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Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:09:00 -
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Granted I've done both. And I've hated both.
Here's what I mean. I've been in matches that are fun at first. Our corp has managed to get not just 6 players, but 12 players (read: two squads) in same match on the same side. It is great fun to be able to stomp the hell out of well organized squads. But after a while, it the fun dies out, or we start going up against people who aren't even in a squad and are a bunch of newberries after "graduating" from the Academy.
I also notice the harder the pubstomp, the more likely people are to AFK inside the MCC, whether that be just sitting there idly while waiting for the match to end, "rage-quitting", or sniping out of the MCC and the redlines.
Now granted you could try sneaking around the back, but how? Even more organized teams will kill you coming out of the MCC. Even if you hit the ground, you are guaranteed to be alive for an average of 10 seconds before run over by an LAV, Thale'd, Ishukone Forge'd, or Wirkomi Swarm'd.
And I've been the player that has been pubstomped as well. I'll give it my all and setup perimeters, infiltrated from the back, given my team PLENTY of spawn points, only to watch blueberries not use them effectively or watch as the enemy easily adapt to the situation and cause all my efforts to be wasted. Wasted ISK and time is not beneficial. So what do you do?
Gather resources in the best way possible and in some cases, the safest way possible. Right now, sitting in the MCC can yield some 100K isk and around 3 to 5K SP (more with boosters). Why leave the MCC when you know that a full team that is well known and very good is waiting for you on the other side?
On top of that, many - myself included - hate the fact that it is possible to generate passive income and ISK for doing nothing. Even though I admittedly AFK, sometimes, I've already gone negative into my wallet. Sure, KDR doesn't matter but underlying under every FPSer's mind, they know it can show overall performance. Over my career, my KDR has dropped switching to a logistics suit user from around 2.2 to a 1.87. Given it's the same person, who would you choose: me at 2.2 KDR or me at 1.87 KDR?
My favorite matches are when games are fun and games are close with both sides trying all different things to get victory. But right now, pubstompers are killing the game's population by overwhelming new players. These new players give up and you lose your player base and your player count, or you see people resorting to being an "inactive" player as setting up a campfire in the MCC.
So next time someone cries about the MCC camping, remember to take a step back and see if they are legitimately trying to solve the problem, or if they are simply the cause of the problem.
TL;DR: Pubstomping is causing people to AFK in the MCC, or worse yet is castrating the growth of the player base. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:24:00 -
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Blanket jr wrote:Yes so what? Afking is a viable tactic here. HTFU
HTFU? Do you even know what that means?
And that's another thing: the "HTFU" rhetoric has gotten so out of control here it's almost unbearable to hear it anymore.
During the days of EVE, it was used in a classier tone. It was directed at those who were crying about something that seemed unfair, but was connected with the fact that they wanted to be catered to.
The fact that you are using it here proves to me even more that this player base is dying. It is sad to watch.  |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:37:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:If they want to fix the Murder Taxi Game, which they don't, the simplest solution is to remove the ability to kill with a LAV.
Actually, all they would have to do is remove the BPO for the LAV and replace with a BPO for a dropship.
After all, those are paper thin and still get you to where you need to be.
Aspiring pilots get to learn without ISK sink.
Free LAVs are not a problem there are no more free LAVs.
But then I would have to let go of my two Saga BPOs. But if that's what it has to come down to, I'm all for making those into Myron or Viper BPOs.  |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.07.15 00:57:00 -
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Short Change Heroine wrote:But think.. if people see a skirmish game like the above, do you really believe they will eventually move on to PC.. which is way worse for stomping newer corps?
And there in lies the dilemma. Which way should Dust go toward? Make the game hardcore, lose player base to a simple handful of elite. Make the game cater too much toward the casuals, it becomes to easy and boring to the elite and then you have to be in other competition with other casual FPS games.
I don't have a solution off the top of my head either, but the EVE-Dust link needs to open up more. Allow us to become more apart of the EVE community. I feel like most of these battles still don't matter or make a difference in the EVE universe as of yet. I understand we can't flood the economies yet; that's not what I was getting at, but allow us gather resources to put an end to AFKing in the MCC. (Would you rather sit and not do anything in the MCC granting no SP and no ISK? Or would you rather do a game mode that allows you to somehow harvest materials and ISK for your gear, allowing you to do something while honing your FPS and tactical skills?)
Or allow contracts to exist between EVE and Dust. Yes, EVE players can send money to Dust players but what if EVE players could contract a corporation to attack a district? And what if there was an initial ISK investment on the table for the mercs to buy gear and clones, equipped and ready for battle, and then receive the lucrative amount when they capture the district? Or better yet, put up an "open" contract that gives anyone who attacks it a chance to win whatever the contract amount is on that district? 
In any case, we need more influence in the EVE universe, and not just be some side show jester joke. |
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