You are on the right train of thought, soldier. What Mister Mordu offers is nothing but materialistic goods. Don't get me wrong, those are important, but they are not wealth. There are deeper motives brewing in his mind.

For his sake, I hope he makes good on those rewards. Ive met one clone, a brute who wears an amplified Ak.0 Suit. Saw him break a man in half for shooting him in the head... and that was before he had his spirits..

Rich people get bored to.

And that's exactly what has concerned so many clone soldiers - seeing Mordu "bored" enough that he just wants to throw guns around and watch the body count rise for a short period of time is absolutely terrible for morale. If he wants to take them to amazing places, show them rewards that they can't get working for anyone else , and give them a reason to live again after every death - he's going to need to start giving them a taste of his real plans and stop playing his cards so close to his chest all the time.

Let us not forget that none of the four great empires of New Eden claim they want war. Furthermore, each of said empires fear that the cycle of life and death by us, the cloned soldiers, can lead to a loss in our humanity. By tempting us to engage in such hostile acts simply for the desire to acquire more fuel for the fire could lead in just that.

I precaution all of you, do not let these materialistic rewards fool you. It is okay to seek the tools of your trade, but do not forget your loyalties and why you exist.

For his sake, I hope he makes good on those rewards. Ive met one clone, a brute who wears an amplified Ak.0 Suit. Saw him break a man in half for shooting him in the head... and that was before he had his spirits..

Are you referring to Bane, the Breaker of Worlds? The man who held hostage an entire planet for several months with only an handful of Mercs at his side?

Heh, should run that speech by the Matari in Amarr. Im sure they'd be apt to tell you how grand their 'existence' is.

Loyalty is synonymous with control. Let the Federation, or the Empire or whatever have your 'loyalty' and the next time you wake up from death will be to a bunch of guns pointed at you just before they terminate the rest of your clones and read you your rights. Live free, unchained and dont let anyone take that away - because what could they really do to stop you...?

I'd be much more concerned if one of the much more powerful factions were trying to buy us, because if a small time operator like mordu could toss 1.7 trillion, I'm sure the guristas or sansha could multiply that by dozens and not lose a wink of sleep.

I could stand to kill a few people for some Drop or Crash on the side. Amazing what that stuff will do on the field, one good dose on the wrist and youre suddenly wearing a necklace made of kidneys and ball bearings with a depleted nova knife in one hand.

I could stand to kill a few people for some Drop or Crash on the side. Amazing what that stuff will do on the field, one good dose on the wrist and youre suddenly wearing a necklace made of kidneys and ball bearings with a depleted nova knife in one hand.

Suffice to say, thats a lot of ISK and Im sure his less entrepeneural types are shocked he just threw it away. Caldari Colonel makes about 40 ISK a month last I heard, so to be a grunt and hear about that kind of expenditure - seemingly for fun and games - must play the heart strings a bit.

Think we all owe those grunts a formal apology for being able to live to see our earnings. Poor bastards. Must feel real bad to diewithout even getting to see the end of the contract.

Well it's not like that isk was earned with even the tiniest amount of his own work, I wouldn't be surprised if mordu paid his employees in the range the caldari pay their own. I wouldn't necessarily call it thrown away, maybe misused since he could've rewarded us in a much better way for the same amount.

You dont know much about Mordu then. Guy has a habit of taking the more important contracts and going out in the field to supervise the success personally. Much beyond that, I hear most of his mercs retire after a few years; maybe a decade.

It's not like he's actually contributing the majority of the time, anyone can sit back and tell people what to do. Also, I'd need to know their pay range for that to mean anything, as far as I know mordu pilots might retire with 40 isk a month.

It's not like he's actually contributing the majority of the time, anyone can sit back and tell people what to do. Also, I'd need to know their pay range for that to mean anything, as far as I know mordu pilots might retire with 40 isk a month.

1 isk in civilian terms is a lot of money, and it's not hard to tell people what to as long as they're not idiots.

Gods and spirits, soldier, please stop.

Ah, the Amarr. They have good intentions and have a magnificent society, but their war tactics are malevolent. There is no fault in desiring further protection from such horrors.

Respectfully (mostly), it may be truer to say that anyone can sit back and tell people that anyone can sit back and tell people what to do.

Good administrators are hard to come by; not "just anyone" can do the job. Just ask the Caldari about their experience with an MTAC operator-turned-near-dictator. They're meritocratic for a reason; Tibus Heth was the exception that demonstrated the reason for the rule.

As for Mordu, he has a bit more to him than you seem to give him credit for. That article is a little out of date, mind you.

Ok I admit that I highly generalized who could be a leader, I do not believe it is very hard to oversee most of their operations compared to contributing to the success of it. As a consequence of it being out of date it mentions nothing about his field work after forming the legion. I forgot to mention that his forces are made mainly of experienced veterans, people who should be able to do their job without someone holding their hand.

That was a blunt response to aeon's blunt response.

Interesting, Vermaak. Tell me, why is it you dont have a band of hellions of your own? Is that simply by choice, preferring to waste your talent - assuming it is so easy - or it is because maybe when the world is saying that youre wrong, defiantly proclaiming otherwise is your method of convincing..?

Different skills are required to lead than to follow, or even to advise, soldier. Those, combined with the insight to make the right decisions and the will to see them through, are a rare and precious gift. The ability to issue commands to capable, disciplined, and intelli!gent soldiers may require no special talent, but holding their loyalty through two wars and many, many mercenary campaigns is rather an accomplishment.

You are suggesting, without apparent support, that the leader of the greatest mercenary company in New Eden is greatly overrated. Considering his history, and the honor with which he has led his men ... respectfully, you cast your own judgment into question more than his.

I believe he is overrated in comparison to the leaders of other, more independent non empire factions. They have my respect because they have lead their people to controlling vast amounts of systems, with a combined larger size than that of the empires. From what I've read his legion mostly works for the caldari, making it more or less an unofficial part of the caldari navy that also does mercenary work. While I do admit that most people can't hold people's loyalty for that long.

Tred carefully soldier. In offending Mordu you offend the memory of my mother and father before me. He is the most honorable individual I know, and I owe him far more than I can ever provide.

Mordu has chosen to run a mercenary company, rather than the harsh outline of a civilization.

I'm assuming you're not speaking of the Sisters of Eve, but of the "pirate factions." Soldier, you may wish to live among some of those entities before you praise them too highly. They are not as universally "evil" as some self-righteous capsuleers wish to make them out as, but, for the most part, they are what a hard life has made them: the barbarians at the gates.

I apologize, I had no idea that your parents worked for him.

None taken.

My father worked as an officer under him... So when we speak of how much Caldari officers are paid, I know the cost firsthand. My mother was an Intaki refugee. In a sense, I owe my existence to Mordu-haan.

I just wish I could undue the damage I cause to my relations with the Legion.

Ligori kaashivon Mordu...

He deserves better.

I assumed the name would hint it but I performed as a fighter bomber pilot in sansha's navy before being aboard fatal's ship working maintenance. I respect the leaders that I've worked with the most, especially the one that I am related to, but I admire the ones I haven't for bringing their people to the land of prosperity.

Hah. As if Sansha would allow one of his own to flutter off with any sort of freedom. Youre either a mindless cybernetic slave or a 'True' Sansha, and Kuvakei doesnt let those go so easily. Youve quite the reputation, but much like youre immediate dismissal of Mordu's leadership, Im not so gullible.

Life was hard for a half-breed growing up in the State. My parents died when I was young, the damned Dragonaurs set off a bomb in their car, but the Legion continued to provide for me. They sent me a pension and a few of my father's comrades turned up to support me, but as a teenager that didn't really mean that much. It just showed me what happens when you resist the culture in the State. No matter how much progress you think you make, some baka will come along and turn everything back to zero.

So I learned to adapt, tried to fend for myself. I had to reinvent who I was so people could finally see me as an equal and not just some Intaki's bastard child. A group of patriots offered me a chance. That was all I really wanted, a chance.

I was young, and I did a lot of stupid things to achieve that dream, to be seen as true Caldari. Something about watching others die around me for a living though... Something about knowing what it feels like to be the one bleeding out... To be the guy trying to stick a nanite injector into your buddy as grenades go off left and right...

It gives you some context.

The Legion did so much for me, and I threw it in their faces. They tried so hard to turn me into something worthwhile... And I reset that all to zero. That is all you need to know. It was the second biggest mistake in my life.

I've been trying to do some light work for them now, namely knocking down Dragonaur cells when they crop up in Caldari space. It is a start, but I don't think I will ever make it up to them fully.

In the name of God nothing is malevolent. All is his will.

Ah, perhaps I am looking for a different term to describe your scrambling of brains and shredding of flesh. My sincerest apologies.

.... Its kind of what we do....but in a good way.....

I assumed the name would hint it but I performed as a fighter bomber pilot in sansha's navy before being aboard fatal's ship working maintenance. I respect the leaders that I've worked with the most, especially the one that I am related to, but I admire the ones I haven't for bringing their people to the land of prosperity.