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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 08:27:00 -
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If matchmaking is going to be base on what gear you can equip, if you have access to Proto suits, even if you never use them, you will put in Pubstoming servers. If you want to have FUN playing Dust 514, AVOID PROTOTYPE SUITS.
This is directed to the newest players that haven Spec into proto yet. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
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Posted - 2013.07.15 08:43:00 -
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Queen of Uranus wrote:I'm sure this will make the players who cannot afford to run proto every game happy.
I know right ? Only big corps can afford running Proto in every match.. so, solo players and small corps are **** with this matchmaking system. I actually please that i decided to avoid Proto in my last Respec.... |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 08:50:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:1- We haven't the matchmaker yet and you are already crying? LOL
2- Ya know that rewards depends on how expensive destroyed stuff in a match is? If everyone is running proto in a match you will get a godly amount of isk at the end.
I know the way CCP does things ...they going to make sure that the Predators have plenty of Prey.
Predators - Big corps
Prey - Solo players & Small corps.
You'll see... is going to be lots of tears. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 09:15:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:You say proto gear, so if I have access to prototype scrambler rifles will I be included in on this? Only skilled it to level 5 for the Proficiency prerequisite; I did try the proto versions out a bit but too much extra CPU/PG and ISK for what is only slightly better.
Prototype Suits are the biggest problem..the gap between Adv and Proto suits is much bigger than with the weapons. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 09:19:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Wait, I specced into proto but I only have 30mil ISK left...
I din't spec into Proto and i also have 30 mil ... what's you point ?  |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 09:31:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Wait, I specced into proto but I only have 30mil ISK left... I din't spec into Proto and i also have 30 mil ... what's you point ? I cannot afford to run proto in all matches. If this matchmaking thing goes through, I'm screwed. As it is, I went down 40mil ISK running experimental fittings in the last month.
Right .. i thought was something like that  I hope CCP rethinks this idea before they go ahead. Matchmaking by access to gear won't work CCP... |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 09:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:We don't even know how the matchmaking will work yet, and people are complaining.  Dunno if I would have called this complaining.... but oh well.
Is not complaining ... is more a " Warning ". |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 09:51:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:1- We haven't the matchmaker yet and you are already crying? LOL
2- Ya know that rewards depends on how expensive destroyed stuff in a match is? If everyone is running proto in a match you will get a godly amount of isk at the end. I would like to point out this is false. The more you destroy, the smaller percentage of that value is awarded. So destroying 10's of millions will barely be noticeable compared to destroying 10's of thousands. Diminishing returns but 250 to 450 per battle is very good when a death cost one to three k or free on my starter fits.
But.. you see, that is the problem. You starter fits will be useless, if the matchmaking puts you in Pubstoming battles every time.
You don't seeing the bigger picture. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 10:01:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:1- We haven't the matchmaker yet and you are already crying? LOL
2- Ya know that rewards depends on how expensive destroyed stuff in a match is? If everyone is running proto in a match you will get a godly amount of isk at the end. I would like to point out this is false. The more you destroy, the smaller percentage of that value is awarded. So destroying 10's of millions will barely be noticeable compared to destroying 10's of thousands. Diminishing returns but 250 to 450 per battle is very good when a death cost one to three k or free on my starter fits. But.. you see, that is the problem. You starter fits will be useless, if the matchmaking puts you in Pubstoming battles every time. You don't seeing the bigger picture. Starter fit on railgun kills any protobear. Starter fit Sniper plus smg and remotes gets kills for few isk and my fave is proxy since I found a pattern that gets a kill most times. I never play regular ambush since its fail with no nstallations to use or capture. OMS, Skirmish or Domination have plenty of ways for isk gains.
That doesn't looks fun to me ... but if you want to play the game like that, is up to you... i guess. But the FUN and the enjoyable game-play is going to be in the Adv gear matchmaking. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 10:18:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1050070#post1050070
Not specing into something will not help. Matchmaking is probably based off of more than just gear leveled into. KDR, WP, SP and a few other matrices are at play also. Separating battles by restricting gear is the best way of avoiding proto stomps.
You assuming that CCP is going to be bother trying to make a complex matchmaking system.. i won't hold my breath if i was you. |
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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 10:24:00 -
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Orenji Jiji wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
That doesn't looks fun to me ... but if you want to play the game like that, is up to you... i guess. But the FUN and the enjoyable game-play is going to be in Adv gear matchmaking.
Starter fit logi with two types of remotes and set six out in a long line then pretend to engage a squad of six enemy protos who only see a starter fit easy kill and they all just have to run after the rabbit to try and kill me then when the squad was in my kill fields I pressed L1 twice to see +50 +50 +50 +50 +50 +50 And that was fun!! And that's good business for you! Also, OP don't tell me what to do!
I rather pick a gun and go to the heat of the battle... that is fun for me.
Also...i din't tell anyone what to do. Just friendly advice for newbies. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:32:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If matchmaking is going to be base on what gear you can equip Is it? Or are you just making **** up?
They already said that it will, i believe they said that in E3. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:14:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:If matchmaking is going to be base on what gear you can equip, if you have access to Proto suits, even if you never use them, you will put in Pubstoming servers. If you want to have FUN playing Dust 514, AVOID PROTOTYPE SUITS. Its not, and CCP said it would not be, so go yell at the sky somewhere else you crazy person.
Ha! they removed all the E3 threads ...I wonder why... But they DID said in E3 that matchmaking will be base on what gear you have, and what equipment you use. |
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