if this was meant to be based on real life, tanks would rarely ever be used by players. some real life integration is good but not integration where one class is made useless because of the real world. this is a game that needs desperately to get away from the infantry point of view before it dies

Yeah.. but making LLAV's and Tanks "impossible" to kill, because they cost more ISK.. is just plain stupid. Of course a BIG tank with BIG weapons, and lots of HP is going to cost alot of ISK...The manufacturing cost is alot higher.

Yeah.. but making LLAV's and Tanks "impossible" to kill, because they cost more ISK.. is just plain stupid. Of course a BIG tank with BIG weapons, and lots of HP is going to cost alot of ISK...The manufacturing cost is alot higher.

Nobody want's unbeatable LLAVs and Tanks. Majority of us want the following in this kind of order.

1) Racial Variants, AV and Vehicles
2) Standard, Advanced and Prototype Vehicles, with proper Enforcer and Marauder Specializations.
3) Balancing between the vehicles so each can hold their own against the other
4) EWAR

Those are just a few we need, once we have the first two we can actually balance the Vehicle and AV aspect of the game

what the hell is "EWAR"

as for you infantry, stop ******* complaining that a 50 ton vehicle will a vehicle sized weapon keeps killing you, its designed to do that. if it couldn't kill you, then it would serve no purpose and be removed from the game.

the more you keep complaining, the more tactics were going to use to kill you off because we are NOT I repeat NOT going to bend over for you like CCP has.

I admit that I do make stupid decisions when driving, but that's my own fault, im not blaming anyone for tat, but I am blaming CCP for allowing people to use AV weapons without even skilling up into them.

at the moment in dust 514, it looks like vehicle users like myself and the other ones that speak up are the only ones standing between infantry and total CODization for dust 514

Tanks are not OP.
Your infantry's AV is insufficient.
I can pretty much solo most tanks with a CBR7, give me another teammate with any AV skills and even the mighty Void Echo is subject to a quick termination. Can't recall seeing that happen yet (I've only seen him in blue and usually jump on one of his turrets and piggyback some easy WP) but all in due time, I suppose.

Stop driving your tank into the clear and then whining like a nub and always plan your routs so you know where to go if you get ambushed by people... and before any of this can occur make sure thier are people with no proto AV or other redline tanks on the field, trust me i have yet to lose my enforcer which i'v made atleast 5mil isk outta and hella good times ripping devolle and proto caldari logs into pieces and see this 100k isk suit turn into flames.... Also make sure before engaging a tank that has not spotted you that your tank is better than his...

Stop driving your tank into the clear and then whining like a nub and always plan your routs so you know where to go if you get ambushed by people... and before any of this can occur make sure thier are people with no proto AV or other redline tanks on the field, trust me i have yet to lose my enforcer which i'v made atleast 5mil isk outta and hella good times ripping devolle and proto caldari logs into pieces and see this 100k isk suit turn into flames.... Also make sure before engaging a tank that has not spotted you that your tank is better than his...

Yeah.. because the Militia AV weapons are so effective...

I have advanced Swarm Launchers and Advanced Plasma Cannon.. i use them together in an Adv Commando suit.. about 60,000 ISK per suit, when i try to kill OP tanks or LLAV's with that setup, i die about 10 times per match, because i have not defense against infantry. 60,000 ISK x 10 = 600,000 ISK cost.....just to kill few FREE LAV's and militia tanks, because LLAV's are impossible to kill, and so are tanks with 45% resistances.

Someone in CCP needs to redo the math for this.

I have you beat by 3 million sp

Ha ha ha ha, he said Caldari tanks..

You are an example of what this game would become if vehicle loyalists didn't exist. COD

You think you should do well against a tank just because you're using advanced AV.
You say you have no defense against infantry? Well of course if you use 2 AV weapons. The commando suit was meant to provide the advantage of being 2 weaponry roles. Do you expect a change if you use both light weapon slots for one role?
Its your fault for dying 10 times to a tank.
You repeat the same actions and expect a change?

never been called a "vehicle loyalist" before

ummm... the point of this is to tell tankers how to use a tank and SURVIVE... i would not go up with proto AV, i dont risk my isk for a few kills, i rather walk off the field going 3 and 15 than going 24 and 1 but losing my tank...

No.

Stop driving your tank into the clear and then whining like a nub and always plan your routs so you know where to go if you get ambushed by people... and before any of this can occur make sure thier are people with no proto AV or other redline tanks on the field, trust me i have yet to lose my enforcer which i'v made atleast 5mil isk outta and hella good times ripping devolle and proto caldari logs into pieces and see this 100k isk suit turn into flames.... Also make sure before engaging a tank that has not spotted you that your tank is better than his...

If you're in a HAV and not ripping any dropsuits apart, then you're doing it wrong.

Also, you got to be trolling if you think HAVs are fine.

If you're in a HAV and not ripping any dropsuits apart, then you're doing it wrong.

Also, you got to be trolling if you think HAVs are fine.

Stop driving your tank into the clear and then whining like a nub and always plan your routs so you know where to go if you get ambushed by people... and before any of this can occur make sure thier are people with no proto AV or other redline tanks on the field, trust me i have yet to lose my enforcer which i'v made atleast 5mil isk outta and hella good times ripping devolle and proto caldari logs into pieces and see this 100k isk suit turn into flames.... Also make sure before engaging a tank that has not spotted you that your tank is better than his...

Suggestion to stupid op, gtfo

all i'm hearing is whining and bitching, if you get ambushed by av grenades its considered a tactic. they want to get rid of you because you're ******* **** up, at least you know you are a valuable asset to the battle by your team.

You're boasting about never losing your Enforcer because you dont throw it in against Proto AV.

How about you do this, throw your Enforcer (Which to CCP, is supposedly a Proto HAV) against some Proto AV and see how well you do.

The fact you say, "I never lost my Enforcer" and "I dont call it in when Proto AV is on the field", is stupid, of course its going to survive.

It's an interesting experience, dropping into the battlefield and being nothing more than a big, noisy pay check...

Stop driving your tank into the clear and then whining like a nub and always plan your routs so you know where to go if you get ambushed by people... and before any of this can occur make sure thier are people with no proto AV or other redline tanks on the field, trust me i have yet to lose my enforcer which i'v made atleast 5mil isk outta and hella good times ripping devolle and proto caldari logs into pieces and see this 100k isk suit turn into flames.... Also make sure before engaging a tank that has not spotted you that your tank is better than his...