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Washlee
Not Guilty
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:09:00 -
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Well I've seen the gameplay for the Jet Fighters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUlJbah93tM
I still don't get why we don't have them.
The Main reason from what I heard is that the maps were too small. And that was used last Build in Chromosome.
Now we have huge maps for no reason.
If the maps are still too small do what Battlefield does and Jets get to go farther off map.
Unless there's another reason that we don't have jet fighters... |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
221
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:14:00 -
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It is interesting to see how far they were actually into Jets even in that build, but i mean is that really from chromosome? Even those LAV's (if that's what they are) look nothing like the LAV's we have right now or had in chromosome, and the bad physics make it look like its on the moon. Although the jet looked correct and it seemed to fly pretty well... so I'm not sure why that's at-least not in the game yet. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3230
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:15:00 -
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Wrong. The jets were not around in Chromosome. They were around much earlier than that. Even as early as Replication. But they are correct that jets were removed due to the fact that they were super fast and they were operating in maps so constricted that you often flew inside the red zone. However, CCP does have plans to bring them back as they said during Fanfest 2013. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
682
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:17:00 -
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This looks like footage from the old Carbon engine, not the unreal we are using now. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3230
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:18:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:This looks like footage from the old Carbon engine, not the unreal we are using now.
It is from CCP's in-house Carbon engine. Unfortunately the engine is still new and still being fine tuned by CCP. The problem with it is that it's a bit resource intensive. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
174
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:29:00 -
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Why have jets when derpships can fill every role in the sky? *sigh*
CCP has not even listed them as a near future item so I doubt we will see them this year.
Personally, Im saving up all my SP from here on out for the possibility that we will ever get them. I should have around 20 mil unallocated by that time. |
Dao Ferret
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
157
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:52:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Why have jets when derpships can fill every role in the sky? *sigh*
CCP has not even listed them as a near future item so I doubt we will see them this year.
Personally, Im saving up all my SP from here on out for the possibility that we will ever get them. I should have around 20 mil unallocated by that time.
They may not have listed them as "near future" (depending on your perspective of near future), but didn't they show off some working models of the Cal and Gal variety at the FanFest Keynote?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Blueberry Gunners
2192
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:10:00 -
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Before anyone says carbon engine would have been better for dust, pay attention to the video.
Graphics were catastrophic but you still didn't see more than a few players on screen at a time.
This is telling me carbon engine couldn't handle what unreal is doing now. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
2588
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:23:00 -
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The last thing I heard about jets was that they would be "6+ months after release", so I don't expect to see it until well into next year at the earliest. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
174
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:35:00 -
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Dao Ferret wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Why have jets when derpships can fill every role in the sky? *sigh*
CCP has not even listed them as a near future item so I doubt we will see them this year.
Personally, Im saving up all my SP from here on out for the possibility that we will ever get them. I should have around 20 mil unallocated by that time. They may not have listed them as "near future" (depending on your perspective of near future), but didn't they show off some working models of the Cal and Gal variety at the FanFest Keynote?
As far as I know, only sketches have been released other than the old Carbon video |
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
1722
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:36:00 -
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gbghg wrote:The last thing I heard about jets was that they would be "6+ months after release", so I don't expect to see it until well into next year at the earliest.
CCP still doesn't have a clear idea what they want vehicles to do, so adding yet another class is only going to make things worse.
They originally envisioned a lot of vehicle vs. vehicle battles (remember those trailers with half a dozen HAV's hot dropping at once?), but now it's mostly infantry killing vehicles when there are any on the field (with the sole exception of the LLAV).
You will have at least six months, more probably a year before VTOL fighters are available. So build a great infantry fitting before saving your SP.
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Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
174
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:44:00 -
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Skihids wrote:gbghg wrote:The last thing I heard about jets was that they would be "6+ months after release", so I don't expect to see it until well into next year at the earliest. CCP still doesn't have a clear idea what they want vehicles to do, so adding yet another class is only going to make things worse. They originally envisioned a lot of vehicle vs. vehicle battles (remember those trailers with half a dozen HAV's hot dropping at once?), but now it's mostly infantry killing vehicles when there are any on the field (with the sole exception of the LLAV). You will have at least six months, more probably a year before VTOL fighters are available. So build a great infantry fitting before saving your SP.
Agreed. You really need an infantry base in this game before vehicles.
Dropships are niche
Tanks are an ISK sink
LAVs are simply troll machines
I have my infantry pretty much where I want him so the rest will just sit there. Hoping to have 3 mil saved by end of the month |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
1723
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:50:00 -
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I'm going to complete the largest SP sink fitting in the game (Proto Logi) before working my way back into vehicles.
I'm confident that I'll have more than enough time. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
192
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:51:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Before anyone says carbon engine would have been better for dust, pay attention to the video.
Graphics were catastrophic but you still didn't see more than a few players on screen at a time.
This is telling me carbon engine couldn't handle what unreal is doing now.
I take it you've never seen this one.....?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hat4psYcvII |
loumanchew
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
124
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Posted - 2013.07.10 18:13:00 -
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Alucard from WAR? |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
91
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Posted - 2013.07.10 18:18:00 -
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Jets eh...........I cant wait for aa tanks  |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
864
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Posted - 2013.07.10 18:22:00 -
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Well, lets see. That jet gameplay video is 4 years old.
But CCP is working on this game.
Wait another 4 years. Maybe you'll see them talk about it then. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
864
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Posted - 2013.07.10 18:23:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Jets eh...........I cant wait for aa tanks
seeing as how the only air is derpships right now don't you mean anti-dropship tanks?
But I thought red-line rail sniping tanks 3 shoting max EHP DS from 600 meters outside render range for the pilot to see the tank WAS ALREADY an anti-DS tank.
Why do we need more anti DS? |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3234
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:08:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Dao Ferret wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Why have jets when derpships can fill every role in the sky? *sigh*
CCP has not even listed them as a near future item so I doubt we will see them this year.
Personally, Im saving up all my SP from here on out for the possibility that we will ever get them. I should have around 20 mil unallocated by that time. They may not have listed them as "near future" (depending on your perspective of near future), but didn't they show off some working models of the Cal and Gal variety at the FanFest Keynote? As far as I know, only sketches have been released other than the old Carbon video
Actually, they did show some new animated renders during the Fanfest 2013 Keynote for Dust 514. It's posted on YouTube right now. The even showed working models of the hover bikes. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3234
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:10:00 -
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Alucard Fang wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Before anyone says carbon engine would have been better for dust, pay attention to the video.
Graphics were catastrophic but you still didn't see more than a few players on screen at a time.
This is telling me carbon engine couldn't handle what unreal is doing now. I take it you've never seen this one.....? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hat4psYcvII
What the hell kind of tank is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hat4psYcvII#t=50s
That's even bigger than the Madrugar!!! |
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
393
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:11:00 -
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Washlee wrote:Well I've seen the gameplay for the Jet Fighters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUlJbah93tMI still don't get why we don't have them. The Main reason from what I heard is that the maps were too small. And that was used last Build in Chromosome. Now we have huge maps for no reason. If the maps are still too small do what Battlefield does and Jets get to go farther off map. Unless there's another reason that we don't have jet fighters...
Have you seen tanks and dropships? Jet fighters will be even bigger ISK sinks. Good luck moving at mach 2 and killing someone with a small blaster. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
174
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:10:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Dao Ferret wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Why have jets when derpships can fill every role in the sky? *sigh*
CCP has not even listed them as a near future item so I doubt we will see them this year.
Personally, Im saving up all my SP from here on out for the possibility that we will ever get them. I should have around 20 mil unallocated by that time. They may not have listed them as "near future" (depending on your perspective of near future), but didn't they show off some working models of the Cal and Gal variety at the FanFest Keynote? As far as I know, only sketches have been released other than the old Carbon video Actually, they did show some new animated renders during the Fanfest 2013 Keynote for Dust 514. It's posted on YouTube right now. The even showed working models of the hover bikes.
Have the link to the specific section video or know around how far into the presentation that was? |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
135
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:21:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Washlee wrote:Well I've seen the gameplay for the Jet Fighters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUlJbah93tMI still don't get why we don't have them. The Main reason from what I heard is that the maps were too small. And that was used last Build in Chromosome. Now we have huge maps for no reason. If the maps are still too small do what Battlefield does and Jets get to go farther off map. Unless there's another reason that we don't have jet fighters... Have you seen tanks and dropships? Jet fighters will be even bigger ISK sinks. Good luck moving at mach 2 and killing someone with a small blaster.
They'll have a hover feature. They're VTOL jets after all.
Peace, Aizen |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
135
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:22:00 -
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That's a Sagaris with a Missile turret on it, and no, it is not bigger than a Maddy. The Gallente HAV's from alpha were bigger. |
da GAND
187.
League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:24:00 -
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that actually looks alot funner than we got right now, and no graphics don't make a great game |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
32
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:28:00 -
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....that game looks nothing like the way this game is now.. |
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