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Dust Project 514 wrote:

Also for those interested in the potential dmg per clip these things can dish out.

Based on LV5 Stats (not including Dmg mods):

Carthum Assault SP

88.0 HP + 15% Pro

= 101.2 HP x 3.5% HDmg

= 358 HP per head shot x 11 Shots

= 3942 HP potential in one clip.

TY-5 Breach SP

134.4 HP + 15% Pro

= 154.56 x 3.5 HDmg

= 540.96 HP per head shot x 9 Shots

= 4868.64 HP potential in one clip.

And for the ultimate potential. The Lv5 Minmatar Assault with 5 Complex Dmg Mods and Lv5 Proficiency:
NOTE: I'm assuming the Dmg mods stacking penalty is 50%. per additional mod.

Wolfman's PCP-30 SP

96 HP + 42% (15% Pro plus 5 Dmg mods reduced at 25% effectiveness per additional mod)

= 136.32 HP x 3.5 HDmg

= 477.12 HP per head shot x 13 Shots

= 6202.56 HP potential per clip.

TY-5 Breach SP

134.4 + 42%

= 190.848 HP x 3.5

= 667.968 HP per headshot x 11

= 7347.648 Who cares about potential. Anyone who isn't a armor tanking heavy, won't survive one headshot from this.

You're welcome.

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Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 159	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:11:00 - [1] - Quote Just a few minutes ago from this post. Mode: Ambush Gear used: Militia Amarr Medium Frame 2 Basic Scrambler pistols 2 Complex Dmg mods Militia Repair Tool Battle Report: 15 Kills (I had the most kills) 9 Head Shot Kills 2 Kill Assists 9847 Dmg Dealt 3 Deaths 800 WP 3rd place. And our team lost. Lol. THIS is why I'm a scrambler pistol enthusiast. Because it generally used to use in a fight, but when you know how to hone its strength and dominate with it, it FEELS SO GOOOOOD! This is why I warn you guys. Don't underestimate the hand cannon. I just wanted to share. (n+íGùòGÇ+Gùòn+í)
A B Ablabab The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 84	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:15:00 - [2] - Quote Thank you for this post. I've been waiting for people to skill into sidearms other than the flaylock and tell us how good they are. A nice bit of evidence the game is more balanced than people are saying.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 577	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:26:00 - [3] - Quote I have 390 of IA5 Tactical scrambler pistol. I am going to begin using them hopefully a month or two from now before I transition to the PS4. So any tips on using scrambler pistols and does the tactical variant have a sight or more range?
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1111	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:27:00 - [4] - Quote A B Ablabab wrote: Thank you for this post. I've been waiting for people to skill into sidearms other than the flaylock and tell us how good they are. A nice bit of evidence the game is more balanced than people are saying. Doc Holliday from the Imperfects was an absolute beast with pistols.
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 160	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:29:00 - [5] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: I have 390 of IA5 Tactical scrambler pistol. I am going to begin using them hopefully a month or two from now before I transition to the PS4. So any tips on using scrambler pistols and does the tactical variant have a sight or more range? That's alot of IA5s! (O_O) I used up my 4 last IA5s, just to get rid of them. They are junk to use, if you can afford the better pistols. They do NOT have sights, which would have made them worth having, but otherwise its just a low end free pistol, to me.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 913	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:30:00 - [6] - Quote I love my pistols and I'm glad you enjoyed them too. Get the higher level ones; the TT3 Assault is awesome but if CPU/PG is too little, the KLO does the job nicely.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 152	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:32:00 - [7] - Quote SP love. I've been running dual pistols for a week and they are great!
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 160	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:48:00 - [8] - Quote Django Quik wrote: I love my pistols and I'm glad you enjoyed them too. Get the higher level ones; the TT3 Assault is awesome but if CPU/PG is too little, the KLO does the job nicely. Oh. I have Lv4 Proficiency with them (Lv5 next week). I just wanted to see how effective the cheaper ones can be. Lv4 Pistol are generally the best bang for your buck, unless you rarely die using Proto pistols (which otherwise aren't worth spending 13K - 21K ISK on).
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 613	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:52:00 - [9] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: I have 390 of IA5 Tactical scrambler pistol. I am going to begin using them hopefully a month or two from now before I transition to the PS4. So any tips on using scrambler pistols and does the tactical variant have a sight or more range? Aim high and if they don't notice you, don't fire until you see the 450%, then just fire once, maybe twice. Executing reddots is more fun than losing cause they think they're good cause they can hold down R1.
Vulcanus Lightbringer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2013.07.12 21:57:00 - [10] - Quote If you can get past the low rate of fire, the TY-5 Breach is awesome. The damage you with headshots is insane.

R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 212	Posted - 2013.07.12 22:11:00 - [11] - Quote Stop talking about the SP!!! Once the whiners realise it can be just as effective as a flaylock in the right hands, they'll divert their tears our way To be honest, all the proto sidearms are awesome once you adapt your strategy. They aren't "spray and pray" type weapons like the AR, but can be quite effective if used correctly. The proto SMG rocks too.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 613	Posted - 2013.07.12 22:17:00 - [12] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Stop talking about the SP!!! Once the whiners realise it can be just as effective as a flaylock in the right hands, they'll divert their tears our way TBH, I fear this too. OTOH, we're actually a precision weapon that is well balanced (range, ammo before reload). We need precision for the SP to be worth a damn. We can't just spam explosions like the FL or the MD and hope our opponent dies.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 212	Posted - 2013.07.12 22:25:00 - [13] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: R'adeh Hunt wrote: Stop talking about the SP!!! Once the whiners realise it can be just as effective as a flaylock in the right hands, they'll divert their tears our way TBH, I fear this too. OTOH, we're actually a precision weapon that is well balanced (range, ammo before reload). We need precision for the SP to be worth a damn. We can't just spam explosions like the FL or the MD and hope our opponent dies. True...but while the flaylock user tends to get roasted if he misses, we have at least a few more shots to try and save our ass Tbh, at the proto level I don't think any of the sidearms are really OP vs the other. They just require different play styles and tactics.
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 160	Posted - 2013.07.12 23:12:00 - [14] - Quote Also for those interested in the potential dmg per clip these things can dish out. Based on LV5 Stats (not including Dmg mods): Carthum Assault SP 88.0 HP + 15% Pro = 101.2 HP x 3.5% HDmg = 358 HP per head shot x 11 Shots = 3942 HP potential in one clip. TY-5 Breach SP 134.4 HP + 15% Pro = 154.56 x 3.5 HDmg = 540.96 HP per head shot x 9 Shots = 4868.64 HP potential in one clip. And for the ultimate potential. The Lv5 Minmatar Assault with 5 Complex Dmg Mods and Lv5 Proficiency: NOTE: I'm assuming the Dmg mods stacking penalty is 50%. per additional mod. Wolfman's PCP-30 SP 96 HP + 42% (15% Pro plus 5 Dmg mods reduced at 25% effectiveness per additional mod) = 136.32 HP x 3.5 HDmg = 477.12 HP per head shot x 13 Shots = 6202.56 HP potential per clip. TY-5 Breach SP 134.4 + 42% = 190.848 HP x 3.5 = 667.968 HP per headshot x 11 = 7347.648 Who cares about potential. Anyone who isn't a armor tanking heavy, won't survive one headshot from this. You're welcome.
Abby Invo muse.and.fury 2	Posted - 2013.07.12 23:31:00 - [15] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: Also for those interested in the potential dmg per clip these things can dish out. Based on LV5 Stats (not including Dmg mods): Carthum Assault SP 88.0 HP + 15% Pro = 101.2 HP x 3.5% HDmg = 358 HP per head shot x 11 Shots = 3942 HP potential in one clip. TY-5 Breach SP 134.4 HP + 15% Pro = 154.56 x 3.5 HDmg = 540.96 HP per head shot x 9 Shots = 4868.64 HP potential in one clip. And for the ultimate potential. The Lv5 Minmatar Assault with 5 Complex Dmg Mods and Lv5 Proficiency: NOTE: I'm assuming the Dmg mods stacking penalty is 50%. per additional mod. Wolfman's PCP-30 SP 96 HP + 42% (15% Pro plus 5 Dmg mods reduced at 25% effectiveness per additional mod) = 136.32 HP x 3.5 HDmg = 477.12 HP per head shot x 13 Shots = 6202.56 HP potential per clip. TY-5 Breach SP 134.4 + 42% = 190.848 HP x 3.5 = 667.968 HP per headshot x 11 = 7347.648 Who cares about potential. Anyone who isn't a armor tanking heavy, won't survive one headshot from this. You're welcome. That is pretty insane, I might just try some scrambler pistols.
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2301	Posted - 2013.07.12 23:35:00 - [16] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: R'adeh Hunt wrote: Stop talking about the SP!!! Once the whiners realise it can be just as effective as a flaylock in the right hands, they'll divert their tears our way TBH, I fear this too. OTOH, we're actually a precision weapon that is well balanced (range, ammo before reload). We need precision for the SP to be worth a damn. We can't just spam explosions like the FL or the MD and hope our opponent dies. You have every reason to be afraid, SP threads started popping out towards the end of chromosome, it's only the flaylock QQ that's keeping you safe right now
gbt555 Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.07.13 02:53:00 - [17] - Quote Great info. More input, need more input.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 457	Posted - 2013.07.13 03:19:00 - [18] - Quote Glad to see pistols are still alive and well, even after the headshot damage nerf for them. Wait. I'm not glad to see this. I still get headshot by them. Nerf player skill!
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 116	Posted - 2013.07.13 03:25:00 - [19] - Quote Assault Scrambler Pistol ftw. Let's you get those shots out quick.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 152	Posted - 2013.07.13 03:35:00 - [20] - Quote The only problem I have with Breach variants is the slow RoF. The damage is ridiculous, but if and when latency issues occur, landing direct headshots will be nigh impossible. Do not get me wrong, I am all for the Breach, especially the TY-5, but I now only use it for a chance to get one possible headshot before switching to my Assasult to finish my opponents off. With constant frame rate lag on my end, the Assault has become more reliable as I am able to unload one clip into the enemy. It doesn't matter if my opponent is teleporting in between my shots. Eleven rounds in about a second is enough to put anyone down: headshots unneeded.

Cody Sietz Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 497	Posted - 2013.07.13 04:42:00 - [21] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: A B Ablabab wrote: Thank you for this post. I've been waiting for people to skill into sidearms other than the flaylock and tell us how good they are. A nice bit of evidence the game is more balanced than people are saying. Doc Holliday from the Imperfects was an absolute beast with pistols. Haven't heard that name in awhile.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 31	Posted - 2013.07.13 04:49:00 - [22] - Quote SERIOUSLY!!!! STOP ******* TELLING PEOPLE HOW GOOD SCRAMBLERS ARE!!!!! IF THEY THINK ITS A BAD WEAPON THEN SUCKS FOR THEM!!!! THEY DONT DESERVE DO KNOW HOW EPIC LE SCRAMBLER IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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