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Fire of Prometheus
Solaris Space Marines
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:23:00 -
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Hi I was wondering if someone could help me out. I currently use mainly assault rifles but noticed that there are automatic scrambler rifles so I was wondering how they compare to assault rifles? |
gbt555
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:23:00 -
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No |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
149
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:25:00 -
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two complex dmg mods and you wont look back to that gallente filth |
Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught
RISE of LEGION
496
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:28:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:two complex dmg mods and you wont look back to that gallente filth
Thats not what your mom said!
...sorry...had to... |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:29:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hi I was wondering if someone could help me out. I currently use mainly assault rifles but noticed that there are automatic scrambler rifles so I was wondering how they compare to assault rifles?
The ASR can stand and trade with AR all day.
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1095
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:30:00 -
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If I remember correctly at a proto level the assault version wont overheat even after using up the entire magazine |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
115
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:31:00 -
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Pros:
130% damage versus shields.
Nice ACOG-like ADS
Cons:
70% damage versus armor.
They have a lot more spread than the Assault Rifle because there is no sharpshooter skill for them.
[*] They have the possiblity to overheat, though it'll take 2 clips to make that happen. |
Decasor
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:32:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hi I was wondering if someone could help me out. I currently use mainly assault rifles but noticed that there are automatic scrambler rifles so I was wondering how they compare to assault rifles?
They have incredibly sights (what laser rifles should have) and sound really good to fire. What they do to shields is nothing short of poetry, and of course since FOTM is heavily shield tanked Caldari logi... you get the idea.
If anything was going to convince me to ditch the scout suit and go assault this would be it. AR's are effective, but they aren't fun imo. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
654
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:38:00 -
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I'd advice you try the basic variants of them because of the charge function. Put some damage mods on and you can end most engagements with a single headshod. The sheer damage output when charged makes is also viable well into falloff range if the enemy is not too armor heavy.
Also, there's literally no kick on the basic variands aswell as a RoF cap that is similar (or equal) to pre-nerf tac ARs which makes them the to go fix for disgruntled ex-tac users. |
Decasor
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:41:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:I'd advice you try the basic variants of them because of the charge function. Put some damage mods on and you can end most engagements with a single headshod. The sheer damage output when charged makes is also viable well into falloff range if the enemy is not too armor heavy.
Also, there's literally no kick on the basic variands aswell as a RoF cap that is similar (or equal) to pre-nerf tac ARs which makes them the to go fix for disgruntled ex-tac users.
This is a good point. You get to try one for 14k SP (therabouts) rather than 400k SP for the Assault version.
I still haven't decided what is best. The basic one has a lot more hitting power per shot and the charge is very handy at times. |
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Amarrian Desperado
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:53:00 -
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I personally kinda regretted spending the skillpoints.. it sounded nice on paper (an assault rifle that does extra damage to shields? awesome! that'll show the callogi fotm scrubs!) but in practice... meh. It works, but the damage type isn't really as awesome as it sounds. Sure you chew through their shields... but then you get to their armor.
If you already have gallente assault rifles trained, why spend all the SP to crosstrain both "assault" rifles when you can just use the regular gallente assault rifle and do consistent damage all the way through?
The standard charge scrambler rifle is awesome though as noted above - even if your aim isn't so good, you can spam a lot of uncharged attacks before it overheats, it still does quite a bit of damage with no charge |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
1231
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:54:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Pros:
130% damage versus shields.
Nice ACOG-like ADS
Cons:
70% damage versus armor.
They have a lot more spread than the Assault Rifle because there is no sharpshooter skill for them.
They have the possiblity to overheat, though it'll take 2 clips to make that happen.
They have 120% against shields and 80% against armor. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2429
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:06:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hi I was wondering if someone could help me out. I currently use mainly assault rifles but noticed that there are automatic scrambler rifles so I was wondering how they compare to assault rifles?
I've been having quite a bit of success with them. They're a great tool against the prevalence of CalLogi. |
Boot Booter
Elite Gamers Militia
31
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:08:00 -
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There are so pros and some cons of the ASR.
Pro's
-Looks and sounds really cool.
-Larger clip than AR.
-More damage to shields (lots of shield tankers these days).
-Slightly less CPU/PG than the same level SR.
-Overheating is really not an issue.
Cons.
-And then you get to the armor... I tend to get a lot of assists using this weapon because its just plain difficult to finish off armor with it.
-Bounces around a lot after continous firing. (making finishing armor even more difficult... )
-Doesn't seem to hit as hard as a AR, maybe because of the accuracy issue
Personally, I prefer the regular version of the SR to both the AR and the ASR for a few reasons.
-It is a lot of fun and really versitile once you get used to it
-the clip feels giant.. you can easily finish off any opponent without reloading (assuming you can aim)
-it packs a very serious punch especially to shields
-Very accurate!
Goodluck |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
557
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:17:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hi I was wondering if someone could help me out. I currently use mainly assault rifles but noticed that there are automatic scrambler rifles so I was wondering how they compare to assault rifles?
As one who only used Amarrian equipment and weaponry I say yes but they are situation assault weapons not generic AR substitutes. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
30
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:17:00 -
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I've used some SRs myself and I have a few tips.
1. Don't charge 90% of the time, you will overheat too quickly and if engaged, you will help kill yourself.
2. Spam the trigger instead, and keep an eye on the overheat.
3. Run Amarr Assualt.
4. Don't worry about running out of bullets in a magazine, overheating is probably gonna stop you from shooting first.
Good luck. |
Fire of Prometheus
Solaris Space Marines
6
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:18:00 -
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Thanks guys, I think I'll experiment with the standard SR and see where that takes me. :) |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
558
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:20:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Thanks guys, I think I'll experiment with the standard SR and see where that takes me. :)
Despite what people say about the rifle it can be devastating when used in tight CQC fights as well to lay down some pretty decent suppression on players, all amarrian weapons are essentially about trying to dictate the range of an engagement and suppression of opposition at that range. |
Fire of Prometheus
Solaris Space Marines
6
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:31:00 -
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I see, I just played a match with a basic amarr assault drop suit using the standard SR and it had its moments |
Darth-Carbonite GIO
R.I.f.t
27
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:40:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:If I remember correctly at a proto level the assault version wont overheat even after using up the entire magazine
^This is true. Go scrambler and you'll never go back. Seriously, if you're looking for something more exotic (and fun) than your average AR, give it a whirl. Plus the Carthum is just so sexy |
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HYENAKILLER X
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:45:00 -
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All I can tell you is the balac assualt rifle is the greatest weapon I have ever used. I have never used a scrambler, but I kill heavies in stand offs with gex, nothing stands and I mean nothing stands against a properly used balacs assualt rifle. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:54:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:All I can tell you is the balac assualt rifle is the greatest weapon I have ever used. I have never used a scrambler, but I kill heavies in stand offs with gex, nothing stands and I mean nothing stands against a properly used balacs assualt rifle.
An officer weapon vs a standard weapon 
I'm not sure what the comparison here is supposed to be. |
Fire of Prometheus
Solaris Space Marines
6
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:58:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:Delta 749 wrote:If I remember correctly at a proto level the assault version wont overheat even after using up the entire magazine ^This is true. Go scrambler and you'll never go back. Seriously, if you're looking for something more exotic (and fun) than your average AR, give it a whirl. Plus the Carthum is just so sexy
^Lol and ya Im thinking about specing into them now :) |
Fire of Prometheus
Solaris Space Marines
6
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:59:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:Delta 749 wrote:If I remember correctly at a proto level the assault version wont overheat even after using up the entire magazine ^This is true. Go scrambler and you'll never go back. Seriously, if you're looking for something more exotic (and fun) than your average AR, give it a whirl. Plus the Carthum is just so sexy
^Lol and ya Im thinking about specing into them now :) |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
444
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Posted - 2013.07.13 02:42:00 -
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I use the advanced ASR in my Commando fit (could use the proto version but I'd have to sacrifice a lot of mods and it would triple the price of my suit for what is slightly better weapon). For a while I thought it was decent but had trouble with the rare armor tanked enemies. After just one level in proficiency I noticed a huge change.
Despite what some may say, I believe it is a great weapon for most situations or at least whatever situations an AR is good for. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
371
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Posted - 2013.07.13 02:43:00 -
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I say use them.
They are very fun and very effective.
Use the Assault Variant though.
Very good gun. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
198
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Posted - 2013.07.13 02:44:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Hi I was wondering if someone could help me out. I currently use mainly assault rifles but noticed that there are automatic scrambler rifles so I was wondering how they compare to assault rifles?
ar's are the most op gun in the game. sr's are okay. |
HYENAKILLER X
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.07.13 03:14:00 -
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Karazantor wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:All I can tell you is the balac assualt rifle is the greatest weapon I have ever used. I have never used a scrambler, but I kill heavies in stand offs with gex, nothing stands and I mean nothing stands against a properly used balacs assualt rifle. An officer weapon vs a standard weapon I'm not sure what the comparison here is supposed to be.
Whoops. Also the balacs assualt rifle is amazing. If you go scrambler youll never see the balacs. Also I was making case for the gex....poorly. Whoops but balacs just kick sooooooooooooo much a$$.
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