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Young-tree
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:25:00 -
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GÇ£ Sprinting/walking/crouching does not have an impact on whether or not you show up on the enemy minimap. Different dropsuits do have different signatures (with the scout having the lowest) that make you more or less likely to be picked up by an enemy scan. You can of course influence this with modules and the better the scanner the harder it will be to hide from it. GÇ¥
GÇöCCP Alliance
Is this statement still true? I'm almost positive that if I'm walking up to an enemy, i'm detected far less often than if I sprint toward them - same applies to crouching.
Q1: Will this show me up on the radar (inside their suit's scan radius) more if I am doing the above actions?
Q2: Does Melee affect the above?
Q3: Does charging up Nova Knives/Scrambler Rifles/Snipers/Forge Guns have any bearing on the above (i.e. .. while you're charging are you showing up more ?
Q4: While Hacking/ Counter-hacking - same question as above.
Thanks very much for your help |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3258
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:48:00 -
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As far as we are concerned, your movements only appear to have an effect on your hit box. Your signature profile is not affected by movement or action. |
jamstar saa187
Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack
31
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:49:00 -
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Young-tree wrote:GÇ£ Sprinting/walking/crouching does not have an impact on whether or not you show up on the enemy minimap. Different dropsuits do have different signatures (with the scout having the lowest) that make you more or less likely to be picked up by an enemy scan. You can of course influence this with modules and the better the scanner the harder it will be to hide from it. GÇ¥
GÇöCCP Alliance
Is this statement still true? I'm almost positive that if I'm walking up to an enemy, i'm detected far less often than if I sprint toward them - same applies to crouching.
Q1: Will this show me up on the radar (inside their suit's scan radius) more if I am doing the above actions?
Q2: Does Melee affect the above?
Q3: Does charging up Nova Knives/Scrambler Rifles/Snipers/Forge Guns have any bearing on the above (i.e. .. while you're charging are you showing up more ?
Q4: While Hacking/ Counter-hacking - same question as above.
Thanks very much for your help
My observations:
Q1: Walking ABSOLUTELY makes a difference! i play primarily as a HMG, and my motto is "Fat boys don't run!" for exactly this reason. as far as i a am aware, the sensors pick up sound (decibels) to identify a target. that is why, for instance, you are encouraged to use the scout suit, as opposed to the Logi or the Heavy suit, when sniping because the decibel levels given off with the scout suit are significantly less than that with the other suits. i have snuck up on targets many times by walking up to them, when i run i ALWAYS get picked up before i get to my destination. reloading your weapon also shows you morefor the same reason (ie. the sound given off when reloading)
Q2: i am not sure, but i think so. Melee will give you away, but i think you have to be close to the target to get picked up by their sensors.
Q3: i cant speak to the Nova/Scrambler/Snipers (even though i did snipe in the previous build), but i am sure that the Forge does give you away when you hold onto the charge. if you notice, it makes a noise, and similar to the above, that can be picked up by the sensors.
Q4: if you hack a point you show up on the map, that includes CRU's, Turrets, and opposition vehicles also. it is very faint, but you still show up on the enemy radar, if they know what to look for.
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Young-tree
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:43:00 -
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I've found the same - In almost all scenarios you show up - except walking.
Good to know - I'll be back to walking for the now.
It would be nice to know just how much of an increase sprinting etc gives also o_0 |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
590
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:50:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65715&p=2 Post #37
CCP Wolfman wrote:Sprinting/walking/crouching does not have an impact on whether or not you show up on the enemy minimap. Different dropsuits do have different signatures (with the scout having the lowest) that make you more or less likely to be picked up by an enemy scan. You can of course influence this with modules and the better the scanner the harder it will be to hide from it. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
113
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:55:00 -
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Q3: Weapons do not have signature yet(shooting, charging etc. have no impact on radar - but victim can hear source of sound and look towards it with light up your dropsuit signature on his radar, when you are in his 60* angel passive scanner zone).
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3347
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:56:00 -
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I know I tested in Chromosome and movement most definitely did NOT affect your profile back then. Also, firing most weapons made you light up easier, Nova Knives being an exception, and Sniper Rifles having much less of an effect than Shotguns. ARs and SMGs were somewhere between, but your profile raised with each shot, and peaked after a few rounds so they were effectively worse than the Shotgun if you weren't burst firing.
Also, the profile on a Heavy is such that walking shouldn't matter because the only thing you're sneaking up on is another Heavy, and then only if you've buffed your Dampening skill and they haven't, or you actually wasted a slot on a Dampener and they didn't use a Precision Amp. If you're successfully sneaking up on any other suit with a Heavy, that's evidence of something going very wrong with the scanning system, or the guy wasn't watching his minimap.
It's also worth considering that base range for passive scanners is only 10m (upgraded to 15 with Long Range Scanning skill, and further with modules/Gallente Scout bonus) |
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