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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
314
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:43:00 -
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imo AV weapons should not be affected by weapon damage modifiers bonus, they already have an high damage |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3325
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:57:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:The Attorney General wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Me or mr atourny knobcheese? Cause hell iv never seen him . Oh how clever of a name change. You don't see me because you are probably spamming ambush with three or four other "tankers". BTW, you do know that you spelled Pegasus wrong right? Lol I never play ambush so get your facts right and yes it is a change of spelling because pegasus prime was an old game I loved so my name is a homage to it. Also when your loosing a debate it just cheepens yourself to go for personal attacks it just make you look stupid tbh. Now go and shove that controller of yours up your smug arse.dickcheese. Do you see what you just did to yourself there?
And it's a shame, because until you did that, it was the other guy who was losing (not "loosing"). Now I'm not so sure.
Also, I've seen Pegasis in game before, and can vouch that he was a good tanker last time we met. Also seen him in the forums, and while his English is atrocious, he seems like he actually thinks through what he's posting, which is more than I can say for myself sometimes.
Proto AV should NOT be one-shotting HAVs. Maybe, just maybe, it's reasonable for a Proto Swarm Launcher to one-shot a Militia Dropship. Proto Breach Forge Gun could reasonably be expected to get that kill with one hit. If it's been set up with no HP or Resistance modules. And LAVs should be target practice. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
570
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Posted - 2013.07.15 12:03:00 -
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Ye I know what I did . Shame on me for lowering myself to the same levle and yip my spelling is famously atrocious. Also name calling isnt a personal attack its a time honerd tradition. Pointing out someones bad spelling in the middle of a debate is going for the personal attack style. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
710
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Posted - 2013.07.15 12:06:00 -
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this is still alive eh? |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
265
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:04:00 -
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Bring back the marauders! I want my Sagaris! Oh, and refund my Enforcer SP when you bring the marauders back, it's crap compared to marauders |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
410
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:16:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Void Echo wrote:
there is absolutely no way that is fair, as iv said a month before now, it should require a minimum of 2 proto av guy to take down a proto HAV.
Why? Because of the ISK investment? You can't balance with ISK. Just because you or I spend a couple of mill on our tanks doesn't mean we suddenly deserve to outclass a capable and tactically sound opponent. In the hypothetical world were a tank were to stand in front of a guy with a proto forge, they should have an equal chance of destroying each other. Good tankers will survive, bad ones will go broke or find sugar daddies. that's the way it is now, and tanking is nearly extinct because of players like you. and I know that's what you want, to get rid of all vehicles and make this cod or bf. this is not balanced and never will be as long as infantry are in control of balancing everything, why do you think everyone hates you
Extinct ? Each game i join i see the exactly same people riding tanks that were riding tanks months ago, also those same people are on the forums bitchin because their tanks are waaay to weak...then they go 30/0+ per ambush uncontested.
Extinct my *ss. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
169
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:17:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Void Echo wrote:
LOL @ 1 proto AV to take down a proto HAV, your adorable
1 guy with proto proxy mines, no more tank. Seems fair to me. Oh, you don't want balance? I see. there is no balance in war. this game is about war. |
Gogo O'Dell
Psygod9 rise of legion
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:15:00 -
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1 STD tank = 1 pro av, 2 adv av, 3 std av, 4 mlt av 1 ADV tank = 2 pro av, 3 adv av, 4 std av, 5 mlt av 1 PRO tank = 3 pro av, 4 adv, 5 std, 6 mlt
this of courserequires that we get real advanced tanks scaled up the same way dropsuits are. (2-8 more slots, 100% more PG) |
Gogo O'Dell
Psygod9 rise of legion
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:16:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Void Echo wrote:
LOL @ 1 proto AV to take down a proto HAV, your adorable
1 guy with proto proxy mines, no more tank. Seems fair to me. Oh, you don't want balance? I see. there is no balance in war. this game is about war.
What would you say if we had true proto tanks that only another pro tank or 3 proto forges working together could kill? |
Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
185
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:23:00 -
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I'm staying out of this debate overall because I don't drive HAVs, but there's one thing I had to facepalm.
pegasis prime wrote:Also name calling isnt a personal attack its a time honerd tradition. Pointing out someones bad spelling in the middle of a debate is going for the personal attack style. Seriously? I mean. Seriously?
Give me a few minutes to bang my head on my desk before the discussion resumes. |
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Xender17
Intrepidus XI EoN.
337
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:26:00 -
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AV grenades power of an light AV weapon in the palm of everyones hand. Flux grenades the power of a forge gun in everyones hand. (Vs shield tanks) cost: less than 20,000 People to take down tank? any number... usually 2. of course armor isn't affected by flux though... But shields are affected by both. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
572
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:30:00 -
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Goric Rumis wrote:I'm staying out of this debate overall because I don't drive HAVs, but there's one thing I had to facepalm. pegasis prime wrote:Also name calling isnt a personal attack its a time honerd tradition. Pointing out someones bad spelling in the middle of a debate is going for the personal attack style. Seriously? I mean. Seriously? Give me a few minutes to bang my head on my desk before the discussion resumes.
Dude learn the difference between a troll response and a reall response
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War
2362
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:17:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:AV grenades power of an light AV weapon in the palm of everyones hand. Flux grenades the power of a forge gun in everyones hand. (Vs shield tanks) cost: less than 20,000 People to take down tank? any number... usually 2. of course armor isn't affected by flux though... But shields are affected by both. Flux grenades definitely aren't the power of a forge gun. Forges now do 90% damage against shields. |
Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
185
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:47:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Goric Rumis wrote:I'm staying out of this debate overall because I don't drive HAVs, but there's one thing I had to facepalm. pegasis prime wrote:Also name calling isnt a personal attack its a time honerd tradition. Pointing out someones bad spelling in the middle of a debate is going for the personal attack style. Seriously? I mean. Seriously? Give me a few minutes to bang my head on my desk before the discussion resumes. Dude learn the difference between a troll response and a reall response Okay, good. I attribute the misunderstanding to the total absurdity of some of the ideas being thrown around as logical in this thread. But as I said, staying out of it. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:53:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:The Attorney General wrote:LOL @ 3 proto AV to take down a proto tank.
You're high.
LOL @ 1 proto AV to take down a proto HAV, your adorable i will be soloing proto tanks |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
332
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:55:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Iv been wondering since we all have our own idea of what an acceptible ammount of AV to destroy a tank ?
I personally think it should be as follows
Swarms
6 malitia swarmers to tackle a std tank
4 std swarmers to take down std tank
3 adv swarms to tacke a std tank
2 proto swarmers to tacke a std tank.
MLT swarms do the same damage as STD swarms, so I don't think you actually drive a tank. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
572
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:55:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Iv been wondering since we all have our own idea of what an acceptible ammount of AV to destroy a tank ?
I personally think it should be as follows
Swarms
6 malitia swarmers to tackle a std tank
4 std swarmers to take down std tank
3 adv swarms to tacke a std tank
2 proto swarmers to tacke a std tank.
MLT swarms do the same damage as STD swarms, so I don't think you actually drive a tank.
Firstly fitting requirments are higher. Secondly im not sure about thus but I think they take longer to reload and have less In the clip and thusly less dps. And you can think all you want (your not verry good at it apparently) if I see you in my tank ill smash you back to your mcc. |
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