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Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming EoN. 487	Posted - 2013.07.13 18:49:00 - [1] - Quote Shouldn't even be a discussion, since when does a person carrying 3(YES THREE) contact nades that can be replenished in seconds belong in a FPS game? This is a complete and utter joke, what other game does this? On top of that, they are easily bought at low level with Aurum. Theres a reason games give people 1 nade and if you can get ammo back the nades take longer to replenish(like Battlefield 3).
Rian CuThalion D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass 58	Posted - 2013.07.13 18:55:00 - [2] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Shouldn't even be a discussion, since when does a person carrying 3(YES THREE) contact nades that can be replenished in seconds belong in a FPS game? This is a complete and utter joke, what other game does this? On top of that, they are easily bought at low level with Aurum. Theres a reason games give people 1 nade and if you can get ammo back the nades take longer to replenish(like Battlefield 3). Then go back to BF3. But seriously, the grenades themselves do less damage than their regular locus counterparts. So there is a trade off: instant explosion with less damage or more damage with a timer. Change your approach/play style when you encounter them like every other weapon in the game.
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming EoN. 487	Posted - 2013.07.13 18:57:00 - [3] - Quote Rian CuThalion wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Shouldn't even be a discussion, since when does a person carrying 3(YES THREE) contact nades that can be replenished in seconds belong in a FPS game? This is a complete and utter joke, what other game does this? On top of that, they are easily bought at low level with Aurum. Theres a reason games give people 1 nade and if you can get ammo back the nades take longer to replenish(like Battlefield 3). Then go back to BF3. But seriously, the grenades themselves do less damage than their regular locus counterparts. So there is a trade off: instant explosion with less damage or more damage with a timer. Change your approach/play style when you encounter them like every other weapon in the game. Hahahhaha dude go play a real PC match. Where you got 8 guys in a compound 5 with flaylocks and like 6 all throwing contact nades. Its people like you that can only give feedback from pubs that ruin the competitive side of this game.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2728	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:06:00 - [4] - Quote Rian CuThalion wrote: Then go back to BF3. But seriously, the grenades themselves do less damage than their regular locus counterparts. So there is a trade off: instant explosion with less damage or more damage with a timer. Change your approach/play style when you encounter them like every other weapon in the game. irrelevant opinion from someone who only pubs.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1260	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:14:00 - [5] - Quote +1 Adapt or die isn't appropriate in this situation. In close quarters fused nades and flaylock dominate. The only counter is moar fused nades or flaylock. This is a balance issue, not a QQ I am die thread. These two weapons need to be looked at. When PC matchs between some of the best corps and players in the game degenerate into who can spam the most obviously something is not working well.
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming EoN. 488	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:18:00 - [6] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: +1 Adapt or die isn't appropriate in this situation. In close quarters fused nades and flaylock dominate. The only counter is moar fused nades or flaylock. This is a balance issue, not a QQ I am die thread. These two weapons need to be looked at. When PC matchs between some of the best corps and players in the game degenerate into who can spam the most obviously something is not working well. Exactly !! Thank you :) I'll try not to MD u if i see u on field :D haha
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1260	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:33:00 - [7] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: +1 Adapt or die isn't appropriate in this situation. In close quarters fused nades and flaylock dominate. The only counter is moar fused nades or flaylock. This is a balance issue, not a QQ I am die thread. These two weapons need to be looked at. When PC matchs between some of the best corps and players in the game degenerate into who can spam the most obviously something is not working well. Exactly !! Thank you :) I'll try not to MD u if i see u on field :D haha lol Seriously the best way to get CCP to look at this is by showing them we wont tolerate bad design. Kujo or Marauder suggested a ban on these two weapons in PC. If we can all put our egos and dong measuring aside I'm sure we can call on the honor system to make PC about good gun game again. All the hating in the war room is good for a laugh but ultimately I want to see this game turn into a highly competitive, tactical shooter. For that to happen we can't exploit the FotM eveytime CCP borks a new weapon. Boycotting fused nades will get the attention of devs much faster than their graphs and spreadsheets will. Contact your directors. Lets make this happen. P.S. obviously we have to rename the eon loi war 'the fused flaylock war'
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming EoN. 492	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:40:00 - [8] - Quote I wish we could get everyone to agree to that, but i mean we got what? 1500+ in EoN, then you got LoI 1600+ and then Cronos 2000+ thats a lot of people to get all to agree to not use a weapon, let alone a weapon that is a crutch for most. Sounds like a great idea, but getting everyone on same page about, i dunno
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1261	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:44:00 - [9] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: I wish we could get everyone to agree to that, but i mean we got what? 1500+ in EoN, then you got LoI 1600+ and then Cronos 2000+ thats a lot of people to get all to agree to not use a weapon, let alone a weapon that is a crutch for most. Sounds like a great idea, but getting everyone on same page about, i dunno Just for PC. I don't expect to tell anyone how to play in pubs. Those of us in PC are there because we want to be. Most of us hate the spam. Lets remove that spam and we can all go back to sh!tting on each others aiming.
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming EoN. 492	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:45:00 - [10] - Quote Well yea i mean't PC, i dunno obv up to alliance leaders to talk and figure it out, but personally i dont see it happening.

Bendtner92 Internal Error. League of Infamy 724	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:53:00 - [11] - Quote Rian CuThalion wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Shouldn't even be a discussion, since when does a person carrying 3(YES THREE) contact nades that can be replenished in seconds belong in a FPS game? This is a complete and utter joke, what other game does this? On top of that, they are easily bought at low level with Aurum. Theres a reason games give people 1 nade and if you can get ammo back the nades take longer to replenish(like Battlefield 3). Then go back to BF3. But seriously, the grenades themselves do less damage than their regular locus counterparts. So there is a trade off: instant explosion with less damage or more damage with a timer. Change your approach/play style when you encounter them like every other weapon in the game. Since when do the contact nades do less damage than their non-contact counterpart? Fused Locus, Standard nade, does 400 damage. Locus, Standard nade, does 400 damage. M1 contact nade (can't remember exact name), Advanced nade, does 500 damage. M1 Locus, Advanced nade, does 500 damage.
Scottie MaCallan Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:56:00 - [12] - Quote hey guys what if instead of removing a problematic asset we talked about possible ways to balance an interesting variant of standard grenades that could actually contribute to varied playstyles without being the broken instapop button it is now? I made a thread just for doing that, go read it and yell at me, or don't and yell at me anyway!
TheEnd762 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2013.07.13 20:00:00 - [13] - Quote I wouldn't mind if they were removed, but only if they offered regular nades with shorter fuses, and the cook-to-explosion and throw-to-explosion times were exactly the same. As it is now, for non-contact nades to be practical, I'd have to compensate for the timer by throwing them 3 seconds after I'm dead.
Dj grammer Red Star Jr. EoN. 17	Posted - 2013.07.13 20:04:00 - [14] - Quote Rian CuThalion wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Shouldn't even be a discussion, since when does a person carrying 3(YES THREE) contact nades that can be replenished in seconds belong in a FPS game? This is a complete and utter joke, what other game does this? On top of that, they are easily bought at low level with Aurum. There's a reason games give people 1 nade and if you can get ammo back the nades take longer to replenish(like Battlefield 3). Then go back to BF3. But seriously, the grenades themselves do less damage than their regular locus counterparts. So there is a trade off: instant explosion with less damage or more damage with a timer. Change your approach/play style when you encounter them like every other weapon in the game. Rian did you even watch the war of LOL and EoN last night? it was Hellstorm versus TeamPlayers. I've seen nothing but contact grenades and flaylocks with some MD's here and there. I've been in a couple of PC battles with 1-arm bandits back then and all I have seen as contact grenades and MD's. So to clarify I play both PC and Pubs. Even in Pubs it is bad. The so called 'Adapt or Die' slogan is very inappropriate in this situation. Even worse you can buy the ISK prototype variant if you have the skill level but AUR for others lower than prototype. Also the contact grenades have less splash radius but still HAVE THE SAME SPLASH DAMAGE. This is a balance issue because PC battles will go from who has the most skill to who can spam the most explosives.
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming EoN. 494	Posted - 2013.07.13 20:04:00 - [15] - Quote Scottie MaCallan wrote: hey guys what if instead of removing a problematic asset we talked about possible ways to balance an interesting variant of standard grenades that could actually contribute to varied playstyles without being the broken instapop button it is now? I made a thread just for doing that, go read it and yell at me, or don't and yell at me anyway! Ill prob look into that more later getting tired of talking about nades lol my thing and prob the quickest fix, is dont give people 3 lethal nades and dont let em get them back from nanohives in a second.
Ankoku Daishogun Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 69	Posted - 2013.07.13 21:55:00 - [16] - Quote When one of the best snipers in the game throws away his sniper rifle and dons a flaylock, something is wrong.


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