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Mamertine Son
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:43:00 -
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I got the idea from HERE, HERE, and over HERE the CPM said it would require some back up from a reliable source like a big corporation.
Yeah... I don't have that kind of support but I figured it would be pretty cool if I could get a lottery to work anyway...
So this is how we would do it. Since this would be all new and stuff and know one knows whether or not this is a scam I would need 10 people to agree to trying it out with a minimum of 5. That is if I can't get at least 5 people to take the risk then the lottery idea becomes a bust (for now at least).
For the very first round ticket prices will be 50k isk and people can only buy one ticket. I imagine players are more afraid of being scammed than losing a lot of money (that's just the icing). But 50k isn't a lot considering even a bad player can make that amount back in a single ambush.
My ultimate goal is to follow the EvE equivalent, BIG lottery, as suggested by the CPM above. I plan to make an alt character (Mamertine Lotteries) where all ticket purchase would made and this lottery character would finance itself. That means any extra funds acquired from drawings would simply be recirculated to increase prizes or cover the cost of prizes should there be not enough people playing.
Here's a little road map for you.
Lottery #1 - Alpha test10 entries only, one ticket per person, 50k each
1st Prize: 300k
2nd Prize: 200k
3rd Prize: 100k
And if you do the math. 10 entries, 50k each, equals 500k and the prizes are a total of 600k which means I have to cover 100k. But since this is a trial run I figure it makes sense to do it this way. Eventualy ticket sales should finance themselves.
Lottery #2 - Beta test20 entries only, one ticket max per person, 10k each
1st Prize: 300k
2nd Prize: 200k
3rd Prize: 100k
Math: 200k tickets, 600k prizes equals 400k I have to cover. (we'll cross that bridge when we get there).
Lottery #3 - Post-Beta test30 entries only, 5 tickets max per person, 5k each
1st Prize: 350k
2nd Prize: 225k
3rd Prize: 125k
Math: 750k (potential) tickets, 700k prizes equals... 50k net gain, huzzah! 
Lottery #X - Post-Post-Beta testNo maximum, some large max of tickets per person, 1k each
1st Prize: 40% ----------> 350k min.
2nd Prize: 30% ---------> 225k min.
3rd Prize: 25% ----------> 125k min.
Math: if all goes well, 95% of pool goes to winners, extra 5% gets recycled into the next lottery drawing or to finance future lotteries.
The ticket drawing itself would occur through a little java program I made with a simple randomizer (for more info on random number generators go here Random.org). The program would select 3 tickets from the list of tickets ensuring no duplicates of ticket number or player name.
--------------> reserved for youtube demonstration
I will post a youtube link for every drawing, just so you guys see whats happening, either here or somewhere on the forums. I first need to find out how to record my computer screen.
Remember this is NOT for profit. The lottery character, Mamertine Lotteries, will simply be there to finance the lottery.
Any payments will have to be made according to exact ticket prices. (i.e. if tickets cost 1k, 5k will get you 5 tickets). If you pay any amount greater than the ticket price the extra money will be refunded to you. In fact, if you want as a kind of test, make an irregular payment (like 50,001) so that I can refund it. Also If you pay less than the cost of a single ticket you will be refunded but not given a ticket.
OK, I think that covers everything. Hopefully, if I can get enough support, CCP might spread the word and then I'll be famous.
BEAST MODE
(CCP, any comments?)
TL;DR
Lets do a lottery, I know we're in New Eden but this isn't a scam.
Thanks for at least listening.
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Mamertine Son
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:13:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Is nobody really interested in this? Give it time OP , if you build it they will come or some **** like that 
Thanks! And thank you for the advice!
(also bump)
And maybe if/when ccp initiates item transfer I could add weapons or dropsuits with the cash prizes.
Just a thought. |
Mamertine Son
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:53:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Gallente and Caldari really are only after money. I don't need your money, for I have the Lord.
but I'm curious why you are doing it if not for profit.
This wouldn't be something that easy to manage, you don't get notifications for when people send you money, you'd have to look in your wallet transaction history and determine who bought what and what refunding they need if any. May not be too complicated, but if this ever kicks off just imagine doing this for hundreds of players. I'm not really convinced anyone would do this simply for fun.
I actually assumed you did get notifications... tested it out, nope don't get notified for isk transfers.
Though the only purpose for my alt character would be for lottery purposes so that would make it easier to manage incoming ticket purchases.
Yeah I considered trying this for profit but I realized I only want to enhance my own social experience. If it gets too much for me I can always just stop.
Besides, all transactions come in powers of a thousand so it wouldn't be difficult to just shave off remainders. If EvE holds successful lotteries why can't we? Perhaps I'll need a few people to help me. I don't know, I'll figure it out when I get there.
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Mamertine Son
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:02:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:You can't actually manually enter any number you want for ISK transfers, though I suppose you wouldn't see many people doing that.
tested that also and you can.
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Mamertine Son
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:58:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:The real issue with lotteries right now is reputation and the current lack of full transaction history. I would love to see lotteries get off the ground and have some reps build and fall, but these transaction limitations need to be taken into account.
You have the right idea on limiting ticket purchases, but you really need to start a corp. I see NPC corp and I automatically think scam.
I think I'll take your mostly neutral comment as an encouraging sign of trust.
As for problems with transactions, I do have a couple of ideas to work around these issues. My lottery program reads off of a text file that I currently have to update manually but I am figuring out how to add in a neat automatic update module into the program.
That should make it some what easier. I could also after every time a record recent transactions make a small payment. The wallet would then have a red divider amongst all of that green.
If it makes you feel any better my alternate character is already in a pretty active corp called catch my bullets. I suppose it would be pretty cool to have my own corp for this operation. For obvious reasons it would be an irregular group but I might even be able to recruit a few people to help me. |
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