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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:17:00 -
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This how the Forge Gun will get nerfed:
-1500 damage for the proto. Assault gets 1400 damage and Breach 1700. How a gun has more damage than a cannon is beyond me. Only in Dust 514.
-0.5 splash radius. Yep no more infantry killing. This in an AV weapon and will only be useful at destroying tanks.
-Optimal range reduced to 100m. No more roof sniping. Dropships can breathe a bit more with one less annoying AV harassing their ass. Sniping is for snipers and this gun doesn't even have ADS. It's clearly meant for "mid range" tank destruction.
inb4 fatties say Forge Gun is fine.
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:27:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:leave the damn forge gun alone
It's OP and you know it. It's not meant to be going 15/0 at Manus Peak ambush. It's an AV weapon ffs.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:37:00 -
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For you guys info, I drive a logistics LAV. I'm not affected by Forge Guns in any way since they can never hit me. But I can see them in the killfeed. It gets more kills than weapons that are supposed to kill infantry, like the laser and scrambler rifle. Just play ambush Manus Peak vs some top corps you'll see many Forge Gunners there going 20/0.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:40:00 -
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Hawkings Greenback wrote:There was a thread yesterday of an AR user going 50 ( + ) & 2
By your reckoning we should nerf Ar's also, so please give us your considered opinion on how we can do that
ARs are OP as well, that one goes after lolForgeGuns. No way they can be better than my laser rifle.
Edit: Actually no, ARs are fine. It's the other rifles that suck. The guy was just lucky he didn't face a full squad of top corp players. Anyone can go 50/0 vs a bunch of scrubs.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:42:00 -
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Hawkings Greenback wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:For you guys info, I drive a logistics LAV. I'm not affected by Forge Guns in any way since they can never hit me. But I can see them in the killfeed. It gets more kills than weapons that are supposed to kill infantry, like the laser and scrambler rifle. Just play ambush Manus Peak vs some top corps you'll see many Forge Gunners there going 20/0.
-XOXO How many AR's do you see in the kill feed since you spend a lot of time looking while driving
Lots but that's because it's the only rifle that can actually kill.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:46:00 -
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Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:Llav driver
/thread
lol whut? Do I have to QQ for a nerf thread to be legit? Not me baby.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:48:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:For you guys info, I drive a logistics LAV. I'm not affected by Forge Guns in any way since they can never hit me. But I can see them in the killfeed. It gets more kills than weapons that are supposed to kill infantry, like the laser and scrambler rifle. Just play ambush Manus Peak vs some top corps you'll see many Forge Gunners there going 20/0.
-XOXO an AV weapon going 20/0 in a game mode where free LAV spam is rampant. sounds like a step in the right direction
Forge Guns aren't killing LAVs trust me. Those 20 kills come from infantry kills.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:53:00 -
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Hawkings Greenback wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:For you guys info, I drive a logistics LAV. I'm not affected by Forge Guns in any way since they can never hit me. But I can see them in the killfeed. It gets more kills than weapons that are supposed to kill infantry, like the laser and scrambler rifle. Just play ambush Manus Peak vs some top corps you'll see many Forge Gunners there going 20/0.
-XOXO an AV weapon going 20/0 in a game mode where free LAV spam is rampant. sounds like a step in the right direction Forge Guns aren't killing LAVs thrust me. Those 20 kills come from infantry kills. -XOXO
LMFAO
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:59:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:How about:
Forge -90% damage to infantry and advertised face-value damage to vehicles.
Only problem is that heavy noobs will all just run back to their HMG and not do any AV at all, which is what they were designed for. Thus the assaults and logis will have to make up for their slack and run AV themselves, which is what they weren't designed for.
Doesn't matter if it's 90% damage for infantry, it'll still 1 shot them. That's why very small blast radius and viola everyone says weapon is sh!t.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This how the Forge Gun will get nerfed:
-1500 damage for the proto. Assault gets 1400 damage and Breach 1700. How a gun has more damage than a cannon is beyond me. Only in Dust 514.
-0.5 splash radius. Yep no more infantry killing. This in an AV weapon and will only be useful at destroying tanks.
-Optimal range reduced to 100m. No more roof sniping. Dropships can breathe a bit more with one less annoying AV harassing their ass. Sniping is for snipers and this gun doesn't even have ADS. It's clearly meant for "mid range" tank destruction.
inb4 fatties say Forge Gun is fine.
-XOXO I'm a medium suit and they are fine, all that should happen to them is either lowered magazine cap or make them single shot weapons.
Then they can't kill tanks. Heavies don't carry equipment you know. Don't want to make them useless right.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:05:00 -
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Orenji Jiji wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This how the Forge Gun will get nerfed:
-1500 damage for the proto. Assault gets 1400 damage and Breach 1700. How a gun has more damage than a cannon is beyond me. Only in Dust 514.
-0.5 splash radius. Yep no more infantry killing. This in an AV weapon and will only be useful at destroying tanks.
-Optimal range reduced to 100m. No more roof sniping. Dropships can breathe a bit more with one less annoying AV harassing their ass. Sniping is for snipers and this gun doesn't even have ADS. It's clearly meant for "mid range" tank destruction.
inb4 fatties say Forge Gun is fine.
-XOXO I think your last body transfer went wrong and you are now mentally challenged. I suggest offing this clone and trying another one. Kthxbye. Alternatively please try fighting off infantry with a forge gun and let us know how it went. Because you're obviously butthurt about being dead to one, not laughing at your OP supa-cannon. Which is the first rule of whiny nerf club: got killed with it, it must be OP. Face it, you just suck and got hit by a weapon that charges for at least three seconds between shots. And is used to kill MF HAVs.
Didn't read thread. :/
I said it before, I drive LAVs. I'm the least affected by Forge Guns. They can't touch me.
I say nerf because I see them. Go play ambush you'll see.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:19:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:How about:
Forge -90% damage to infantry and advertised face-value damage to vehicles.
Only problem is that heavy noobs will all just run back to their HMG and not do any AV at all, which is what they were designed for. Thus the assaults and logis will have to make up for their slack and run AV themselves, which is what they weren't designed for. Doesn't matter if it's 90% damage for infantry, it'll still 1 shot them. That's why very small blast radius and viola everyone says weapon is sh!t. -XOXO Maybe not as clear as I hoped, I meant that it should have [negative] 90% damage to infantry ie only 10% of it's face-value damage would apply to infantry if hit. Orenji Jiji wrote: How about you don't stand still to get hit with a frakking plasma cannon? Splash does not OHK you, but getting plasma-ball bumped does. FG does not have a scope, so it only works for people who want to pick flowers on the battlefield.
Why would plasma projectile that rips tanks apart do no damage to infantry? There is no logic in that except "we're little whiny princesses and we demand nerf."
Forge hitbox is far too big, should be a pin-sized hitbox. Right now they just aim in the general direction of somebody from halfway across the map and get a direct hit. Also lots of things don't make sense RL wise in any game, but that is required for balance. Get used to it.
lol ok. It'll do like 150 damage to infantry. But doesn't make sense because lolrailgun can destroy tanks but not tiny clones. Blast radius makes more sense. You know Chromosome missiles right that didn't kill a sh!t. Exactly that.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:22:00 -
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Orenji Jiji wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Didn't read thread. :/
I said it before, I drive LAVs. I'm the least affected by Forge Guns. They can't touch me.
I say nerf because I see them. Go play ambush you'll see. I went Ambush mostly for last 3x SP event and got killed by a FG maybe once or twice a day, with many FGs in the field. FGs can touch you, we've got a dedicated FG people and they explode murder taxis by a dozen each match. Stop trolling and get some gun skills maybe? DJINN leukoplast wrote:Forge hitbox is far too big, should be a pin-sized hitbox. Right now they just aim in the general direction of somebody from halfway across the map and get a direct hit. BS. Make an alt, skill FG and record this. I did use forgegun in this build. Have you? No, you just think you know how it works. It just hit me that I'm arguing in a troll thread and will stop now. Have fun, children.
lol you're in seraphim. I never ever see you scrubs in pubs.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:44:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:Forge gun are fine, i don't use them, seldom die to them, they are a niche weapon and OP you are full of ****
I thought their niche was AV? But they're better at killing infantry!
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:45:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Why on earth do people sign off or add signatures to their forum posts.
It's ridiculous.
Because it's for cool people like me. :P
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:34:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Omareth Nasadra wrote:Forge gun are fine, i don't use them, seldom die to them, they are a niche weapon and OP you are full of **** I thought their niche was AV? But they're better at killing infantry! -XOXO you die a lot to them while being infantry? your niche must be being bad at this game, they are so easy to kill when you CQC them, come on stop dying and get better instead of qqing
lol once again, I'm not the one dying to Forge Guns. I drive LAVs, I'm the least one dying from them since they're so slow. It's the people going 18/2 with a Forge Gun, I can see them, many times. Why can they get those scores with an AV weapon, meanwhile I don't see laser or scrambler rifles top scores? Because Forge Gunners are good? Plz.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:46:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:For you guys info, I drive a logistics LAV. I'm not affected by Forge Guns in any way since they can never hit me. But I can see them in the killfeed. It gets more kills than weapons that are supposed to kill infantry, like the laser and scrambler rifle. Just play ambush Manus Peak vs some top corps you'll see many Forge Gunners there going 20/0.
-XOXO Oh, please tell us what weapons are "supposed" to be in the killfeed. Gtfo murder taxi troll.
lol if only my HMG was any good I surely wouldn't drive my LAV. Killfeed is supposed to be ARs and LAV until everything else gets good. Forge Guns GTFO and do AV.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:48:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:I personally never see them, got killed by em in beta tho an recently used a militia on on a alt heavy do drive over dudes an use a heavy for 3x sp week wasn't very successful tho
Let me guess...you play skirmish?
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:58:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Pre-trying to snipe with FG again:
I used to do it, felt like a scrub, and stopped. It's especially the Assault ones that perplex me the most. Anyways, let's see how a MLT fit goes.
See? I knew I wasn't crazy! All of you saying the lolForgeGun is fine are a bunch of ****** scrubs that don't like the HMG because it sucks and don't want their toy nerf. Well guess what CCP.Is watching the killfeed and you're in the top 5 when your job is to destroy vehicles! And don't tell me because LAV spam because you know you can't kill them. You can't kill me! GTFO!!!!!
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:02:00 -
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oso tiburon wrote:oso tiburon wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This how the Forge Gun will get nerfed:
-1500 damage for the proto. Assault gets 1400 damage and Breach 1700. How a gun has more damage than a cannon is beyond me. Only in Dust 514.
-0.5 splash radius. Yep no more infantry killing. This in an AV weapon and will only be useful at destroying tanks.
-Optimal range reduced to 100m. No more roof sniping. Dropships can breathe a bit more with one less annoying AV harassing their ass. Sniping is for snipers and this gun doesn't even have ADS. It's clearly meant for "mid range" tank destruction.
inb4 fatties say Forge Gun is fine.
-XOXO QQ all i see is QQ ? does this even make english nerf the ar it can kill me oh and while your at it nerf grenades and mass drivers and dropships it takes one shot to kill them they should just blow up when they drop save my ammo nerf the heavys in general give them enough cpu and pg to run nothing but side arm ... seriously GET GOOD SO SICK OF SAYING THIS I CANT AIM A FORGE GUN I HAVE TO CHARGE IT WHILE YOUR SPAMMING ME WITH MASS DRIVER ROUNDS AND SPRAYING ME WITH SUPER STRAFE SPEED I HAVE TO CHARGE THE DAMN THING SORRY IT TAKES A LITTLE SKILL FOR ME TO USE A FORGE GUN UNLIKE THE MASSDRIVER FLAYLOCK AND GRENADE SPAM SORRY HEAVYS HAVE A GUN TO FIGHT BACK WITH
Dude I'm not the one dying. It's not QQ. Please read thread. Play ambush and watch the killfeed you'll see.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:26:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:analysis: w/e mlt fit, did surprisingly well. 7/0. Needs some practice. And a bigger nanohive.
Check.
Up to the nerf queue. Yes thanks.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:30:00 -
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ladwar wrote:meh seen FGers go 35+/0 killing no vehicles during the whole match. i don't see why it should be nerfed.
Right? I mean obviously they're working as intended...
Wait a minute!
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:36:00 -
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TuFar Gon wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Jin Robot wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:For you guys info, I drive a logistics LAV. I'm not affected by Forge Guns in any way since they can never hit me. But I can see them in the killfeed. It gets more kills than weapons that are supposed to kill infantry, like the laser and scrambler rifle. Just play ambush Manus Peak vs some top corps you'll see many Forge Gunners there going 20/0.
-XOXO Oh, please tell us what weapons are "supposed" to be in the killfeed. Gtfo murder taxi troll. lol if only my HMG was any good I surely wouldn't drive my LAV. Killfeed is supposed to be ARs and LAV until everything else gets good. Forge Guns GTFO and do AV. -XOXO If anything needs nerfed its those damn logi lav's that seem to b able to take more dmg than a tank,,,true story,,im on table top lookin downward at a stuck limbus,,STUCK,,my proto forge with lvl 5 prof and two complex dmg mods ,,lets loose 3 rounds of beautiful blue turds onto the top end of said limbus,,AND DIDNT EVEN DROP ITS SHIELDS,,yeah,u heard me,,like I said b4 those logi lav's need nerfed if anything at all,,,OH YEAH,keep the binky in ur mouth & stop bitchn=::
If you actually read the forums you would have seen that I already made a nerf logi LAVs thread. I accept the fact that they're OP at killing. Why can't you do the same with lolForgeGuns? Accept that the gun is too good at killing infantry!!!!!
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:44:00 -
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martinofski wrote:Pretty sure your LLAV will be nerfed first. You're probably going 20/0 every game doing this lame murder taxi. The only reason heavy use forge guns more now is because it is more fun than the HMG and actually bring some variety to the heavy class which currently have 2 choices of built.
Yep and I really can't wait for that nerf hammer. I made a thread not to long ago asking for a logi LAV nerf. It's funny that Forge Gunners don't do the same. Not that they're ever going to do it. When did you saw TAR users begging for a nerf? lmao
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FATPrincess - XOXO
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:05:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:seriously WTF happened?
I went to bed yesterday with every AR ***** whining about flaylocks, and I woke up today with every AR ***** whining about forge guns...
you guys really don't stop whining at all do you? ******* grow some skill....learn to use those, useless stumps you call fingers to do something other then play with yourself and play the god dam game the way it's meant to be played >.<
I don't use ARs.....
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:10:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:For you guys info, I drive a logistics LAV. I'm not affected by Forge Guns in any way since they can never hit me. But I can see them in the killfeed. It gets more kills than weapons that are supposed to kill infantry, like the laser and scrambler rifle. Just play ambush Manus Peak vs some top corps you'll see many Forge Gunners there going 20/0.
-XOXO Yup... 20/0 blowing up 13 lavs 3 tanks and a derpship. Gtfo with this nonsense. Before crying wolf try the damn thing out. When maruaders return tanks will be fine. As for killing infantry. Casualties of war... stop lav spamming and u will see a lot less forges
This doesn't apply to you since you're using it as intended with your mad skills. Actually you don't have the right to post in any nerf/OP thread until you're out of the top ten players. YOU GTFO
Just teasing you btw <3
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:33:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Pre-trying to snipe with FG again:
I used to do it, felt like a scrub, and stopped. It's especially the Assault ones that perplex me the most. Anyways, let's see how a MLT fit goes. See? I knew I wasn't crazy! All of you saying the lolForgeGun is fine are a bunch of ****** scrubs that don't like the HMG because it sucks and don't want their toy nerf. Well guess what CCP.Is watching the killfeed and you're in the top 5 when your job is to destroy vehicles! And don't tell me because LAV spam because you know you can't kill them. You can't kill me! GTFO!!!!! -XOXO What CCP will find when monitoring any random killfeed is a hell of a lot more [Baloch - Impact] than [9K330 Forge Gun]. And your primary job is transporting mercs, and I'm sure that is all you ever use it for, amirite? Tell you what -- I'll agree to a forge range nerf, if you agree that your LLAV murder taxi begins taking direct damage to armor, in direct proportion to how much health I had when you ran me over. Hit me at full health, and you take 1012 armor damage. Deal?
I already proposed an LAV nerf in one of my threads not to long ago. Unlike Forge Gunners, I don't mind any nerf to the LAV because right now they aren't working as intended. Same as lolForgeGuns killing infantry.
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:36:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Plasma cannons also kill infantry, and are better at it then FGs. Should we look for ways to nerf the plasma cannon? If I ever see a "nerf plasma cannon" thread I will LOL and forever troll them. If people want to balance the FGs they would have to balance across the board. For every nerf there would have to be a buff. Nerf the assaults range and you'd have to buff it's splash and splash damage. Afterwards you'd tone the damage down abit on the regular FG. If the Breach is touched in any way,shape, or form you'd have to get rid of those stupid penalties. The breach is fine it's a purely AV FG. The assault you could nerf but it'd need a buff to make it an AI weapon as well as AV weapon. The regular is fine. Which FGs is the OP complaining about? The PRO lvl or MLT lvl what? Can't just go nerfing the PRO FGs without ******* the current AV balance.
EhhhH, Plasma Cannons aren't AV, they suck at AV. It's ok to use them at killing infantry. Otherwise it's a completely useless weapon.
Let's say the Assault is the most OP one and it's the one specifically being used for killing infantry.
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