Every weapon considered AV has a bonus towards armor. Every last one. I didn't even know that until just now.


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Nope. Plasma cannon.

Good thing that that thing is a terrible terrible AV weapon.

Yep, the Plasma Cannon eats shields.. if you can hit the target that is.

It's a multi-purpose weapon, not just AV. Read the description.

Well if you're talking about weapons that are only used against vehicles, that only counts AV nades and Swarms.

It's a multi-purpose weapon, not just AV. Read the description.

Nope. The adv plasma cannon is only VERY slightly more effective against shields than an adv swarm launcher. The proto swarm launcher actualy does a good deal more damage to shields than a proto plasma cannon.

Lesson: CCP and math don't mix.

Forge Gun, Railgun, Remote Explosive, Proxy Mines all do extra damage to armor.

Forge Gun = anti-infantry/vehicle

Remote Explosives = anti-infantry (really not all that effective for AV)

I thought the Forge Gun was 100% to shield and armour...

I thought the Forge Gun was 100% to shield and armour...

I don't know what Plasma Cannon you using .. but my advanced one destroys shields, but is useless against armor..In fact my AV Commando uses this combo ;

Plasma Cannon to lower the shields, then Swarm Launcher to destroy the armor.

Forge Guns are specified for AV. Yes, they can be used for AI purposes (very easily in fact), but it's not a dual-purpose weapon.

I guess you've never tried putting down RE's right in front of a vehicle as it passes by without seeing you and blowing it to ****

I re-quote this from the post above ;

I got 6 kill assist in a row yesterday by shooting at a CRU.. It dropped the shields of everyone near the CRU to 0.

Trust me.. that thing EATS through shields.. you math are wrong.

Yes, I went to college, majored in math, and my math is definitely the problem here.

Forge Guns are better against shields than they are armor.

Are you counting shield resistances in your math to ? Just asking....

Tank with resistances my Swarm Launchers where doing nothing, Plasma Cannon started to drop its shields very quickly .. explain that with you math.

Learn to read.


Peace, Godin

Thanks for the link.. i was looking for it just now....

1. Yes resistances were taken into account. What actually was not taken into account was RoF, to which the swarm launcher also out performs the plasma cannon on account of having to reload after every shot. I'd have to run the numbers but I am pretty sure I am right on this one as well.

2. You are using std swarms and std plasma cannon for your comparison, The std plasma cannon does infact out perform the std swarm launcher (if you discount the reload factor). As well, the adv plasma cannon also out performs the adv swarm launcher but only VERY slightly (once again only if we discount the reload factor). The proto swarm launcher, on the other hand, strait up out performs the the proto plasma cannon by quite a good margin.

I have a very nice Light Weapons reload bonus with my Commando suit.. add that to your math.

Ohh... And i using Adv Plasma Cannon and Advanced Swarm launcher.

Other than arguing over spreadsheet math... is there a point to this?

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Even with the bonus reload time, you still have to also factor in target acquisition as well. With the swarms, imideatly after you fire a shot you are capable of staying on target with the weapon's reticle, making it very easy to aquire your next shot. Where as, with the plasma cannon you must dip the weapon after every shot, in order to reload the weapon, forcing you to require your target, which could take anywhere from one to two or more second.

Dude I'm telling you man the plasma cannon is just an all around terrible AV weapon.

I was talking about the damage multipliers ... THAT is what i don't agree with you.