your wearing what is basically terminator armour, theyre not built for speed, hate to say it man but you gotta deal with it. Id love a scout suit to have 800 ehp but that wouldn't make much sense either.

I'm talking about TURNING speed not walking speed. turning speed is a disadvantage in CQB. Period. Say whatever you want it's stupid and unfair.

Not to mention the fact that strafing while firing the weapon rapes its accuracy worse than any other weapon in the game, despite the fact that mechanically the accuracy couldn't degrade once it is fully spun up regardless of a user's movement.

Kind of an insult considering strafing is absolutely required in this game.

I was talking about turning speed dude, it would again make no sense if they could zip left to right like a fly yet couldn't move forwards or backwards like that. They are generally slow, if they had insane tracking speeds everybody would be FGin like a boss.

Turn speed restrictions should only apply to things like turrets.

If you're going to restrict a heavy in the same way you restrict a tank, then heavies should BE a ******* tank. Currently they aren't.

So equal rights, or better buffs.

I agree they need better buffs to armour and if caldari every see heavies before arthritis takes my hands, better shields.

This is how I see heavies should be

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Terminator_Armour#.UeFcqEJwZjo

Their not fast, not nimble, but your not gonna headshot them either or have a few dudes break them in seconds. They are walking tanks of destruction. So yea give them a damn buff instead of right now, where they are frankly ****** medium suits with more ehp.

So...Heavy is for point defense and HMG is for CQC...
yet if I play with a mouse at sensitivity 100, I can't horizontally track a running Medium suit guy because they are faster. I can only pray that they stop moving.
See the bullshit you have done here CCP?

I find it funny that Medium frames can strafe that well. You would think that they would do it slower

I find it funny that Medium frames can strafe that well. You would think that they would do it slower

Try being a nk scout an have a heavy jump an run circles an out strafe you = BS

IMHO heavies need this ridiculous movement speed affecting turn speed removed more than most classes to actually make them effective in all combat situations.

Even on point defence a medium suit can literally run through your stream of fire, get behind you and go to town on your ass. Hell a speed hacker can even get a point hack off before you can turn round to kill him.

In open play its a joke as as previously stated strafing is a winner against us fatties.

Just to be reasonably effective I personally give up using complex plates in favour of reps and reactive plates, so I can keep my gun on a target. Staying still and unleashing on choke points is no longer viable due to the new trend in explosives, getting 2/3 shotted by a sidearm with near 1400EHP is beyond a joke.

I can still bang with the best of them, but it's getting very boring and hard work just to do my job.

So on top of having a better damage output and significantly better tank....you now want to remove the one advantage medium and scout suits have?

Turn speed, not overall speed. We'd like to not be instantly negated by moving side to side and doing that do se do :/

When you say "turn speed", what you really mean is that you want the same tracking speed as medium and scout suits...which would simply make heavies OP.

When you say "turn speed", what you really mean is that you want the same tracking speed as medium and scout suits...which would simply make heavies OP.

No.

Even if we can track you we still have to deal with the fact that our shots are going to miss by virtue of having to strafe with a ridiculously inaccurate weapon, or stay still and take 100% of the incoming DPS from all sources.

Just because we have a high rate of fire doesn't mean that fire is going anywhere near you.

I haven't played Heavy since the latest patch. Did they nerf turn speed or HMGs again?

Before 1.2, turn speed on Heavies was fine. It was slower than the others, but it was still fine. The main problem has been the inability for CCP to properly balance mouse control, and the refusal of mouse users to deal with a turn speed cap that's absolutely necessary for balance reasons.

I think it's reasonable for the suits to be balanced WITHOUT a separate turn speed cap for each suit or frame size. But there definitely still needs to be a turn speed limit in some form.

So...Heavy is for point defense and HMG is for CQC...
yet if I play with a mouse at sensitivity 100, I can't horizontally track a running Medium suit guy because they are faster. I can only pray that they stop moving.
See the bullshit you have done here CCP?