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calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:39:00 -
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Watch video and enjoy a true American classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqDCCTCYTNI |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:43:00 -
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Now, I believe that the HMG is supposed to be used by infantry -stay with me here- instead of mounted on vehicles.
Crazy, I know. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:49:00 -
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With advancements in technology hint hint future war. The HMG made with lighter more heat resistant alloys would be troop carry able. The HMG we have now is a joke a far cry from what this weapon can really do. I ask bring back the weapons the way they were before they were all nerfed. I am tired of being slow and under powered. I love the heavy but I am tired of dieing by the flavor of the months or by poor hit detection. Let the HMG really shine. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
918
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:59:00 -
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Quote:and its range is comparatively limited how is this different from the ones here? |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
331
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:03:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Now, I believe that the HMG is supposed to be used by infantry -stay with me here- instead of mounted on vehicles.
Crazy, I know. Nah, they have LMGs for that. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
4149
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:07:00 -
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Now that is my HMG,I carry it and I can put it on a LAV |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
427
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:29:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Quote:and its range is comparatively limited how is this different from the ones here?
In truth the M134 has an accurate range of about 1000 meters while most ARs fire accurately at about 500 meters. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
676
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:37:00 -
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Why isn't there an HMG turret? |
Celestial Fire
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:38:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Why isn't there an HMG turret?
Probably a small Min' turret that will be released soon along with the large turrets and Amarr ones too. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
216
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:54:00 -
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I watched the video and heard "incendiary."
CCP, give me the option to purchase incendiary rounds for my HMG! |
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hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
677
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:56:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I watched the video and heard "incendiary."
CCP, give me the option to purchase incendiary rounds for my HMG!
I know not what you talk about all I heard was "armor piercing". |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
216
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:59:00 -
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hooc order wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:I watched the video and heard "incendiary."
CCP, give me the option to purchase incendiary rounds for my HMG! I know not what you talk about all I heard was "armor piercing".
Did you say armor piercing incendiary rounds? |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
331
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:01:00 -
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There is so much **** CCP can add to this game being scifi and **** lol. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
410
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:28:00 -
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You do know that if they make guns work realisticly that...
Armor or Shields will always be inferioir to the damage a weapon can and will do?
If weapons progress along with Armor, or shields & suits will at most help us when a bullet grazes the suit, dead on hits would mean a gigantic gaping hole trough the suit front to back...
This means, any Vehicle is a one shot kill from any AV weapon, and all us troopers are one shot kills from any weapon we might be carrying, no amount of shields or advanced plates is going to stop enough damage to keep us alive...
Looking forward to dropping you from 5000m with a magnetic coil Rail rifle, trough your helmet in your phat suit while your effective range is 500m in one shot, or if i am lazy just trough the chest to make a point about your armor being on there for looks only. |
Bleeding Knight
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.07.15 07:20:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:You do know that if they make guns work realisticly that... Armor or Shields will always be inferioir to the damage a weapon can and will do? If weapons progress along with Armor, or shields & suits will at most help us when a bullet grazes the suit, dead on hits would mean a gigantic gaping hole trough the suit front to back... This means, any Vehicle is a one shot kill from any AV weapon, and all us troopers are one shot kills from any weapon we might be carrying, no amount of shields or advanced plates is going to stop enough damage to keep us alive... Looking forward to dropping you from 5000m with a magnetic coil Rail rifle, trough your helmet in your phat suit while your effective range is 500m in one shot, or if i am lazy just trough the chest to make a point about your armor being on there for looks only.
Templar one. Nuff said
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
261
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Posted - 2013.07.15 07:23:00 -
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Molon labe? New corp? |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1751
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Posted - 2013.07.15 07:31:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Now that is my HMG,I carry it and I can put it on a LAV I like your gun. Its deadly. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
832
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Posted - 2013.07.15 08:38:00 -
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\o/ hurray lets make the game like the real world.
Orbitals turn the entire battlefield to glass, railguns punch a hole in you, the guy behind you, the guy next to you, and all AFTER going through the building you were hiding behind. Lasers would likely ignight the atmosphere, LAV's take dmg for every nick and prang, shields would cause SOOO many problems, and the AR's would do little more than blacken your armour. |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1751
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Posted - 2013.07.15 08:39:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:\o/ hurray lets make the game like the real world.
Orbitals turn the entire battlefield to glass, railguns punch a hole in you, the guy behind you, the guy next to you, and all AFTER going through the building you were hiding behind. Lasers would likely ignight the atmosphere, LAV's take dmg for every nick and prang, shields would cause SOOO many problems, and the AR's would do little more than blacken your armour. My shields are so powerful that they dont even let oxygen go through.... what... I cant breathe.. help! |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
832
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Posted - 2013.07.15 08:55:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:\o/ hurray lets make the game like the real world.
Orbitals turn the entire battlefield to glass, railguns punch a hole in you, the guy behind you, the guy next to you, and all AFTER going through the building you were hiding behind. Lasers would likely ignight the atmosphere, LAV's take dmg for every nick and prang, shields would cause SOOO many problems, and the AR's would do little more than blacken your armour. My shields are so powerful that they dont even let oxygen go through.... what... I cant breathe.. help!
If that were the case it would prob be quite hard to walk too... |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3229
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Posted - 2013.07.15 09:00:00 -
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calvin b wrote:With advancements in technology hint hint future war. The HMG made with lighter more heat resistant alloys would be troop carry able. The HMG we have now is a joke a far cry from what this weapon can really do. I ask bring back the weapons the way they were before they were all nerfed. I am tired of being slow and under powered. I love the heavy but I am tired of dieing by the flavor of the months or by poor hit detection. Let the HMG really shine. Before the nerf they were ridiculously overpowered and there was no reason to play anything else other than the heavy. |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1753
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Posted - 2013.07.15 09:06:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:General John Ripper wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:\o/ hurray lets make the game like the real world.
Orbitals turn the entire battlefield to glass, railguns punch a hole in you, the guy behind you, the guy next to you, and all AFTER going through the building you were hiding behind. Lasers would likely ignight the atmosphere, LAV's take dmg for every nick and prang, shields would cause SOOO many problems, and the AR's would do little more than blacken your armour. My shields are so powerful that they dont even let oxygen go through.... what... I cant breathe.. help! If that were the case it would prob be quite hard to walk too... Yea it would be hard to walk after passing out from lack of oxygen. But I should be able to move around freely while I am still conscience. Its not like the shield or oxygen would be any heavier just because oxygen does not go through. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
833
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Posted - 2013.07.15 09:45:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:General John Ripper wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:\o/ hurray lets make the game like the real world.
Orbitals turn the entire battlefield to glass, railguns punch a hole in you, the guy behind you, the guy next to you, and all AFTER going through the building you were hiding behind. Lasers would likely ignight the atmosphere, LAV's take dmg for every nick and prang, shields would cause SOOO many problems, and the AR's would do little more than blacken your armour. My shields are so powerful that they dont even let oxygen go through.... what... I cant breathe.. help! If that were the case it would prob be quite hard to walk too... Yea it would be hard to walk after passing out from lack of oxygen. But I should be able to move around freely while I am still conscience. Its not like the shield or oxygen would be any heavier just because oxygen does not go through.
Ahh im shure the suits have filters and whatnot so you can breath (because nanites).
But if shields seal you in... frictionless steps? dusting on ice? |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
299
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Posted - 2013.07.15 10:47:00 -
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Awesome vid. Watching all those shell casings just dump out of that thing was priceless. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
45
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:30:00 -
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we are new a corp with vet players |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:39:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Why isn't there an HMG turret? Quote:In truth the M134 has an accurate range of about 1000 meters while most ARs fire accurately at about 500 meters. AR has a point blank range of 500 meters....that is you point and fire at a dot and it will hit that dot. it is "accurate" up to a 1000 meters. That is you point and fire at center of mass of a person and you will hit that person center mass. With a M134 i imagine the dot probably does not care if it gets hit by 50 rounds in a second if those rounds are accurate or point blank. What's a "point blank range?" |
Tank Gorillarape
Not Guilty EoN.
21
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:43:00 -
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A water gun |
Crow Splat
DUST University Ivy League
59
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:05:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Why isn't there an HMG turret? Quote:In truth the M134 has an accurate range of about 1000 meters while most ARs fire accurately at about 500 meters. AR has a point blank range of 500 meters....that is you point and fire at a dot and it will hit that dot. it is "accurate" up to a 1000 meters. That is you point and fire at center of mass of a person and you will hit that person center mass. With a M134 i imagine the dot probably does not care if it gets hit by 50 rounds in a second if those rounds are accurate or point blank.
ROFLMAO.... No.... Just.... No.....
Next time Google the ballistics on 5.56 before posting nonsense.
The generally standard 'zero' on an AR is 200 meters. This means that you can hit a target at 200 meters just by pointing the sights at it. At 500 meters without any sight adjustment, the bullet will hit 12-15 inches BELOW the sight picture. You could zero for 500 but it would make hitting targets at shorter rang difficult as they would actually hit ABOVE the sight picture.
As for an AR hitting out to 1000 meters, it can be done, but it requires a rifle and cartridge specifically made for the task. It's not something you would try with your standard line rifle. The biggest problem in shooting that far is the round itself. As the bullet travels, friction from the air cause it to slow down. When the bullet slows to the speed of sound it enters what is called 'transsonic' speeds. The bullet often becomes unstable at this speed and flies off in a random direction with less than lethal force. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
686
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:25:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:hooc order wrote:Why isn't there an HMG turret? Quote:In truth the M134 has an accurate range of about 1000 meters while most ARs fire accurately at about 500 meters. AR has a point blank range of 500 meters....that is you point and fire at a dot and it will hit that dot. it is "accurate" up to a 1000 meters. That is you point and fire at center of mass of a person and you will hit that person center mass. With a M134 i imagine the dot probably does not care if it gets hit by 50 rounds in a second if those rounds are accurate or point blank. What's a "point blank range?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-blank_range
point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
686
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:28:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:hooc order wrote:Why isn't there an HMG turret? Quote:In truth the M134 has an accurate range of about 1000 meters while most ARs fire accurately at about 500 meters. AR has a point blank range of 500 meters....that is you point and fire at a dot and it will hit that dot. it is "accurate" up to a 1000 meters. That is you point and fire at center of mass of a person and you will hit that person center mass. With a M134 i imagine the dot probably does not care if it gets hit by 50 rounds in a second if those rounds are accurate or point blank. ROFLMAO.... No.... Just.... No..... Next time Google the ballistics on 5.56 before posting nonsense. The generally standard 'zero' on an AR is 200 meters. This means that you can hit a target at 200 meters just by pointing the sights at it. At 500 meters without any sight adjustment, the bullet will hit 12-15 inches BELOW the sight picture. You could zero for 500 but it would make hitting targets at shorter rang difficult as they would actually hit ABOVE the sight picture. As for an AR hitting out to 1000 meters, it can be done, but it requires a rifle and cartridge specifically made for the task. It's not something you would try with your standard line rifle. The biggest problem in shooting that far is the round itself. As the bullet travels, friction from the air cause it to slow down. When the bullet slows to the speed of sound it enters what is called 'transsonic' speeds. The bullet often becomes unstable at this speed and flies off in a random direction with less than lethal force.
550 meters (point target)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle |
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Crow Splat
DUST University Ivy League
59
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:42:00 -
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If wikipedia is a good enough source for you the more power to you. I've put more rounds down range then I can count with dozens of rifles and I can guarantee you that a bullet does not fly straight from the muzzle out to 500 meters without dropping.
This is some good information on how bullets actually fly. Complete with charts and diagrams.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=63618 |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
574
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:46:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:calvin b wrote:With advancements in technology hint hint future war. The HMG made with lighter more heat resistant alloys would be troop carry able. The HMG we have now is a joke a far cry from what this weapon can really do. I ask bring back the weapons the way they were before they were all nerfed. I am tired of being slow and under powered. I love the heavy but I am tired of dieing by the flavor of the months or by poor hit detection. Let the HMG really shine. Before the nerf they were ridiculously overpowered and there was no reason to play anything else other than the heavy.
The HMG was never op. What was op was the stupidity of folks running straight at heavies. I havent specked back to heavy this build vecause of what they did to my once proud sixkin burst |
Henry FitzEmpress
Reaper Galactic
36
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:49:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Crow Splat wrote:hooc order wrote:Why isn't there an HMG turret? Quote:In truth the M134 has an accurate range of about 1000 meters while most ARs fire accurately at about 500 meters. AR has a point blank range of 500 meters....that is you point and fire at a dot and it will hit that dot. it is "accurate" up to a 1000 meters. That is you point and fire at center of mass of a person and you will hit that person center mass. With a M134 i imagine the dot probably does not care if it gets hit by 50 rounds in a second if those rounds are accurate or point blank. ROFLMAO.... No.... Just.... No..... Next time Google the ballistics on 5.56 before posting nonsense. The generally standard 'zero' on an AR is 200 meters. This means that you can hit a target at 200 meters just by pointing the sights at it. At 500 meters without any sight adjustment, the bullet will hit 12-15 inches BELOW the sight picture. You could zero for 500 but it would make hitting targets at shorter rang difficult as they would actually hit ABOVE the sight picture. As for an AR hitting out to 1000 meters, it can be done, but it requires a rifle and cartridge specifically made for the task. It's not something you would try with your standard line rifle. The biggest problem in shooting that far is the round itself. As the bullet travels, friction from the air cause it to slow down. When the bullet slows to the speed of sound it enters what is called 'transsonic' speeds. The bullet often becomes unstable at this speed and flies off in a random direction with less than lethal force. 550 meters (point target) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifleyou are right it says "800 meters (area target)" i remembered it wrong from when i first read it...thought it was 1000 meters. Hooc, you're confusing "Battlesight Zero" (point blank range) with "maximum effective range of an M16 against a point target." They're two seperate concepts and don't have much to do with each other.
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Phantom Vaxer
The Generals EoN.
27
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Posted - 2013.07.16 00:01:00 -
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calvin b wrote:With advancements in technology hint hint future war. The HMG made with lighter more heat resistant alloys would be troop carry able. The HMG we have now is a joke a far cry from what this weapon can really do. I ask bring back the weapons the way they were before they were all nerfed. I am tired of being slow and under powered. I love the heavy but I am tired of dieing by the flavor of the months or by poor hit detection. Let the HMG really shine.
I think heavies were perfect in the last build. Now its kind of a joke. I can kill proto heavies with all militia gear, exile AR, and no AR skills all due to me being able to take them out at range. And when I feel like trolling with lvl 3 skill MDs its just sad to see heavies taken out so easily... |
Crow Splat
DUST University Ivy League
59
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Posted - 2013.07.16 00:57:00 -
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Also am I the only one that saw the thread title and the OP saying 'American Classic' and got disappointed that the video wasn't from Predator or Terminator 2? |
calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
46
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:29:00 -
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It is an American classic. Did you know the confederacy had the choice first on the Gatling gun but turned it down due to the fear of wasted ammunition. Also I am a heavy but have grown very tired of being out gunned by inferior weapons. Like today less than ten feet away my weapon failed to hit the target as I watched the person bunny hop away. Whats the use of an HMG if it cant even kill someone within 10 feet. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
46
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:37:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:Also am I the only one that saw the thread title and the OP saying 'American Classic' and got disappointed that the video wasn't from Predator or Terminator 2?
here you go enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RbL4PwTDsQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekebBgJnyt8
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