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hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:15:00 -
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This won't happen but i like thumbing my nose at CCP.
AI already exists in Dust. the turrets are auto attack. So CCP could make a mode where a crap load of turrets drop. Just probably needs a new model.
Also who needs AI when CCP could simply let players play the robots. Again just new models with dropship controls.
Just a helpful reminder of how bad CCP is at making games. |
Loki Keller
Corvus Conspiracy
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:18:00 -
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How would it be PvE if players were controlling the enemies? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:20:00 -
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Loki Keller wrote:How would it be PvE if players were controlling the enemies?
Because he likes shooting his mouth off so fast that he speaks before he thinks, and it is amusing. I mean, this is coming from a guy who thinks a bunch of turrets will be "fun" PvE, and thinks "new models" are just really easy and quick stuff. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:23:00 -
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Loki Keller wrote:How would it be PvE if players were controlling the enemies?
The scope of loss and reward would be different, as well as the absence of player names. Also the battles would be asynchronous. Technically it would not be PvE, you are correct...but the excuse has been from CCP that it would take to much resources (resources that apparently is better used stalling and monitoring and getting really really confused about matchmaking for months and months and months at a time).
Players make a good cheap resource for AI and could be a stop gap. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:26:00 -
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The whole point of PvE is to kill a bunch of stuff, and if one side controls the AI then the whole thing falls apart.
The player side needs a challenge but need to feel like "Gods" against weaker enemies, and if players controlled the enemies then how could you possibly give incentives for constantly losing?
This seems like terrible game design. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:26:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Loki Keller wrote:How would it be PvE if players were controlling the enemies? Because he likes shooting his mouth off so fast that he speaks before he thinks, and it is amusing. I mean, this is coming from a guy who thinks a bunch of turrets will be "fun" PvE, and thinks "new models" are just really easy and quick stuff.
The models already exist...i have seen the footage. Also shooting turrets would be more fun then the current changes to PC coming in two days....also CCP seems to think it is fun...why have event where you are supposed to destroy 100 of them if they thought it wasn't fun? |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:32:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Loki Keller wrote:How would it be PvE if players were controlling the enemies? Because he likes shooting his mouth off so fast that he speaks before he thinks, and it is amusing. I mean, this is coming from a guy who thinks a bunch of turrets will be "fun" PvE, and thinks "new models" are just really easy and quick stuff. The models already exist...i have seen the footage. Also shooting turrets would be more fun then the current changes to PC coming in two days....also CCP seems to think it is fun...why have event where you are supposed to destroy 100 of them if they thought it wasn't fun? A post shopped high poly render in C4D is not equal to an animated, optimized and retextured ingame model.
And i have no clue what "asynchronous" in your earlier comment could possibly mean in this context. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:35:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:The whole point of PvE is to kill a bunch of stuff, and if one side controls the AI then the whole thing falls apart.
The player side needs a challenge but need to feel like "Gods" against weaker enemies, and if players controlled the enemies then how could you possibly give incentives for constantly losing?
This seems like terrible game design.
Yeah cuz as we all know zombie survival mode in CoD was sooooo unpopular.....and you know Glaga. (and every other arcade game ever made ever)
And yeah sure no one would want to suicide bomb LOIs or EON uncontested districts....who could possibly want to do that? |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:40:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:hooc order wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Loki Keller wrote:How would it be PvE if players were controlling the enemies? Because he likes shooting his mouth off so fast that he speaks before he thinks, and it is amusing. I mean, this is coming from a guy who thinks a bunch of turrets will be "fun" PvE, and thinks "new models" are just really easy and quick stuff. The models already exist...i have seen the footage. Also shooting turrets would be more fun then the current changes to PC coming in two days....also CCP seems to think it is fun...why have event where you are supposed to destroy 100 of them if they thought it wasn't fun? A post shopped high poly render in C4D is not equal to an animated, optimized and retextured ingame model. And i have no clue what "asynchronous" in your earlier comment could possibly mean in this context.
You are wrong about the models....CCP is incompetent i agree it would take them a decade to do it....but that is sort of the point of the post. Any half decent game maker with similar resources could kludge this together in a couple of months
Asynchronous would be like spys vs mercs in that splinter cell game. I think Crysis 3 has something similar. |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:41:00 -
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How's your game coming along? |
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hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
531
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:48:00 -
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Buddha Brown wrote:How's your game coming along?
If i had the only free to play FPS on the PS3 and given free advertizing on its store front for 6 months I think i could put a gob of manure in a bag and would be doing better then Dust is doing right now. |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:49:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Buddha Brown wrote:How's your game coming along? If i had the only free to play FPS on the PS3 and given free advertizing on its store front for 6 months I think i could put a gob of manure in a bag and would be doing better then Dust is doing right now.
Go for it, will wait for results |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:52:00 -
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Buddha Brown wrote:hooc order wrote:Buddha Brown wrote:How's your game coming along? If i had the only free to play FPS on the PS3 and given free advertizing on its store front for 6 months I think i could put a gob of manure in a bag and would be doing better then Dust is doing right now. Go for it, will wait for results
Don't have to.
Come November the PS4 will have Planet Side 2 free to play....We can compare results then.
CCP was given the golden Goose....then they starved the poor thing to death. |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:56:00 -
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Then please shut the **** up until then |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:00:00 -
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Buddha Brown wrote:Then please shut the **** up until then
What is the matter brown? Did i poke fun at your most favorite game maker?
If you don't like criticism of CCP and Dust 514 then i suggest you shut up and stop reading the forums. It is not as if i am the only one doing it....and it is not as if that criticism is not justified. |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:13:00 -
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No, your thread is pointless and you people fill "General Discussion" with general ****.
Go complain somewhere else, don't you know there are already 100's of threads in existence just like all of the one's you have posted?
But here I am, posting in said pointless thread so I must not be any better than you |
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