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Protected Void
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:48:00 -
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Has CCP acknowledged there is something wrong with them? I've been searching, but haven't found any official confirmation that they're not working properly.
It's been mentioned in numerous threads, but just as a recap of the problem I'm talking about:
- The passive scanner is unreliable in putting the enemy's little arrows on the radar. Sometimes they pop up, sometimes they don't. It seems unlikely it is purely a scan profile vs. scan precision problem, since I regularly get slaughtered by heavies that have snuck up on my scout suit while I'm hacking something. Also, I have on several occasions come running around a corner, with nothing on my radar, only to face multiple enemies - including several heavies - and of course get blown to bits. It seems unlikely that spending a bunch of SP and a low slot to lower scan profile below scout detection levels is a common phenomenon among heavies.
Hm...now that I think it through, I have a theory as to what the main cause of the problem is: Scan frequency. Ie: how often does the passive scanner pulse to discover new units nearby? And is this influenced by latency issues?
Points to support this theory:
1) Getting shot to bits while hacking an objective, with no warning on the radar, might be a heavy spawning in at a lucky spot (for him), so he can just open fire instantaneously, instead of maneuvering into position. If the scanner looks for new targets, say, once a second, he wouldn't show up before he kills me.
2) If someone close by actually does show up on the radar, he seems to stay there as long as I keep him within my scanner range.
3) When getting surprised by someone around the corner or similar, I tend to be sprinting. As a scout with a Complex Kinetic Catalyzer or two fitted, I have a sprint speed just below or over 10 m/s. After the inexplicable scout scanner range nerf that came with uprising, I have a base range of 10 meters, which gets upped to 15 meters (whoopteedoo) by my Gallente scout suit skill. So: if the scanner pings for new targets when I'm 16 meters away from an enemy, I don't see them. If I'm sprinting, I'm just 6 meters away from him after a second has passed. Ie: he's just around the corner as I come around it. So with a bit of bad luck and timing, it's entirely feasible that my scanner doesn't update quickly enough to cope with my sprinting speed and low range.
If my theory is right, this severely detracts from what should be the scout's primary advantage; speed. |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:57:00 -
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Didn't someone test this a while ago and find that it only was reliable in front of you? I forget...let me do some digging. |
Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves
RUST415
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:58:00 -
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I sometimes feel that my passive scanner doesn't work sometimes and as one of the few remaining laser users i depend on that information heavily. Does the height at which enemy targets stand have an effect on whether the passive scanner picks up enemy signals or not? Cause I've had heavies and all sorts of suits creep up behind me and I can't keep my head on a swivel 24/7. |
S3dINS Destiva
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:07:00 -
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In my experience of sneaky sneaky it seems that there's a 60-90 degree (ish) scan arc to the front of you. If that's what you meant. If not I have no info to contribute. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:30:00 -
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Passive scan range is shorter than the effective range on a Shotgun. It's also, unlike previous builds, the same on ALL suits (unless they changed it in 1.2, but when I checked right before 1.2, it was still stupidly low).
You also have LoS scanning, which is a 60 degree arc in front of you, but ISN'T your passive scanners. |
Blanket jr
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:54:00 -
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Scanners work marvelously, i use one all the time. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1972
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:04:00 -
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Blanket jr wrote:Scanners work marvelously, i use one all the time.
He's talking about passive scanning, not the active scanner equipment item. |
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