This is a simple request really, spawned from the rather complex situation of the new armour plates that were added in 1.2. The new plates are currently useless, but I'm happy that CCP has finally began putting things into the game in an underpowered state, instead of having them godlike.

My solution to the armour tanking problem, aside from fixing the numbers with the new reactive and ferroscale plates, is to add nanofibre plates. Nanofibre plates used to be in the game as an add on for vehicles that gave them a boost in speed but lowered hp. My proposed idea does something similar:

- Basic Nanofibre plates:
- +3% Movement speed, -30 armour, 1hp/sec armour repair.

- Advanced Nanofibre plates:
- +5% Movement speed, -35 armour, 2hp/sec armour repair.

- Complex Nanofibre plates:
- +10% Movement speed, -45 armour, 3hp/sec arnour repair.

The proposed numbers are for reference only. The idea behind this proposition is mainly to have something to offset the speed penalty of armour tanking. So I can offset the penalty of regular complex plates, getting a hp boost that's better than basic plates but worse than enhanced, whilst also getting some small hp regen. I feel that the tactical opportunities would be great for the proposed numbers and for a module of this kind.

How are these not useless? Only good at making shield suits faster since they CAN sacrifice the armor not us.

Also nanofiber plates in EVE increase armor not decrease it.

Actually in Eve, they decrease hull amount and are used as ways to increase the speed of shield ships since armor fits are no longer viable with nanofiber structure mods.

Also, they reduce mass.

You're looking at the wrong mod, search for nanofiber internal structures, not the plate variation.

You told me that plates reduce armour and increase speed, I am aware that there is a difference.

My suggestion would have been named GÇ£Nanofibre chassisGÇ¥ but it doesn't really fit with a dropsuit. Perhaps I should have named it GÇ£Nanofibre ExoskeletonGÇ¥ instead? Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: Reading my last few posts I realise I might sound a little rude, perhaps curt. My sincere apologies for any misunderstanding.

Oh not at all, then again I haven't paid much attention. However I don't think that plates the reduce armor for reps make sense with us having speed and armor mods that do those alone, especially since speedy armor is a pretty heavy contradiction. Speed may not be the proper combination for armor tanking but I'm sure you can find one.

This is a simple request really, spawned from the rather complex situation of the new armour plates that were added in 1.2. The new plates are currently useless, but I'm happy that CCP has finally began putting things into the game in an underpowered state, instead of having them godlike.

My solution to the armour tanking problem, aside from fixing the numbers with the new reactive and ferroscale plates, is to add nanofibre plates. Nanofibre plates used to be in the game as an add on for vehicles that gave them a boost in speed but lowered hp. My proposed idea does something similar:

- Basic Nanofibre plates:
- +3% Movement speed, -30 armour, 1hp/sec armour repair.

- Advanced Nanofibre plates:
- +5% Movement speed, -35 armour, 2hp/sec armour repair.

- Complex Nanofibre plates:
- +10% Movement speed, -45 armour, 3hp/sec arnour repair.

The proposed numbers are for reference only. The idea behind this proposition is mainly to have something to offset the speed penalty of armour tanking. So I can offset the penalty of regular complex plates, getting a hp boost that's better than basic plates but worse than enhanced, whilst also getting some small hp regen. I feel that the tactical opportunities would be great for the proposed numbers and for a module of this kind.

This is a simple request really, spawned from the rather complex situation of the new armour plates that were added in 1.2. The new plates are currently useless, but I'm happy that CCP has finally began putting things into the game in an underpowered state, instead of having them godlike.

My solution to the armour tanking problem, aside from fixing the numbers with the new reactive and ferroscale plates, is to add nanofibre plates. Nanofibre plates used to be in the game as an add on for vehicles that gave them a boost in speed but lowered hp. My proposed idea does something similar:

- Basic Nanofibre plates:
- +3% Movement speed, -30 armour, 1hp/sec armour repair.

- Advanced Nanofibre plates:
- +5% Movement speed, -35 armour, 2hp/sec armour repair.

- Complex Nanofibre plates:
- +10% Movement speed, -45 armour, 3hp/sec arnour repair.

The proposed numbers are for reference only. The idea behind this proposition is mainly to have something to offset the speed penalty of armour tanking. So I can offset the penalty of regular complex plates, getting a hp boost that's better than basic plates but worse than enhanced, whilst also getting some small hp regen. I feel that the tactical opportunities would be great for the proposed numbers and for a module of this kind.

no thanks, armor tanks need the next set of plates, 1.2 plates were meant for everyone else but armor tankers.

So what you're saying is....

The new plates don't do much to help armor tankers, they're almost more useful for shield tankers to use instead.

So what you want to do is, release even more plates that are even worse for armor tankers and excellent for shield tankers, and that this will somehow fix the problem of armor being worse than shields?

This is literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen on these forums.

So what you're saying is....

The new plates don't do much to help armor tankers, they're almost more useful for shield tankers to use instead.

So what you want to do is, release even more plates that are even worse for armor tankers and excellent for shield tankers, and that this will somehow fix the problem of armor being worse than shields?

This is literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen on these forums.

The idea is pretty nice but the rep bonus could be a bit too much, also currently penalties are apllied as a percentage value for most modules. All in all +1

So what about:

- Basic Nanofibre plates:
- +3% Movement speed, -3% (base) Amour

- Advanced Nanofibre plates:
- +5% Movement speed, -5% (base) Amour

- Complex Nanofibre plates:
- +10% Movement speed, -10% (base) Amour

So what you're saying is....

The new plates don't do much to help armor tankers, they're almost more useful for shield tankers to use instead.

So what you want to do is, release even more plates that are even worse for armor tankers and excellent for shield tankers, and that this will somehow fix the problem of armor being worse than shields?

This is literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen on these forums.

Could you explain why do you think so? To fit this module a shield tanker has to sacrifice either a damage mod, a Shield energizer or an extender. True shieldtankers would rather fit regulators instead of Armorplates and maybe a repper. Hybrid tankers will surely benefit a bit...

Could you explain why do you think so? To fit this module a shield tanker has to sacrifice either a damage mod, a Shield energizer or an extender. True shieldtankers would rather fit regulators instead of Armorplates and maybe a repper. Hybrid tankers will surely benefit a bit...

So what if I stacked three of these on my cal logi?

94 - 45*3 < 0... do I just die instantly the moment I spawn in?

But it is widely known that you get more out of a shield extender than a damage module, for a shield tank it makes them speed tanks at the cost of armor and a small amount of shield HP. For a armor tank it balances the speed penalty for the cost of our shield buffer which is a short protection against explosives, and reduces our main tank.

Also it makes Caldari suits the best active/speed tanks due to now getting a 40%-50% increase in speed and a 12-15 passive armor repair along with their super high shield repair and buffing it with some shield regulators and armor repairers. Pretty much the addition of this would make Caldari and Minmatar suits godly and impossible to kill.

To put into perspective using 5 of your new high modules, 2 complex regulators, and 2 armor repairers with a stacking penalty a caldari logistics suit can get speed of 6.17 m/s, sprint speeds of 8.64, a shield delay of 2.14 seconds and an armor repair of 36.25, and a shield repair of 20 with an EHP of 337. Except of course he would have 0 armor, but still these are some pretty insane numbers. He can also remove two repairers and add two complex plates which would give him an armor HP of 140 a shield HP of 225 and a armor repair of 23.75. Although a squishy fit he can instantly regenerate any form of damage and the only way to kill it is be ganking or using a flaylock.