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Gogo O'Dell
Psygod9 rise of legion
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:04:00 -
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The people who murder taxi fall into one of two catagories:
Salty tankers with LLAVs and Newberries with mlt lavs
Now, the easy fix would be getting rid of ram kills, but that takes something out of the game that is fine where it is.
That being said, all the tankers would stop running LLAVs if our tanks were any good or cheap enough to be more cost-effective than a LLAV
Reduce mlt lav health to something that mlt swarms that can solo. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:04:00 -
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oh you're trying to solve me ey |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:05:00 -
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Gogo O'Dell wrote:The people who murder taxi fall into one of two catagories:
Salty tankers with LLAVs and Newberries with mlt lavs
Now, the easy fix would be getting rid of ram kills, but that takes something out of the game that is fine where it is.
That being said, all the tankers would stop running LLAVs if our tanks were any good or cheap enough to be more cost-effective than a LLAV
Reduce mlt lav health to something that mlt swarms that can solo. I don't fit in either category.
I am a caldari logi with a logi lav. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:05:00 -
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you forgot dual proto av spec with no vehicles left to destroy. |
Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:07:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:oh you're trying to solve me ey
Where have you been!? We're in the same alliance and I haven't tanked with you in forever!
-Charlotte O'dell (...this is alt #5...i get banned a lot. ignore the PRO tags. it's a very old alt) |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:07:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Gogo O'Dell wrote:The people who murder taxi fall into one of two catagories:
Salty tankers with LLAVs and Newberries with mlt lavs
Now, the easy fix would be getting rid of ram kills, but that takes something out of the game that is fine where it is.
That being said, all the tankers would stop running LLAVs if our tanks were any good or cheap enough to be more cost-effective than a LLAV
Reduce mlt lav health to something that mlt swarms that can solo. I don't fit in either category. I am a caldari logi with a logi lav. once they give us a vehicle lock i will run my logi from my lav as well but for now i have to be right beside my lav which limits me to av only. and even that is not fool proof. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
414
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:07:00 -
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Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:08:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:ImpureMort wrote:oh you're trying to solve me ey Where have you been!? We're in the same alliance and I haven't tanked with you in forever! -Charlotte O'dell (...this is alt #5...i get banned a lot. ignore the PRO tags. it's a very old alt) how many alts do you have char i only has 3 |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
331
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:08:00 -
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Gogo O'Dell wrote:Reduce mlt lav health to something that mlt swarms that can solo.
mlt LAVs die pretty quick as it is to militia swarms and basic AV nades, so what are you talking about? the HP of mlt lav's are fine, the issue is the offensive capability of roadkill and the survivability of LLAVs. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:09:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better. my logi lav vs your tank..ive never seen you before |
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ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:10:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Gogo O'Dell wrote:Reduce mlt lav health to something that mlt swarms that can solo. mlt LAVs die pretty quick as it is to militia swarms and basic AV nades, so what are you talking about? the HP of mlt lav's are fine, the issue is the offensive capability of roadkill and the survivability of LLAVs. proto av vs logi lavs is balanced its just that class wise there really is no reason to run anything other than logi and the other lavs suck at what they are meant for |
Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:10:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better.
I wasn't talking about you but if you want to get into this, I'm gonna be fighting Eon in PC all day in my tank. Do me a favor and merc for them so I can show you who is the better tanker...again. Does anyone want to bring popcorn for when The Attorney General gets the **** kicked out of him by someone with 3.5 mil SP in armor tanks? (Don't forget about the time I did it with a shield tank, either) |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:11:00 -
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if everyone has such an issue with lavs they should have used the triple sp event to grab proto nades and either forge or swarm respectively. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
102
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:11:00 -
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Gogo O'Dell wrote:Now, the easy fix would be getting rid of ram kills, but that takes something out of the game that is fine where it is.
The easy fix is the correct fix.
Buff the turret on the LAVs, take out ram damage. It would solve all of the problems of this nonsense bumper car play that's been going on since Uprising dropped. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:12:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better. I wasn't talking about you but if you want to get into this, I'm gonna be fighting Eon in PC all day in my tank. Do me a favor and merc for them so I can show you who is the better tanker...again. Does anyone want to bring popcorn for when The Attorney General gets the **** kicked out of him by someone with 3.5 mil SP in armor tanks? (Don't forget about the time I did it with a shield tank, either) hey ....if my ylod is fixed by those pc battles Mortedeamor will gladly offer her services to eon to blow up your tank |
Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:12:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:ImpureMort wrote:oh you're trying to solve me ey Where have you been!? We're in the same alliance and I haven't tanked with you in forever! -Charlotte O'dell (...this is alt #5...i get banned a lot. ignore the PRO tags. it's a very old alt) how many alts do you have char i only has 3
I think...7. Haha. I'll be tanking vs Eon all day. Tank with me!!!! |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
81
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:14:00 -
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Damage based on speed of LAV at impact, capped out at "x" damage. Lightly bump the suit, 50hp.... Full speed smashed into a wall, 300-400hp. Enough to kill squishy suits, or damage the heavier ones. But, that LAV better take some effing damage too.
LAV should take damage for each suit they come in contact with, they should also have a fuel bar.... refuel at supply depot... if you run out of fuel your LAV is immobilized and you have to hop out and recall it... or leave it. Logi's repair tool, or LLAV repairs, can refuel LAV's.
Thats all I got... but it would help to fix the current problem.
EDIT: Good luck today in the matches, give em hell dude! |
Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:14:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better. I wasn't talking about you but if you want to get into this, I'm gonna be fighting Eon in PC all day in my tank. Do me a favor and merc for them so I can show you who is the better tanker...again. Does anyone want to bring popcorn for when The Attorney General gets the **** kicked out of him by someone with 3.5 mil SP in armor tanks? (Don't forget about the time I did it with a shield tank, either) hey ....if my ylod is fixed by those pc battles Mortedeamor will gladly offer her services to eon to blow up your tank
Wait...Char's tank or Attorney's tank? I'm so confused at who is trolling who, now. All I know is that AG is my perma-troll. And he's also anti-tank-rights for some reason. Literally the only tanker who doesnt want a price reduction or tank buff and gets up on a pedestal about it. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
416
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:15:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better. I wasn't talking about you but if you want to get into this, I'm gonna be fighting Eon in PC all day in my tank. Do me a favor and merc for them so I can show you who is the better tanker...again. Does anyone want to bring popcorn for when The Attorney General gets the **** kicked out of him by someone with 3.5 mil SP in armor tanks? (Don't forget about the time I did it with a shield tank, either)
So you can have other people do your work for you?
Sounds about right.
If you want to prove something, we can just 1 v 1 on Zions district.
Just tell me what time to set the timer to, and put up your 30 mill. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:16:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Gogo O'Dell wrote:Now, the easy fix would be getting rid of ram kills, but that takes something out of the game that is fine where it is. The easy fix is the correct fix. Buff the turret on the LAVs, take out ram damage. It would solve all of the problems of this nonsense bumper car play that's been going on since Uprising dropped. mmm i disagree i think they should add collision damage to the lav when impacting suits relevant to the size and weight of the suit for example. after resistances are matched lav vs suit the suit should deal a portion of its hp as damage to the lav. it should be a percentage based on frame type for example 33 % 66% 99% light frame medium frame heavy frame. they should then give proto suits added run over resistances. and slight res to adv suits. they should give a frame based skill that enhances that resistance. so a proto heavy tanked would be the equivalent of 1 lai dai packed av nade |
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Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:16:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Gogo O'Dell wrote:Now, the easy fix would be getting rid of ram kills, but that takes something out of the game that is fine where it is. The easy fix is the correct fix. Buff the turret on the LAVs, take out ram damage. It would solve all of the problems of this nonsense bumper car play that's been going on since Uprising dropped.
I don't like that idea because it doesn't make sense- it is a car.
murder taxis are a symptom of a much greater group of problems: bad tanks, bad dropships, matchmaking that sucks....solving the symptom wont fix the game, it will only make it be less fun. Just reducing mlt lav HP would remove 50% of the ram kills in the first day, i bet. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
416
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:17:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:Literally the only tanker who doesnt want a price reduction or tank buff and gets up on a pedestal about it.
Where did I say I had a problem with a price reduction?
I can point to a couple of threads where I said that shield tanks need some love as well, but we all know the only thing you read is when people agree to help provide you with a god mode crutch. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:20:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:ImpureMort wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better. I wasn't talking about you but if you want to get into this, I'm gonna be fighting Eon in PC all day in my tank. Do me a favor and merc for them so I can show you who is the better tanker...again. Does anyone want to bring popcorn for when The Attorney General gets the **** kicked out of him by someone with 3.5 mil SP in armor tanks? (Don't forget about the time I did it with a shield tank, either) hey ....if my ylod is fixed by those pc battles Mortedeamor will gladly offer her services to eon to blow up your tank Wait...Char's tank or Attorney's tank? I'm so confused at who is trolling who, now. All I know is that AG is my perma-troll. And he's also anti-tank-rights for some reason. Literally the only tanker who doesnt want a price reduction or tank buff and gets up on a pedestal about it. charlotte odell is a reasonable person who wants the tanking experience in this game improved the right way. he has been advocating for tanks as long as i have. there are hundreds of thread by him hoping to help improve tanks. i dont kow what youur talking about hes anti tank improvement lol |
Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:20:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better. I wasn't talking about you but if you want to get into this, I'm gonna be fighting Eon in PC all day in my tank. Do me a favor and merc for them so I can show you who is the better tanker...again. Does anyone want to bring popcorn for when The Attorney General gets the **** kicked out of him by someone with 3.5 mil SP in armor tanks? (Don't forget about the time I did it with a shield tank, either) So you can have other people do your work for you? Sounds about right. If you want to prove something, we can just 1 v 1 on Zions district. Just tell me what time to set the timer to, and put up your 30 mill.
I already have proved myself and you saw it. I'll do it over and over every time I see you because I'm better and every tanker on here knows it. I could tally up votes from every person who has every fought with or against me and they will say I would win. I whine to no end bc im a troll; but I troll because I love tanks; because I'm good with them. Good enough that I use less SP than any other serious tanker in the game and am only ever checkmated by the very best of tactics. Anyhow, I'll be fighting Eon all day so you know where to find me. Then again, I'd tank any one of Eon's tankers over you so good luck getting work with them. The whole community knows that all the best tankers in the American time zone's are either in LOI or EON. |
Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:23:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:Literally the only tanker who doesnt want a price reduction or tank buff and gets up on a pedestal about it. Where did I say I had a problem with a price reduction? I can point to a couple of threads where I said that shield tanks need some love as well, but we all know the only thing you read is when people agree to help provide you with a god mode crutch.
God mode!? Tanks were god mode only in the hands of about 20 or less tankers in Chromosome- the rest made them into death traps for the pilots. I made it then and I am making it now because I'm good. Just...really, really whiny because I don't see why tanks and dropships have to get screwed every update and every time I call CCP out hard on it by naming names, I get banned because they don't want the community to know exactly who screwed up and that we saw it coming- Caeli wrote an article that predicted the fall of shield tanks if damage was reduced and look what happened- shield tanks are awful. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
416
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:23:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:
I already have proved myself and you saw it. I'll do it over and over every time I see you because I'm better and every tanker on here knows it. I could tally up votes from every person who has every fought with or against me and they will say I would win. I whine to no end bc im a troll; but I troll because I love tanks; because I'm good with them. Good enough that I use less SP than any other serious tanker in the game and am only ever checkmated by the very best of tactics. Anyhow, I'll be fighting Eon all day so you know where to find me. Then again, I'd tank any one of Eon's tankers over you so good luck getting work with them. The whole community knows that all the best tankers in the American time zone's are either in LOI or EON.
So is that a no?
Figures.
Like I said, I'll set the timer to suit you.
Or are you broke from getting blown up all the time? |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:23:00 -
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tanking in dust is like hoping on a game where u can only reach lvl 50 and everyone else can reach lvl 100 god forbid you run into 2 proto av specs who know what they are doing. go run away recall |
Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:24:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:ImpureMort wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Yet another thread of Charlotte getting on the soapbox.
How original.
I tank but never logi lav. Maybe you should just get better. I wasn't talking about you but if you want to get into this, I'm gonna be fighting Eon in PC all day in my tank. Do me a favor and merc for them so I can show you who is the better tanker...again. Does anyone want to bring popcorn for when The Attorney General gets the **** kicked out of him by someone with 3.5 mil SP in armor tanks? (Don't forget about the time I did it with a shield tank, either) hey ....if my ylod is fixed by those pc battles Mortedeamor will gladly offer her services to eon to blow up your tank Wait...Char's tank or Attorney's tank? I'm so confused at who is trolling who, now. All I know is that AG is my perma-troll. And he's also anti-tank-rights for some reason. Literally the only tanker who doesnt want a price reduction or tank buff and gets up on a pedestal about it. charlotte odell is a reasonable person who wants the tanking experience in this game improved the right way. he has been advocating for tanks as long as i have. there are hundreds of thread by him hoping to help improve tanks. i dont kow what youur talking about hes anti tank improvement lol
I feel like I'm completely different in game than on the forums, as is the case with all the trolls. lol. But yeah, my ps3 had the ylod last week so i missed 3x SP and finally got it back. im so excited that we can tank together again! :D we need...to kill eon...in llavs....for realz. lol |
Pikachu Power
Planetary Response Organisation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:25:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:
I already have proved myself and you saw it. I'll do it over and over every time I see you because I'm better and every tanker on here knows it. I could tally up votes from every person who has every fought with or against me and they will say I would win. I whine to no end bc im a troll; but I troll because I love tanks; because I'm good with them. Good enough that I use less SP than any other serious tanker in the game and am only ever checkmated by the very best of tactics. Anyhow, I'll be fighting Eon all day so you know where to find me. Then again, I'd tank any one of Eon's tankers over you so good luck getting work with them. The whole community knows that all the best tankers in the American time zone's are either in LOI or EON.
So is that a no? Figures. Like I said, I'll set the timer to suit you. Or are you broke from getting blown up all the time?
I don't play games because unlike you, I'm actually good enough to still be in PC.
I'll be playing with the big boys if you want to find me. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
416
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:29:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:
I don't play games because unlike you, I'm actually good enough to still be in PC.
I'll be playing with the big boys if you want to find me.
Talks trash, refuses a straight up fight.
Pull down your dress, your vagina is showing. |
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ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:32:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:[quote=Pikachu Power]
I don't play games because unlike you, I'm actually good enough to still be in PC.
I'll be playing with the big boys if you want to find me.
Talks trash, refuses a straight up fight.
Pull down your dress, your vagina is showing.
what is this pikachu guys main's name ive never heard of him. and ive been costing tankers money since last july lol |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
416
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:34:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:
what is this pikachu guys main's name ive never heard of him. and ive been costing tankers money since last july lol
It's Charlotte.
Who clings to getting OB'd as a victory over me.
If you can figure that one out, I'll give you 1 million ISK. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:36:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:ImpureMort wrote:
what is this pikachu guys main's name ive never heard of him. and ive been costing tankers money since last july lol
It's Charlotte. Who clings to getting OB'd as a victory over me. If you can figure that one out, I'll give you 1 million ISK. lol hey char we should fight you still a shield tanker...i added proto forge to my arsenal :D |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:38:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:The Attorney General wrote:ImpureMort wrote:
what is this pikachu guys main's name ive never heard of him. and ive been costing tankers money since last july lol
It's Charlotte. Who clings to getting OB'd as a victory over me. If you can figure that one out, I'll give you 1 million ISK. lol hey char we should fight you still a shield tanker...i added proto forge to my arsenal :D what corp is your main in char we should fight i havnt seen you ina long time lol |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
102
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:46:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:Gogo O'Dell wrote:Now, the easy fix would be getting rid of ram kills, but that takes something out of the game that is fine where it is. The easy fix is the correct fix. Buff the turret on the LAVs, take out ram damage. It would solve all of the problems of this nonsense bumper car play that's been going on since Uprising dropped. I don't like that idea because it doesn't make sense- it is a car.
If you're going to try to talk logic in a video game about 4 races who can endlessly clone their consciousnesses into different bodies while fighting on different planets of all equal gravities across the galaxy, you're going to have a pretty hard time.
This is a video game. Video games need balance to be fun. A simple and crazy effective balance to get the light vehicle to be used as I'd imagine as intended (otherwise all that rendering and coding of the turret was just for kicks) would be much better than the current system. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
201
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:46:00 -
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Gogo O'Dell wrote:The people who murder taxi fall into one of two catagories:
Salty tankers with LLAVs and Newberries with mlt lavs
Now, the easy fix would be getting rid of ram kills, but that takes something out of the game that is fine where it is.
That being said, all the tankers would stop running LLAVs if our tanks were any good or cheap enough to be more cost-effective than a LLAV
Reduce mlt lav health to something that mlt swarms that can solo.
lol your wrong I don't fit into either category... been playing since jan 23.... I run a logi suit w/ shotgun 2 types of remote explosives and a repper and when im not running ppl over im running from point to point resetting my explosives or going to a depot to re up or using my LAV to close in quick for a quick shotty kill when someone gets behind cover from my LAV or has taken out my REs blah blah blah etc etc etc.... point is your perception of the game is narrow which leads me to believe you are in fact a newberry yourself who has simply ended up as roadkill too many times....
murder taxis aren't a problem.... lack of proper AV fits are.... and CCP blam is....
although I will say this the free LAV needs to go.... it needs to be replaced with like a hoverbike or some such.... |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:50:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Gogo O'Dell wrote:Reduce mlt lav health to something that mlt swarms that can solo. mlt LAVs die pretty quick as it is to militia swarms and basic AV nades, so what are you talking about? the HP of mlt lav's are fine, the issue is the offensive capability of roadkill and the survivability of LLAVs.
Yes, this seems to be the general consensus. The militia LAV's now have been pretty much countered by people adapting and packing AV. Having said that, the LLAV's are really impossible to destroy barring a concerted effort, which I think is disproportionate in regards to their vehicle class. |
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