ROFL stomped? I rest my case... btw ADAPT or DIE.
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:10:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:I never said it was my business dude. And I'm not unhappy with my suit at all..... I'm certainly not blaming you for anything....
I still think the suit is OP relative to many other suits. It's adaptability is clearly far and above many other suits designed for other specialties (in your example, shotgunning).
If you are content with your clear advantage relative to *many* others on the filed, and you don't think it's OP relative to the competition.... that's your feeling and I respect it. I'm not saying your build is bad or whatever.... and I don't begrudge you your suit to use and have fun with as you see fit.
But, it's OP dude. I have a snowballs chance in hell of taking you down 1 on 1 with any proto scout shotgun suit. Or any assault suit. Maybe any OTHER log suit.... I may get a lucky shot or get the drop on you occasionally but realistically, if I want to compete with you in a super logi/shotgun build... .I'd need to run that fit. That, to me, is OP....
I wouldn't say it's OP... I die and I kill people using it. In Hellstorm wars they have no problem fluxing me. You make it sound like you put on the suit and you can start twirling around in tornadoes and have a green face and pull out all kinds of guns. Doesn't work that way it's a Caldari logi suit not 'The Mask' |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 09:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote: IF they change the suit drastically they will need to give us reset. A huge % of population uses this suit and we used it because it has 5H to shield tank. For a shield tanker it's CLEARLY the best option. I honestly don't think it's OP at all there are things put in the game made to destroy shields.
"Waaaah I specced into FotM and it might get nerfed respec RESPEC RESPEC WAAAAAAH!!!"
Yes that's exactly it... You got me. I wasn't good with a Scout suit in Chromosome and I didn't wreck noobs with Assault Type2 I waited and waited for a Cal Logi and if it gets nerfed I will have to wait years for another suit like this..... get real. I'll wreck most of you no matter what suit I use to be honest... |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 09:57:00 -
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First of all i thought we were talking about was the caldari logistical suit and not corps. Second, I've never even heard of your corp nor has my corp fought your corp. and the only PC battle we had only had two different corp names on the opposing team and I know for a fact that your corp name wasn't on the end game leaderboard. Third its sad that you have to resort to insulting my corp to respond to something that has NOTHING to do with the wolves. Next time you try and make an argument make it actually include what we're talking about.
Oh and don't expect a response this "argument" has become too childish to even continue, hope you have a good day.[/quote]
Than attack Blood money and you'll see me AGAIN. I'll slay down on you fags with this shotty AGAIN. The suit is not OP stop crying and get good. |
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:52:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:We already have a fast logi suit... its called the Winmatar suit!
On a serious note, just reduce the 5% shield extender buff to a 2-3%, get the total amount of possible HP down and it should even things out a bit.
Tbh i think the extra low slot could be taken away and replaced with an equipment slot (to keep it inline with the other suit set-ups), at the end of the day you cant use all four bits of equipment at once...
I wish I would of went Minmatar with my mentor. I told him I was and than for some reason I went Cal Logi lol! I don't feel too bad because his brother who is also one of the best shot gunners misses Cal Logi. My mentor however likes Winmatar more. I am thinking of specing into Winmatar so if the day comes Cal logi gets nerfed it's no big deal :) |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 22:49:00 -
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Cal Logi is fine as is stop crying. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 22:56:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Cal Logi is fine as is stop crying. The waves of tears from the militia wearing pub players will still probably break through our supposedly several hundred thousand shields and cause a nerf from CCP anyways though.
Which is why I will be working on another suit just in case these whiners think the suit makes me. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 23:03:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Cal Logi is fine as is stop crying. The waves of tears from the militia wearing pub players will still probably break through our supposedly several hundred thousand shields and cause a nerf from CCP anyways though. Which is why I will be working on another suit just in case these whiners think the suit makes me. Pretty much... once I get complex cardiac regs it'll be time to start saving for cal assault I think. I should have proto cal assault around this time next year.
I like the logi suits but you are right should prob go into Assault suits wish CCP would just get a grip on what the hell this game is gonna be. It just crazy what we spec into today isn't what we get tomorrow cause they just keep flopping the suits back and forth when we smash their corps in PC or anything else. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 23:15:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:I like the logi suits but you are right should prob go into Assault suits wish CCP would just get a grip on what the hell this game is gonna be. It just crazy what we spec into today isn't what we get tomorrow cause they just keep flopping the suits back and forth when we smash their corps in PC or anything else. I really enjoy the logi suit... get up close in combat while still dropping nanohives, needles, etc... its awesome. I actually play the role that the cal logi was intended for... frontline logistics. But hey who knows... we've had 2 months with it so far... it'll stick around for at least as long as it takes remnant to rewrite the racial bonuses... so we still have some time.
Ya they can change the Cal logi bonus as long as it's something helpful and not just a waist like rep needle that is something I don't use. It needs to be something helpful regardless of weapon choice. |
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