no, just no, then you would make all tanks useless if there the same as the enforcers

enjoy waiting 15 sec to get less hp than an armor tank? If so pick a caldari tank! Don't worry you get 24 shields back passively every second. who needs speed when you are self sufficient killing machine.

Is the sales pitch used.

since the enforcers are meant to be better than standard, how about actually make them better?

HAHA no.Have you forgot that most used AV is better against armor? Plus Caldari HAV's are more manuverable than Gallente HAV's? The list goes on and on. The fix that Caldari HAV's need is for passive Shield regen to be viable, and then a slight boost to the out put of shield boosters for the Winmatar HAV's. Then, if I ever see a QQ thread about Caldari HAV's sucking I'll just laugh at it.

(note: increase the timer of the hardners to 15 seconds too.)


Peace, AIzen

theres a post that does what this post is meant for but better. here ya goo

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93323&find=unread

lol. tell that to your corpmate, Jason

lol he thinks enforcers are good

I have seen people put rails on enforcers even though neither one has a bonus to them.

I really wish tank losses and kills could be a stat, mine would be very positive compared with many of the dumber tankers.

If you manage to be good with a sheild tank, it means you are realy good at it because you are using a gimped tank, you have to use tatics I did when using millita tanks vs standard or maraduers like

1. not engaging a tank unless heavly wounded, and or doing a suprise attack from the back

2. sniping (and doing it from hull down, not geting hit)

3. waiting for them to exaust repers, and hardeners

4. never geting hit in general, and allways ready to run if you don't have a heavy advantage

Are you blind sir it has been this way for a very long time shield beats armor vs infantry and armor beats shield vs each other.

A way to fix the imbalance is have a sheild regen is have it many fold higher for HAV's propotional to sheild hp. Making it a real factor in tanking, for a passive regen build, and not a afterthought joke like it is currently

In clown car LAV's the sheild regen is high enough where I don't need a booster, what is it, 70 compared with a 40 of a tank. Considering tanks have double the HP, and can't avoid or run away as good, its painfully slow.

having it closer to for every thousand of sheld hp you have a 50 second regen would be much better, and obviously make it so shield regen mods give a even higher bonus then just stacking extenders.

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What everyone needs to remember before smearing the current tank builds is that there are 2 more races of vehicles that haven't even been introduced yet and from what i can tell your using your caldari tank wrong. An enforcer tank is best at taking out installations from afar not bludgeoning a brawler who is specifically built for just that "brawling" you don't have the dps with a missile turret to out-dps a blaster at close range even if you get the drop....maybe if hes a noob tanker but that's it. Your meant to bombard infantry, vehicles, and installations from a distance not charging home guns blazing. Also did you even have gunner or ground support? Don't complain about a screwdriver when you need a hammer
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Im talking about working with your team and strategically taking out cru's and supply depots. If you want to snipe use a rail and stop complaining about shield tanks not performing to speck. You've had plenty of time to gauge your choices and what you wanted to speck into. Use cheaper sh!t if you can't put up the bill for those enforcers you love. Remember these are trophy's every red dot wants on his mantle, if your not ready to use em for what their intended, don't waste the isk.

enforcers are for long range......are you people stupid? stop trying to get up close to an enemy with enforcers.they are not for that so stop trying to make them like that.....or you could stay stupid and keep using them close to the enemy. read the enforcers skill. its says it sacrifices armor shield and speed for absolute power at range! it is better than regular tanks but you have to be at range.

"...stay stupid and keep using them close to the enemy."

So tired of these threads...

Instead of maybe discussing how to fight their counters,

THEY PIGEONHOLE THEMSELVES IN ONE ROLE.

Do I keep an Assault Dropship fielded when 3 folks are rolling Proto forge guns? HELL NO.
Will I charge a Gallente tank with a Caldari Rail/Blaster (maybe missile)? HELL NO.

This "Balance" you speak of is a Handicap of the Weak Mind unwilling to think past its own Pride.

If the enemy fields your counter, FIELD ITS COUNTER!!!

@ Kharga......aw man really? hey man if this is the case then i apologize. for some reason i did not realize that the bonus abilities worked like that.

Bigger question: where's Blam!?

A big problem is that shield-based options for infantry get a HUGE advantage with their base shield regen stats, but vehicles get nothing. Shield tanks have such pathetic base regen rate that it may as well not exist when you look at the regen rate compared with the amount of HP we're dealing with. The base stats on a Shield tank vs. equal tier Armour tank are such that when relying on passive regen, the Armour tank actually RECOVERS ITS SHIELDS FASTER THAN THE SHIELD TANK. Both take more than 2 minutes to recover, meaning you're relying heavily on boosters for shield recovery, but that SHOULD be one of the advantages of shields vs. armour, and it isn't. Double the base regen AT LEAST on shield tanks - maybe more, add a regen delay stat that differs between Shield and Armour tanks, and make Shield Regenerators reduce delay as well as increasing regen rate.