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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:26:00 -
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as for you infantry, stop ******* complaining that a 50 ton vehicle will a vehicle sized weapon keeps killing you, its designed to do that.
the more you keep complaining, the more tactics were going to use to kill you off because we are NOT I repeat NOT going to bend over for you like CCP has.
I admit that I do make stupid decisions when driving, but that's my own fault, im not blaming anyone for tat, but I am blaming CCP for allowing people to use AV weapons without even skilling up into them. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:32:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Void Echo wrote:as for you infantry, stop ******* complaining that a 50 ton vehicle will a vehicle sized weapon keeps killing you, its designed to do that.
the more you keep complaining, the more tactics were going to use to kill you off because we are NOT I repeat NOT going to bend over for you like CCP has.
I admit that I do make stupid decisions when driving, but that's my own fault, im not blaming anyone for tat, but I am blaming CCP for allowing people to use AV weapons without even skilling up into them. ....im a tanker son... 8 mil sp into tanks
I have you beat by 3 million sp |
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:36:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:You're boasting about never losing your Enforcer because you dont throw it in against Proto AV.
How about you do this, throw your Enforcer (Which to CCP, is supposedly a Proto HAV) against some Proto AV and see how well you do.
The fact you say, "I never lost my Enforcer" and "I dont call it in when Proto AV is on the field", is stupid, of course its going to survive. Enforcer tanks are militia. Also your mad because he's smarter then you?
fixed it for you |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:51:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Void Echo wrote:as for you infantry, stop ******* complaining that a 50 ton vehicle will a vehicle sized weapon keeps killing you, its designed to do that.
the more you keep complaining, the more tactics were going to use to kill you off because we are NOT I repeat NOT going to bend over for you like CCP has.
I admit that I do make stupid decisions when driving, but that's my own fault, im not blaming anyone for tat, but I am blaming CCP for allowing people to use AV weapons without even skilling up into them.
at the moment in dust 514, it looks like vehicle users like myself and the other ones that speak up are the only ones standing between infantry and total CODization for dust 514 Yeah.. because the Militia AV weapons are so effective... I have advanced Swarm Launchers and Advanced Plasma Cannon.. i use them together in an Adv Commando suit.. about 60,000 ISK per suit, when i try to kill OP tanks or LLAV's with that setup, i die about 10 times per match, because i have not defense against infantry. 60,000 ISK x 10 = 600,000 ISK cost.....just to kill few FREE LAV's and militia tanks, because LLAV's are impossible to kill, and so are tanks with 45% resistances. Someone in CCP needs to redo the math for this.
tanks are far from OP, its the pilots of the items that make it look that way, something hardly anyone here realizes.
what if someone was running your fitting and they suck at it only getting assists, and your the one running around with 20-0 kd per match, then nobody notices the idiot with all the assists running the same stuff as you, they notice you and immediately shout "OP NERF NOW" to your fitting even though there is another guy running what you have that doesn't know how to use it?
hmm? |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:13:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Void Echo wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Void Echo wrote:as for you infantry, stop ******* complaining that a 50 ton vehicle will a vehicle sized weapon keeps killing you, its designed to do that.
the more you keep complaining, the more tactics were going to use to kill you off because we are NOT I repeat NOT going to bend over for you like CCP has.
I admit that I do make stupid decisions when driving, but that's my own fault, im not blaming anyone for tat, but I am blaming CCP for allowing people to use AV weapons without even skilling up into them.
at the moment in dust 514, it looks like vehicle users like myself and the other ones that speak up are the only ones standing between infantry and total CODization for dust 514 Yeah.. because the Militia AV weapons are so effective... I have advanced Swarm Launchers and Advanced Plasma Cannon.. i use them together in an Adv Commando suit.. about 60,000 ISK per suit, when i try to kill OP tanks or LLAV's with that setup, i die about 10 times per match, because i have not defense against infantry. 60,000 ISK x 10 = 600,000 ISK cost.....just to kill few FREE LAV's and militia tanks, because LLAV's are impossible to kill, and so are tanks with 45% resistances. Someone in CCP needs to redo the math for this. tanks are far from OP, its the pilots of the items that make it look that way, something hardly anyone here realizes. what if someone was running your fitting and they suck at it only getting assists, and your the one running around with 20-0 kd per match, then nobody notices the idiot with all the assists running the same stuff as you, they notice you and immediately shout "OP NERF NOW" to your fitting even though there is another guy running what you have that doesn't know how to use it? hmm? The point is.. i have a Dropsuit that is an AV specialist, that i use exclusively to destroy vehicles, and i paying the price for it ( 60k ).. with that set up and that price, i should be available to hit LLAV's and Adv tanks very heavily... BUT I DON'T .. I don't even scratch their paint.. but i die very quickly to Snipers and Infantry ... you see how that doesn't adds on ?
1st thing wrong with your post, there are no tanks that higher tier than standard.
2nd you as AV have 10 specific weapons that are designed to kill vehicles, HAVs only have 3 types of weapons to kill you off and hardly anything that allows us to survive a full squad of you.
3rd 60k? wow, that sounds like heaven for an HAV driver whos tank costs him nearly 10 matches for maybe 2 million ISK to buy another one while you get enough in what, only 1 match? yeah that doesn't add up.
the isk cost doesn't justify the power of the HAV as its standing. especially with the enforcers. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:15:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Void Echo wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Void Echo wrote:as for you infantry, stop ******* complaining that a 50 ton vehicle will a vehicle sized weapon keeps killing you, its designed to do that.
the more you keep complaining, the more tactics were going to use to kill you off because we are NOT I repeat NOT going to bend over for you like CCP has.
I admit that I do make stupid decisions when driving, but that's my own fault, im not blaming anyone for tat, but I am blaming CCP for allowing people to use AV weapons without even skilling up into them.
at the moment in dust 514, it looks like vehicle users like myself and the other ones that speak up are the only ones standing between infantry and total CODization for dust 514 Yeah.. because the Militia AV weapons are so effective... I have advanced Swarm Launchers and Advanced Plasma Cannon.. i use them together in an Adv Commando suit.. about 60,000 ISK per suit, when i try to kill OP tanks or LLAV's with that setup, i die about 10 times per match, because i have not defense against infantry. 60,000 ISK x 10 = 600,000 ISK cost.....just to kill few FREE LAV's and militia tanks, because LLAV's are impossible to kill, and so are tanks with 45% resistances. Someone in CCP needs to redo the math for this. tanks are far from OP, its the pilots of the items that make it look that way, something hardly anyone here realizes. what if someone was running your fitting and they suck at it only getting assists, and your the one running around with 20-0 kd per match, then nobody notices the idiot with all the assists running the same stuff as you, they notice you and immediately shout "OP NERF NOW" to your fitting even though there is another guy running what you have that doesn't know how to use it? hmm? The point is.. i have a Dropsuit that is an AV specialist, that i use exclusively to destroy vehicles, and i paying the price for it ( 60k ).. with that set up and that price, i should be available to hit LLAV's and Adv tanks very heavily... BUT I DON'T .. I don't even scratch their paint.. but i die very quickly to Snipers and Infantry ... you see how that doesn't adds on ? LLAV's are a different story but i dont know where your coming from, but when i hit something with even mlitia it gets damaged and even with basic AV nades they can go down to a point that if i had 1 or 2 more it would be destroyed but the essence of surprise is key to destroying a tank...
yet its so imbalanced that a solo av guy has the ability to take out even a tank with proto modules by himself. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:17:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Jason Pearson wrote: We don't have "Advanced" Tanks. Run in a squad, we're told too, and 60,000 does not equal 2,000,000, soz.
That is alot of crap... A military helicopter can cost up to $10,000,000, but can be destroy by a rocket launcher that cost as little as $599.99...
if this was meant to be based on real life, tanks would rarely ever be used by players. some real life integration is good but not integration where one class is made useless because of the real world. this is a game that needs desperately to get away from the infantry point of view before it dies |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:19:00 -
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oh and btw, you never answered my question, look at the 1st post on this page and answer my question since you didn't even see it |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:29:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Void Echo wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Jason Pearson wrote: We don't have "Advanced" Tanks. Run in a squad, we're told too, and 60,000 does not equal 2,000,000, soz.
That is alot of crap... A military helicopter can cost up to $10,000,000, but can be destroy by a rocket launcher that cost as little as $599.99... if this was meant to be based on real life, tanks would rarely ever be used by players. some real life integration is good but not integration where one class is made useless because of the real world. this is a game that needs desperately to get away from the infantry point of view before it dies Yeah.. but making LLAV's and Tanks "impossible" to kill, because they cost more ISK.. is just plain stupid. Of course a BIG tank with BIG weapons, and lots of HP is going to cost alot of ISK...The manufacturing cost is alot higher.
no tank drivers want to have "god mode" tanks (maybe the blue ones that just started), there is no thrill in being unable to be killed, I enjoy the thrill of trying to escape with my ass in tact.
why is it that you infantry think that by wanting a reasonable buff to HAVs you think we want to be god modes, no that's not the case, we don't want god mode, we just want to be able to actually survive.. the balance between av and vehicles is tipped HEAVILY in favor of AV. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:30:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote: Nobody want's unbeatable LLAVs and Tanks. Majority of us want the following in this kind of order.
1) Racial Variants, AV and Vehicles 2) Standard, Advanced and Prototype Vehicles, with proper Enforcer and Marauder Specializations. 3) Balancing between the vehicles so each can hold their own against the other 4) EWAR
Those are just a few we need, once we have the first two we can actually balance the Vehicle and AV aspect of the game
what the hell is "EWAR" |
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.12 01:31:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Tanks are not OP. Your infantry's AV is insufficient. I can pretty much solo most tanks with a CBR7, give me another teammate with any AV skills and even the mighty Void Echo is subject to a quick termination. Can't recall seeing that happen yet (I've only seen him in blue and usually jump on one of his turrets and piggyback some easy WP) but all in due time, I suppose.
1st of all, yeah I cant escape the CBR7.
2nd tanking is not easy, get that through your ignorance. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:04:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Void Echo wrote:as for you infantry, stop ******* complaining that a 50 ton vehicle will a vehicle sized weapon keeps killing you, its designed to do that.
the more you keep complaining, the more tactics were going to use to kill you off because we are NOT I repeat NOT going to bend over for you like CCP has.
I admit that I do make stupid decisions when driving, but that's my own fault, im not blaming anyone for tat, but I am blaming CCP for allowing people to use AV weapons without even skilling up into them.
at the moment in dust 514, it looks like vehicle users like myself and the other ones that speak up are the only ones standing between infantry and total CODization for dust 514 Yeah.. because the Militia AV weapons are so effective... I have advanced Swarm Launchers and Advanced Plasma Cannon.. i use them together in an Adv Commando suit.. about 60,000 ISK per suit, when i try to kill OP tanks or LLAV's with that setup, i die about 10 times per match, because i have not defense against infantry. 60,000 ISK x 10 = 600,000 ISK cost.....just to kill few FREE LAV's and militia tanks, because LLAV's are impossible to kill, and so are tanks with 45% resistances. Someone in CCP needs to redo the math for this. You are an example of what this game would become if vehicle loyalists didn't exist. COD You think you should do well against a tank just because you're using advanced AV. You say you have no defense against infantry? Well of course if you use 2 AV weapons. The commando suit was meant to provide the advantage of being 2 weaponry roles. Do you expect a change if you use both light weapon slots for one role? Its your fault for dying 10 times to a tank. You repeat the same actions and expect a change?
never been called a "vehicle loyalist" before |
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