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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.10 03:05:00 -
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CCP FRAME said at E3, "matchmaking works, it just needs a few small adjustments." They intended to adjust matchmaking to be gear based. I just don't know how that can work though.
Skill based match making. My skills could be all spread out or I could be a corp CEO, which makes Sp matchmaking unbalanced.
Fitting based match making means if I have a fitting with proto I will be thrown into matches with others that have proto fittings. Well what if I only use proto for PC matches? So this is unbalanced as well.
Inventory based. We get proto suits in slavage, so obviously this isn't going to either.
My proposal will kill 2 birds with 1 stone, and other players have already suggested it. Gear restricted GAMEMODES. The most blatantly obvious fix.
An ambush, skirmish, and dominatrix for each fitting and weapon level. So when you open battle finder you should see
AMBUSH
*Militia
*Standard
*Advanced
*Prototype
Etc....
So when you open your fittings in these gamemodes, all the fittings above the restriction should be red.
This can be done for merc battles as well. Mil, std, adv, and pro level merc battles depending on security of the region.
My question is that this is such an obvious fix. Why hasn't or can't it be done? |
Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
679
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Posted - 2013.07.10 03:13:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Ya know, I bet if they made a game mode with actual incentives over basic ambush and skirmish and "whateverthoseonesthatarebasicallythesamething" that people with greater skill and gear would naturally migrate towards it and not suck so bad.
Just puttin' that out there.
Still doesn't keep proto away from militia suits in pubs. My theory is CCP is a bit worried what would happen to a 4k average population if you introduce gamemodes on skill level.
Well now you are dividing the player base, and by dividing them it gets smaller. 4k becomes 2k or 1k. Imagine if they implement other gamemodes like Pve, the player base gets further divided and the next thing you know. 200 people playing Militia ambush at primetime. |
Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
679
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Posted - 2013.07.10 03:38:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Severance Pay wrote:CCP FRAME said at E3, "matchmaking works, it just needs a few small adjustments." They intended to adjust matchmaking to be gear based. I just don't know how that can work though.
Skill based match making. My skills could be all spread out or I could be a corp CEO, which makes Sp matchmaking unbalanced.
Fitting based match making means if I have a fitting with proto I will be thrown into matches with others that have proto fittings. Well what if I only use proto for PC matches? So this is unbalanced as well.
Inventory based. We get proto suits in slavage, so obviously this isn't going to either.
My proposal will kill 2 birds with 1 stone, and other players have already suggested it. Gear restricted GAMEMODES. The most blatantly obvious fix.
An ambush, skirmish, and dominatrix for each fitting and weapon level. So when you open battle finder you should see
AMBUSH
*Militia
*Standard
*Advanced
*Prototype
Etc....
So when you open your fittings in these gamemodes, all the fittings above the restriction should be red.
This can be done for merc battles as well. Mil, std, adv, and pro level merc battles depending on security of the region.
My question is that this is such an obvious fix. Why hasn't or can't it be done? I disagree completely. Gear separation is not a good idea. What about new players that just skilled into an ADV weapon but still a MLT suit? It should be separated by experience, not gear. Put some experienced and some inexperienced players on each team. The SKILL level will be balanced then. There are so many flaws with gear matchmaking. -People with MLT, STD, ADV, PRO gear on their suit won't really have a place to go -People with PRO suits but have a STD gun. -People with PRO gun with MLT suits -People that have ADV modules and STD guns on a PRO fit?
Dude you are missing it. The match is your choice. If you have adv weapon and want to play in adv game, it is your choice. If you wanna take that advances weapon to militia match, sry that is the whole point behind matchmaking.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
687
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:42:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Severance Pay wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:Severance Pay wrote:CCP FRAME said at E3, "matchmaking works, it just needs a few small adjustments." They intended to adjust matchmaking to be gear based. I just don't know how that can work though.
Skill based match making. My skills could be all spread out or I could be a corp CEO, which makes Sp matchmaking unbalanced.
Fitting based match making means if I have a fitting with proto I will be thrown into matches with others that have proto fittings. Well what if I only use proto for PC matches? So this is unbalanced as well.
Inventory based. We get proto suits in slavage, so obviously this isn't going to either.
My proposal will kill 2 birds with 1 stone, and other players have already suggested it. Gear restricted GAMEMODES. The most blatantly obvious fix.
An ambush, skirmish, and dominatrix for each fitting and weapon level. So when you open battle finder you should see
AMBUSH
*Militia
*Standard
*Advanced
*Prototype
Etc....
So when you open your fittings in these gamemodes, all the fittings above the restriction should be red.
This can be done for merc battles as well. Mil, std, adv, and pro level merc battles depending on security of the region.
My question is that this is such an obvious fix. Why hasn't or can't it be done? I disagree completely. Gear separation is not a good idea. What about new players that just skilled into an ADV weapon but still a MLT suit? It should be separated by experience, not gear. Put some experienced and some inexperienced players on each team. The SKILL level will be balanced then. There are so many flaws with gear matchmaking. -People with MLT, STD, ADV, PRO gear on their suit won't really have a place to go -People with PRO suits but have a STD gun. -People with PRO gun with MLT suits -People that have ADV modules and STD guns on a PRO fit? Dude you are missing it. The match is your choice. If you have adv weapon and want to play in adv game, it is your choice. If you wanna take that advances weapon to militia match, sry that is the whole point behind matchmaking. That's the problem. People may have just gotten an ADV gun but still have STD gear. The PRO and ADV stuff will just be filled with players with PRO everything. There will be players with PRO everything that will put a STD gun on and go around the STD games and stomp everyone. Hope CCP doesn't implement gear matchmaking
Then go into the STD match. It is your choice. Dont think you read my post. If you hve STD gear go to STD matches if you have PRO weapon but no pro fitting you can go to PRO match but it is your choice if you wanna do that, you can still pick STD and use STD fittings. Your choice.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
687
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:46:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Severance Pay wrote:Then go into the STD match. It is your choice. Dont think you read my post. If you hve STD gear go to STD matches if you have PRO weapon but no pro fitting you can go to PRO match but it is your choice if you wanna do that, you can still pick STD and use STD fittings. Your choice. Which also raises the problem that there's no immediate benefit to skilling into Prototype on any individual item when you basically HAVE to have a full Proto suit to be "competitive" in the Proto tier. You CAN bring a partial Proto fitting, but you'll have to expect players in full Proto to still have an edge. This in turn means each tier of matchmaking has HUGELY reduced variety. And that's on top of the fact that high-SP players, as I mentioned in my previous post, will be able to enter the low-end matchmaking and stomp almost as hard as they do with Proto gear because the passives make more of a difference anyway.
Still better than things now. |
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