DUST Search - Tank Petition

The legend345 wrote:

Killar-12 wrote:

Captain Wontubulous wrote:

I think if you want buffs like this that tanks should not be able to even operate without 2-3 people in them. The driver should not be operating a turret and the turret should not operate without a driver. I've seen games where a tank comes in with a proper squad for support. This didn't even mean having people following him, he just had 2 logis in his tank with him running his turrets and when it got hot for him they would get somewhere a little safer and one or both logis would jump out and start repairing. He didn't die the whole match no matter how much AV got thrown at him. Strategy like that is what is needed, not OP tanks. You shouldn't get the things you're asking for at all without giving things up.

I think the issue is that tanks are just right in pubs because there is no organization

but in PC the other team can co-ordinate so tanks are a joke to beat.

You must be playing different pubs then me :/.


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KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 111	Posted - 2013.07.12 07:22:00 - [1] - Quote I am for all of the points in the petition. They are realistic and achievable by the Devs. My only suggestion might be the addition of more racial vehicles (amarr and minmitar). This might freshen things up a bit, similar to Uprising and dropsuits.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 113	Posted - 2013.07.14 00:06:00 - [2] - Quote Where is CCP Blam!? His last post was May 23rd. He needs to recognize some of the great suggestions that appear through discussions like this. Even if nothing is done to AV or tanks themselves, there are several mechanics, adjustments, and variants that could be added to the vehicles as a whole. Blam is in charge of vehicles and balancing. Why doesn't he do his job or react with the community to get some feedback? We can't lose this thread to trolls or get discouraged. IT TOOK 20 PAGES OF DROPSHIP FEEDBACK TO EVEN GET HIM TO RESPOND BEFORE. We might as well have Mintchip be in charge of vehicles. She has interacted more with the community and done more than CCP Blam has in the past month.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 114	Posted - 2013.07.14 17:56:00 - [3] - Quote BLAM! WHERE ARE YOU?
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 114	Posted - 2013.07.15 02:28:00 - [4] - Quote Blam where are you? There are a lot of excellent suggestions in this post.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 156	Posted - 2013.07.22 20:18:00 - [5] - Quote Blam get it together and read the feedback. We need a real dev to right the ship for vehicles. Your vehicle pilots are a dying breed with the way things are headed. There are a lot more people leaving the vehicle ring than new people joining us. Eventually they won't need you because there will be no more vehicles called out besides militia coffins that are sicas and somas.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 160	Posted - 2013.07.24 18:46:00 - [6] - Quote This threads total supporters are now close to 150 by my count. Still no blue tag though.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 161	Posted - 2013.07.24 22:21:00 - [7] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Captain Wontubulous wrote: I think if you want buffs like this that tanks should not be able to even operate without 2-3 people in them. The driver should not be operating a turret and the turret should not operate without a driver. I've seen games where a tank comes in with a proper squad for support. This didn't even mean having people following him, he just had 2 logis in his tank with him running his turrets and when it got hot for him they would get somewhere a little safer and one or both logis would jump out and start repairing. He didn't die the whole match no matter how much AV got thrown at him. Strategy like that is what is needed, not OP tanks. You shouldn't get the things you're asking for at all without giving things up. I think the issue is that tanks are just right in pubs because there is no organization but in PC the other team can co-ordinate so tanks are a joke to beat. You must be playing different pubs then me :/. Agreed. The presence of Proto AV is on the rise and pretty much every match I play there is at least one Proto AV weapon if not more. My STD tank is clearly not able to withstand this nor is another person's tank
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 162	Posted - 2013.07.24 22:47:00 - [8] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Washlee wrote: Lol Takecover was ban for this thread you already know CCP Blam is not happy. Did you talk to him in game or must I ask to him he's not the type who likes to be a forum troll. Confirmed. Spoke with him last night.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 164	Posted - 2013.07.24 23:10:00 - [9] - Quote The legend345 wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Washlee wrote: Lol Takecover was ban for this thread you already know CCP Blam is not happy. Did you talk to him in game or must I ask to him he's not the type who likes to be a forum troll. Confirmed. Spoke with him last night. what he say :O Will not say here. Contact me in game. Lets just say there is some 1984 stuff going on.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 164	Posted - 2013.07.25 02:54:00 - [10] - Quote Traky78 wrote: Hi You can add Laflash and Chaomistres who are pretty disgusted with the curent state of HAV Will do. I'll compile a list and post it soon

KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 208	Posted - 2013.08.22 02:25:00 - [11] - Quote Lets make wolfmans job easy! If we compile a list of great threads and conversations we can find solutions that work for everyone. This tank thread is awesome and there are lots more like it that deal with vehicles and AV. Competition creates better ideas. We have done the arguing and we all have seen who wins-all day every day. Wolfman has it quite easy when you think about it.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 296	Posted - 2013.09.02 23:25:00 - [12] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Oh my. I really do want to read this, but seriously, 37 pages? This is going to take ages. I better go get some coffee. Thank you for being true to your words. The first couple pages sum it up very well. Glad to know at least someone at CCP is willing to listen.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 499	Posted - 2013.09.25 13:38:00 - [13] - Quote And now we wait until 1.6. I can't believe CCP did this. GTA for another month guess.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 554	Posted - 2013.10.12 00:27:00 - [14] - Quote Void Echo wrote: HUNK tm wrote: Please sign the petition today to avoid another 1.5 ... doesn't matter anymore. CCP will either kill vehicle pilots all together or save it somehow, and by the way the notes looks.... it seems as though were going to be killed off. Following the simple suggestions in this thread could have balanced tanks with ease. Dropships have a similar petition as well. There was no need to gut the system and force all vehicles to have to endure 60 second cool down times on all modules and reduced health. Just ********. Zero sense of reality on CCP's part.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 554	Posted - 2013.10.12 02:19:00 - [15] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: The way CCP sees it, HAV is currently viable if you fit properly with whats available and pilot them accordingly. They arent going to risk turning the game into World of Tanks because the vocal minority want off the wall buffs, I do agree the lack of feedback to some of the hundreds of good suggestions is quite sad, but face it, game is still in beta and HAV/DS are not high on the priority list atm. Vocal minority? Look at the people who have signed this. Half of them are dedicated HAV pilots. This half composes 80% of the portion of the dust community that can run tanks because of how pathetic they are. Take today's AV vs the tanks of Chrome and then we would have balanced fights. There might only be 50 or so tank drivers left who can really run an HAV. That's just sad. When tanks were balanced in Chrome, there were numerous tank battles which were fun. Now it goes down as one guy with proto swarms and a dead tank(s). The solution? Revert to Chrome vehicle mechanics AND rendering. Gutting everything is the last thing they should have done.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 555	Posted - 2013.10.12 03:54:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: GM Archduke wrote: Void Echo wrote: its about time, not our fault for there being so many pages, you couldv gotten here when it was at 25 pages lol. also, do you have an option to make me the author of this thread? the original author is no longer here and there are more names that need to be seen Well, to be honest I'm just a random GM interested in vehicles. The DEVs you are trying to reach with this are always checking the Forum (lurking in the shadows) - although this topic should probably be in Feedback/Requests. I would also suggest to start a new topic, but in the appropriate section this time. Well with the proposed changes to vehicles, doesn't exactly look like they're taking any pilot's advice. There were two main routes to rebalancing vehicle, as I saw it. Take the players advice across the board (chrome mechanics+dropship balances+lav nerfs) OR gut everything and start from scratch with no timeline. Looks like they are way in over their heads. Given their current track record, I have no confidence left in them any more. Why should anyone who is specced into vehicles even remotely trust CCP's plans? A failure to lead. Simple as that.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 731	Posted - 2013.10.19 23:19:00 - [17] - Quote Clearly CCP took something from this 38 page discussion on tanks in their vehicle re-balance. Oh, wait CCP hates vehicles and those who use them.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 734	Posted - 2013.10.20 00:55:00 - [18] - Quote Void Echo wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: Clearly CCP took something from this 38 page discussion on tanks in their vehicle re-balance. Oh, wait CCP hates vehicles and those who use them. how the **** did they get eve right? I have no idea how EVE is so beautiful constructed, yet dust has ended up being a degenerating product as it ages. The ages of the two are completely opposite, but then again there is the little known fact that CCP has been working on this game since 2006. So the ages of the two games are somewhat similar in that way. Still this is no excuse for taking ZERO player feedback in regards to a massive overhaul. Can't wait to be the one to say-"I told you so"
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 735	Posted - 2013.10.20 01:26:00 - [19] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Hrm.. A tanking petition, and im NOT signed up? Well we'll have to fix that. Tired of my gunnlogi thats designed as evasive maneuvers anti infantry getting popped by any and all madrugars. I even jumped behind a gunnlogi and blasted his weakspot with adv turrets and lost to a plasma cannon, i mean wtf? Plas 1, lemme on that list! unfortunately the OP has since not been seen playing dust after this post quickly racked up 30 pages of discussions and over 100 supporters at the time-without any CCP acknowledgement. I suppose I could make an updated list, but then again why? CCP clearly paid no attention to this thread, if you read the vehicle changes inbound.