DUST Search - So everyone hates Forge Guns now, huh?

King Kobrah wrote:

ER-Bullitt wrote:

King Kobrah wrote:

[quote=DS 10]

I counter garbage heavies by giving them nothing to shoot at the whole game

unlike trash roof-camping havies, i'm actually helping my team hack objectives and playing the game, so i don't have time to go out of my way to kill a garbage heavy perched atop the tallest tower in the game.

can't wait until CCP destroys the splash radius/damage so we can actually have an FPS with gun game and not LOL IF I SHOOT 3 METERS IN HIS VICINITY ILL WIN ^__________^

/thread

This guy wants Dust to play just like COD, as he says above. He is incapable of seeing the error in his ways, in his comments, in his misinformation and exagerration spread accross 20+ pages now (2 threads). He refuses to adjust his gameplay to allow for more than AR 514. Anyone who kills him, and doesnt use the same weapon he does, is a terribad player using an OP weapon. How cute.

Save this quote people, in case this guy decides to waste anymore bandwith with his ANYONE WHO DOESNT PLAY THE GAME THE WAY I WANT THEM TO IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO GTFO nonsense.

COD is ---> that way.

I don't play call of duty, i only play high skill competitive shooters. Are you another butthurt heavy who can't stand the thought of taking his ezmode weapon away?


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ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.07.11 17:49:00 - [1] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: See I like this. You laid out the complaints in a clear concise format and rebuked and used logic to counter or agree with certain arguments. This is what the forum should be used for. Now for the topic at hand. First, no I'm not QQing about the FG. I'm about 14m SP all into infantry. I have never had the thought that Forge Guns were too good until I got some turret skills and started being a gunner for my corp mate's Assault Dropships. That was when I realized how silly it is to be flying something so expensive and yet so weak. My only true concern with the FG is how good it is against dropships, which, again, isn't a product of the FG being too good. In my opinion a lot of the QQ would be quelled if: a) Payouts for vehicle pilots were better, and b) Dropships got a resistance and/or HP buff against. It should take at least a full clip to take down an equivalent level dropship. What you describe with your tank encounter is perfectly fine and I personally believe is fair and balanced. So, in short, leave the FG alone, buff ISK payout for vehicles somehow, and give dropships some better resistances or just release the damn proto-level dropships already. Sorry, didnt mean to imply YOU specifically were QQ'ing. Just a general sentiment regarding all the new "nerf OP Forge" threads. Agree with everything you wrote.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.07.11 18:06:00 - [2] - Quote Caeli SineDeo wrote: Only major thing I want back on forges is the trail so I know where the damn shot is coming from. Another big thing is that vehicles apear at further distances for infantry to see so they can be shooting us and we can not even see them because of the ** draw distance. I do not overly mind that they are somewhat effective against infantry. Thats fine. Just to damn effective against vehicles. Does that mean you need to nerf Forge guns. No. Just need to rework vehicles and I think that mostly needs to be the modules. I want people to come at me too... it gets boring up on those roofs sometimes :) If CCP wanted to put a big red arrow pointing over my head the enitre match saying "KILL THIS ***" I would be all for it. As I said before I run AV for points, but also mostly to protect my squad. My guys like to run logi, or HMG's, or AR's, and they are awesome with them. Im good with those weapons too, but I have the AV tools in hand ready to use... and nobody hates anything more than being run over by a free LAV. I kill those, lots of them, LLAV's too sometimes. What do I tell people when they invite me to their squad? I will take care of the vehicles, now go hack some objectives and lets win this **. Regarding draw distance.... I think you have a good case here. I certainly do not want to be able to shoot at people who cannot see me, that is unfair. If the draw distance is in fact 250m, but my max range is 300m, then that needs to be fixed. Granted, as a forge gunner it is damn near impossible to hit anything at the max range.. on paper it would make the deaths people have been receiving more palatable. With that said, as a Heavy with no points in dampening, you should be able to see the red arrow over my head if you point at me with your rail tank. And your range is what, 600m? So its not as if I am "invisible" but the pixles of my body are not rendering. If that is what you mean.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.07.11 18:10:00 - [3] - Quote ladwar wrote: so i just want to point out the rendering range on rails puts them within FG range, fix it now! Just want to point out ALOT of rail tankers I talk to have no problems sniping rooftop forge gunners even with the currently borked draw distance. But I personally do not drive tanks, so if you need help or guidance you may want to make a thread about the issues you are having killing guys like me.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.07.11 18:14:00 - [4] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: ladwar wrote: so i just want to point out the rendering range on rails puts them within FG range, fix it now! Just want to point out ALOT of rail tankers I talk to have no problems sniping rooftop forge gunners even with the currently borked draw distance. But I personally do not drive tanks, so if you need help or guidance you may want to make a thread about the issues you are having killing guys like me. I've heard tell people with SSD drives are mostly ok with Dust as it regards to many issues along these lines. Perhaps relevant? Sorry man, dont have enough knowledge on the subject to answer this question.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 66	Posted - 2013.07.11 19:45:00 - [5] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: [quote=DS 10] I counter garbage heavies by giving them nothing to shoot at the whole game unlike trash roof-camping havies, i'm actually helping my team hack objectives and playing the game, so i don't have time to go out of my way to kill a garbage heavy perched atop the tallest tower in the game. can't wait until CCP destroys the splash radius/damage so we can actually have an FPS with gun game and not LOL IF I SHOOT 3 METERS IN HIS VICINITY ILL WIN ^__________^ /thread This guy wants Dust to play just like COD, as he says above. He is incapable of seeing the error in his ways, in his comments, in his misinformation and exagerration spread accross 20+ pages now (2 threads). He refuses to adjust his gameplay to allow for more than AR 514. Anyone who kills him, and doesnt use the same weapon he does, is a terribad player using an OP weapon. How cute. Save this quote people, in case this guy decides to waste anymore bandwith with his ANYONE WHO DOESNT PLAY THE GAME THE WAY I WANT THEM TO IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO GTFO nonsense. COD is ---> that way.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 66	Posted - 2013.07.11 20:23:00 - [6] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: King Kobrah wrote: [quote=DS 10] I counter garbage heavies by giving them nothing to shoot at the whole game unlike trash roof-camping havies, i'm actually helping my team hack objectives and playing the game, so i don't have time to go out of my way to kill a garbage heavy perched atop the tallest tower in the game. can't wait until CCP destroys the splash radius/damage so we can actually have an FPS with gun game and not LOL IF I SHOOT 3 METERS IN HIS VICINITY ILL WIN ^__________^ /thread This guy wants Dust to play just like COD, as he says above. He is incapable of seeing the error in his ways, in his comments, in his misinformation and exagerration spread accross 20+ pages now (2 threads). He refuses to adjust his gameplay to allow for more than AR 514. Anyone who kills him, and doesnt use the same weapon he does, is a terribad player using an OP weapon. How cute. Save this quote people, in case this guy decides to waste anymore bandwith with his ANYONE WHO DOESNT PLAY THE GAME THE WAY I WANT THEM TO IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO GTFO nonsense. COD is ---> that way. I don't play call of duty, i only play high skill competitive shooters. Are you another butthurt heavy who can't stand the thought of taking his ezmode weapon away? Butthurt? Hardly. You just come off as a crybaby with no basis to your argument. I have had the unfortunate pleasure of sifting through all of your garbage posts and you dont make any valid points besides "this is unfair". When I read between the lines, all I can come up with is that you refuse to adjust your gameplay to take back the vantage point. You wish it wasnt there, a la COD. Then you compound your lack of a point by referring to all heavies as "garbage" who decide to support their team from a tactically advantageous position overlooking the entire battlefield. Are you retarted? Why WOULDNT you take up that position? I know I help my team pleanty by dedicating myself to AV. This game is not all about hacking points and shooting people with AR's. Once all of your teams tanks, murdertaxis, dropships, installations, CRU's and Supply Depots are removed from the battlefield I will be coming after you... one splash at a time. And if you ask nicely, I will jump down and kill you with my HMG instead. Which way would you prefer to die?
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 66	Posted - 2013.07.11 21:07:00 - [7] - Quote EZ-Mode... this is an interesting point. Kobra, you are probably a beta player right? Probably sitting on 15+ million SP right? Part of a top tier corporation, filled with other players who have been recruited, the best of the best, just like you right? Huge head start on SP, maxed proficiency in your AR, fuse grenades, shield tanked. Right so far? Players like me, we have taken our lumps going up against the likes of you for months. We have grinded our skill points, tried out the different weapons, figured out what we like to use, maybe respec'd... we now have our proto gear too. Ok, so now that we have that ironed out.... you have been used to roflstomping your competition for what, 5-6 months or more? Now the big question, who is really butthurt that their ez-mode is gone? It is you, pal.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 66	Posted - 2013.07.11 21:41:00 - [8] - Quote DS 10 wrote: hooc order wrote: This thread was so much better with the flame war DS 10 started with me...and then lost. Anyway to bring back the debate some dude said that the video of using a forge from covered high ground to defend an objective was not tactical. I disagreed. I don't remember ever losing anything to you... Just watched your video DS, good stuff. Reminds me of, well, me lol /air high five! WIll look forward to the day I have the chance to test my skills against you. May the best forge win :P
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 67	Posted - 2013.07.11 22:09:00 - [9] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: so your argument for keeping forge guns OP is "ITS ALL I CAN DO TO KILL GOOD PLAYERS?" That's ridiculous. There you go, making **** up again. You must have a reading comprehension problem or something. smh Lemme guess, you run a flaylock dont you? sigh Blah it doesnt matter... work is over, time to go play. Maybe you should do the same, you know pratice your dropship piloting skills to take out all those big, bad, scaaawwwy forge gun monsters with your totally not OP weapon of choice today. LOLscrub.