Keep splash damage at 1m across all models.

Done.

Give it a rest. You're the only person on these forums who doesn't think the weapon is OP. All other conversations are on how best to nerf it.

Hmm, the top corps must really suck at this game since they all seem to use the flaylock so much

Ohhhhh, you meant counter the flaylock WITH the flaylock.

My bad. Brilliance.

Keep the splash radius the same, but drastically lower its splash damage and increase the projectile speed. Bam. Requires skill to use, but can still be used as a suppressive weapon or used to mop up wounded enemies.

A balance suggestion is just that, a suggestion, quit getting so bent out of shape; you act like we're shooting you with a flaylock or something.

R'adeh Hunt we're still waiting on your "research"...

Your "counters" always revert to namecalling...it seems you are just trying to avoid to finally prove your point, but don't worry I can be patient.

Shotgun is a light weapon
Shotgun requires speed to get up close quickly
Shotguns don't deal damage when you miss
Shotguns have significantly longer reload
Shotguns suffer much more from hit detection

These arguments are mostly pointless because the majority of Flaylock defenders lack the ability to see that it's a SIDEARM, and that it is significantly easier to use effectively than SMGs, Scrambler Pistols, or Nova Knives.

It's easier to use than SMGs? I can mow down a heavy in one clip from my SMG, in several seconds, my fittings are split 50/50 between SMG and Flaylock. Yes, it's a sidearm, yes, it's powerful, if you skill up to ADV, even Proto with proficiency, and rightly so, it should be, we've worked for it. The shotgun has 6 OHK's in the clip, the Flaylock has ONE kill in the clip, by the time you reload, if you're against more than one person, you are dead. It's not as easy to use as people are making out, the splash range is pitiful AND it's ALREADY been nerfed, the core used to have 3m splash radius, now it has two.

Plasma Cannon Sidearm, is that what you people want? ****.

1.) Generic rabble, it's a splash damage weapon. You can only move so quickly in so many ways, and many of those ways fit within the corelocks splash radius if aimed just a little.
2.) Generic rabble. We know this, this applies to anything in game. Also, you have a splash damage weapon with high direct damage, so even if they stand still, AND you miss, you'll still do damage
3.) Generic rabble. We know this, it's part of the game. You have a splash damage weapon, which largely negates much of what counts for cover on these maps if aimed properly.
4.) This is reasonable advice, though the reload is lightning fast, and many people are starting to carry 2
5.) This again doesn't matter because splash damage. I use the advanced one from time to time and I never ever have an issue hitting people strafing me, and I'm a freaking Heavy
6.) Generic rabble / partway useful advice. We know to keep distance, unless we run CQC builds, which are largely negated by this sidearm weapon. Keeping your distance does help to throw of flaylock shots, because it's harder for them to get a height advantage on you.
7.) Flaylock is a sidearm that works at extreme close to medium / midlong range (if above) AR requires you to constantly track while strafing and trying to get headshots. The recoil still isn't high enough, and we could use a jam / overheat on the guns, but overall, the two battles are drastically different.

I can't wait for your butthurt when they nerf the Flaylock into oblivion

I will drink your QQ tears.

You were telling us that you can kill a heavy with one clip of a SMG, this seems like a 1on1 situation to me.
Then you start talking about the flaylock versus more than ONE enemy...

You're telling us that a shotgun has a 6 kill-potential and the flaylock only has a 1-kill potential with 1 clip without going into the playstyles of both weapons.

I'm thinking you don't know what you are talking about....

Stopped reading here.

Most cover in this game is short and thin, for the most part. When you have a weapon with reasonable splash radius and high splash damage, you can aim just behind the corner that they're using as cover, or jumping up and shooting just behind the cover.

Either instance negates cover, and deals near optimal damage.

What I said is

Better fix is to Remove them, we already have the Mass Driver which is now better since the splash damage has been fixed.

We should remove any sidearm that isn't a nova knife then, at least until we get nova swords

You guys are just being ridiculous. I've engaged proto heavies with boundless hmgs which they put away to shoot core flaylocks at me. I've seen people miss all the majority of their AR shots because of a simple left to right strafe, and they pull out a flaylock to shoot at my feet for 400 dmg. This thing has totally altered the way battles go, from pubstomps to very competitive PC battles

The only time the flaylock is at a disadvantage is against other flaylocks and fast shotgunners with lots of stamina to close gap and win the ensuing bunnyhop war as flaylocks are spammed at feet, and even that can be tipped in flaylocks favor with flux grenades.

@Dale Templar: I was just arguing that if you try to shoot a heavy witha SMG with more enemies around you would probably end up dead too like when you face a group of people with a flaylock. Do you have to get up close with a flaylock to kill someone? Which has the potential to get you killed first? shooting from a distance or running up close?

Anyway it's fun to talk about weapons without highlighting all variables. Let us endthis discussion and wait untill R'adeh Hunt drops his "research".

Or shooting at someone on higher ground.

Linking me to the search-function doesn't help me as I already stated that I can't find the data you are referring to...maybe it doesn't exist...I don't know...so why don't you link me to that data? or are you afraid that the data isn't in your favor?

PS: what weapon isn't in disadvantage if there is cover around...it's also the first time I would see a soldier charge multiple people with a PISTOL at range...I thought you mastered pistols?

Apparently you would like to spend more than 20min+ to convince everyone that there is nothing wrong with the flaylock just because you say so.

You have a lot of credibilty .

I've been playing this game since this time last year. SMGs and Scrambler Pistols have been around that entire time and I've never seen a sustained, never mind prolific, attempt to nerf either. The Flaylock has been out little more than a month and has attracted the ire of pretty much everyone who plays PC, and most of everyone else.
So don't tell me a nerf of one sidearm will just draw that attention to the others, it's BS.
When a sidearm outdoes the efficacy of a light weapon, there is a problem that needs addressing.

A splash radius of 1m will maintain its DPS for skilled players, will hold it in keeping with its weapon type (they're rockets not grenades), and will remove the weapon's disproportionate increase in effectiveness from standard to proto.

"That's because very few people have actually bothered to skill the SMG/SP to proto level."

Plenty have. Flaylocks saw a sudden boost in activity when their use reached a critical mass of people realising how powerful they were.
Your reasoning is also backwards. People don't think it's OP because more have skilled into it. People skilled into it because it's OP.

I don't think I'll be responding to any more of your posts. You're either naive, stupid, or a troll.

best way to fix flaylock is to remove it :D