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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:46:00 -
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4x complex armor plates is just... lol
Do people really use the Sentinel suit?
Amarr Heavy Ak.0 has room for 2x Complex Shield Extenders. That will leave you with 651 shield (with max shield skill), enough to tank a grenade and have some shields left over if you are engaged at full health. And then you can stack 3x Complex Shield Regulators to reduce recharge delay by almost 60% to help you be at full shield more often during battle. If you normally run around all plated out with -40% movement penalty the above suit will feel like a scout running around all fast and sheet.
Think you will be too squishy without all your armor HP then toss in some plates/repairers if needed.. depending on your logisupport. Seems like pure-logi's may be hard to comeby when most PC battles seem to center around who can kill the most clones the fastest.
You can also consider running Complex Recharger/Extender combo on the high side.
Try some different fittings out you may be pleasantly surprised with the results. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
80
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:01:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I have a full kinkat suit I wear as well. It's hilarious for trolling bad players but when you're in actual combat it doesnt help anything. Strafe speed isn't affected and its still too slow to avoid anyone who knows anything about how to counter strafe tech, so you become the easiest target on the field.
Meanwhile HMG takes too long to rev up if you're standing still, your HP value is too low to survive all of the incoming DPS, and if you strafe yourself your accuracy becomes too terrible to make a dent to a well-tanked well-strafing adversary.
It doesn't matter what route you take. The heavy is low-tier in direct engagements.
I agree, in terms of stopping power the heavy/hmg combo is lackluster in the fights that matter. Heck, for CQC with a fast moving suit I will often times switch to my SMG, leaving the HMG for those medium range encounters or popping people coming around corners that dont know I'm there. But, that may be just fine as long as we fill some type of a useful role. KDR means bubkiss. Suppression, Forge Guns, Point Defense, Bullet Sponge (tank).... stepping out in front of your assault buddy about to die to eat some of those bullets. Things of that nature are all still quite useful in my humble opinion.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
80
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:05:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Anyone going to argue with this guy? its too hot here and i cant be bothered
OP yes grenades are quite good against heavies...
No they are not the end all super counter that makes them redundant and calls for a huge hp buff
take my word for it
Do you run 4 complex plates on your heavy? If not, why should anyone take your word for anything? You're talking with this "I can't be bothered" superior attitude and for the life of me I can't figure out why. Are you supposed to be relevant or something? no literally its like 35degC in my office and it takes effort to deal with you ... i do feel a little supirior in that i play as heavies and really dont find grenades much of a problem...  . I try to make relevant conversation... such as... The reason you have such problems getting away from grenades is prob because your running 4 complex plates.
IN pub matches you may get 1-2 grenades tossed at you at any given time, some cooked, some not... and I agree that is not a big problem.
IN PC matches, you may get over 9000 fused grenades toss at you any given time... that is a problem. Very tough to avoid for anyone, especially the heavy.
This game has been referenced as Explosions514... and it seems to be the case now. Lots of MD, Flaylock and Fused Grenade spam... which is a terrible idea against a slow armor heavy suit. Give me back my B-Series lol. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
80
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:19:00 -
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I may have to disagree with you a bit. The "go-to" assault style suit in PC right now is the Caldari Logi... and those guys are pushing 900-1000 HP with better movement/jump ability than the heavy suit, better shield recharge rate/delay as well..
My Heavy Ak.0 suit with stacked extenders and plates has about 1500hp with about 25% movement penalty, and super slow shield recharge rate and delay (depleted takes a whopping 10 seconds). If I stack regulators or recharges, I sacrifice eHP... catch 22.
Which suit would you rather be in when the pro quarterbacks start throwing touchdown passes while standing on a proto nanohive?
The problem right now is explosions... too many of them.
Fixes:
Remove fused grenades.
Reduce grenade count to max 2
Do not allow grenades to be restocked through nanohives, or require them to take ALOT more time... like 5 seconds between grenade restocks.
We will see a new style of gameplay, one which any die-hard FPS fan would welcome... shoot first, grenade second. More gun game, less lolsplosions. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
81
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:57:00 -
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Word... I can only image what a Sentinel with 4x Comp Plates moves like... ouch.
My favorite suit to run in pubs was 2x shld rechargers, 2x shld regulators and 1x repairer. Only 1k hp and CPU was a bit of a problem, but it all came back so fast :) |
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