DUST Search - Matchmaking (Analytical and programming perspective, all nerds report in!)

A B Ablabab wrote:

I think the guys writing matchmaking are screwed, there's just an ungodly amount of junk to take into account.

SP won't work:

Because players can easily spunk SP into useless junk, then have be stuck in a tier that's too high, and we'll have ENDLESS threads of 'I want a respec or I quit', as if we don't have enough of those already.

New players espically wont feel the need to specialise. They want to try new things, and that's only good for the game (Less ARs running around)

Fitting won't work

You can buy and fit suits while in battle, any system which takes suits into account will have people AFKing for the first minute so they can throw together a proto suit and suicide.

How do you balance someone with a proto fit that's BAD. Seriously I know in these forums a lot of people are calling each other out over bad fits, but just look at EVE. It's really easy to fit badly, or worse fit badly for the way you want to play. It's no good putting me up against real proto stompers when I've put all my SP into my brand new proto fit nova knife heavy. Know what I'm saying?

Suits won't work.

On top of that we have to take into account suits. It's easy to think something like:
"Just rank EHP vs DPS, then match on player skill"
But if that ever happens no one will EVER want to run heavy. High damage weapons and solid EHP with no accounting for the drawbacks of the suit.

So. The question I ask y'all is what metrics can you really take into account?
How do you spot a stomper from a nova knife heavy?
How do you know when a player is having a bad day / running a bad fit / is just bad.

I await the knowledge of the crowd.


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Dimmu Borgir II Bannana Boat Corp 158	Posted - 2013.10.07 23:54:00 - [1] - Quote A B Ablabab wrote: I think the guys writing matchmaking are screwed, there's just an ungodly amount of junk to take into account. SP won't work: Because players can easily spunk SP into useless junk, then have be stuck in a tier that's too high, and we'll have ENDLESS threads of 'I want a respec or I quit', as if we don't have enough of those already. New players espically wont feel the need to specialise. They want to try new things, and that's only good for the game (Less ARs running around) Fitting won't work You can buy and fit suits while in battle, any system which takes suits into account will have people AFKing for the first minute so they can throw together a proto suit and suicide. How do you balance someone with a proto fit that's BAD. Seriously I know in these forums a lot of people are calling each other out over bad fits, but just look at EVE. It's really easy to fit badly, or worse fit badly for the way you want to play. It's no good putting me up against real proto stompers when I've put all my SP into my brand new proto fit nova knife heavy. Know what I'm saying? Suits won't work. On top of that we have to take into account suits. It's easy to think something like: "Just rank EHP vs DPS, then match on player skill" But if that ever happens no one will EVER want to run heavy. High damage weapons and solid EHP with no accounting for the drawbacks of the suit. So. The question I ask y'all is what metrics can you really take into account? How do you spot a stomper from a nova knife heavy? How do you know when a player is having a bad day / running a bad fit / is just bad. I await the knowledge of the crowd. War points or skill points are the only measure of how much experience a player has, it doesn't matter that someone has wasted their SP, that's their problem, that person will generally still have as much in-game experience as someone with an equal amount of none wasted SP! War points are the purest measure of balance and could be averaged out over all of that players characters to show a true median of their experience because that's what we want from matchmaking, matching equally experienced players, not equipment and abilities etc.